on this show, this is all part of a greater effort to keep trump in power against the will of the american people. the -- would provide their own slate of pro trump electors, which would give mike pence -- and hand victory back to donald trump on january 6th. that was the plan. the memo the times obtained which was -- called on the fake electors to essentially participate in this sham process, where they pretend trump won anyway. quote, it may seem odd that the electors pledged to trump and pence -- even if, at that juncture, the trump pence ticket is behind, invoke -- certificate of election -- however, a fair reading of the federal statute suggests that is a reasonable course of action. -- one of the reporters that broke this story joins me now. luke, first of all, who wrote this memo, where did they write it and what was the context for them writing it? >> so, this memo arises out of two lawyers and wisconsin who