sickness benefits bill down. you say, just saying, it sounds pretty vague. some would say you need a more targeted approach. >> i think waiting, this is only one part of our plan to tackle economic activity. we have to do more, we have to do more on mental health support. maybe job centers work. this is a long term problem. this is entirely the tour he is making. it needs a plan as we have. that tackles the fundamental causes that doesn't just tweak with elements like the fit note system which can provide people with more support. if i was the government i would say how could the fit note system support people back into work. where is the investment in the work and health professions. >> the number of fit notes is doubled in less than a decade. 11million a year. it is a huge rise. why is that happening? >> because there has been a long term rise for many many years under this government and people on long term sick.