that everybody is going to, basically seat to the idea that russia's taking over this part of the country? >> i really hope not because we see this all before. in 2008, russia invaded invaded unoccupied chunks of the republic of georgia. and in 2014 we saw russia occupied crimea, and take that peninsula. now we're seeing when we come to eastern ukraine, declare the independence of these regions and potentially they may annex them as well. so, it's anybody's guess what russia is going to do five years from. now if there's not a strong forceful reaction that actually does serious damage, that deters future action from russia, we should just expect this whole place to replay itself down the line. >> it's proving to be a winning strategy, being able to do this with impunity. i wonder for the punitive part of this. sanctions, the white house has talked about this a second ago.
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