is not to play into it by giving the republican side more fodder that can then play down to voters. i think the "new york post" effect is the perfect aspect of this. i think this is why eric adams did so well. what are people who are not maga people but conservatively oriented people reading the "new york post," what is their perception of what is happening? part of their perception is the narrative in the "post," part of the perception they're seeing in their community. eric i think spoke to that perception in a real way that paid off for him well in the mayorship. that doesn't mean you can't be for criminal justice reform and all this other stuff, but it means you have to acknowledge that as part of the political reality. >> to the sort of epistemic question here -- pushing this longer and i'll go to break, control room -- donna, as a democratic representative yourself, democratic politics, this point about perception and reality, before policy, before