because the normal time period for an appeal is he gets to ask the full d.c. circuit within 45 days, he can ask them to re-hear the case. then he can also try and seek -- that will go to the supreme court, that's another 90 days. the d.c. circuit has the power to shorten that up by basically saying, you know what, we are going to give you five days, then we are sending it back to judge chutkan. if you don't get a state from the supreme court, she goes forward. >> they bypass -- i know this is according to procedural, but can they bypass passes on bunk? >> essentially, de facto, can. three judges can just say there's no bunk, they don't have the power. but they can say you have five days -- in five days, we rule as the panel that this goes back to judge chutkan. at that point, there has to be some sort of stay. so donald trump can try and get it from the ambiance, he can