representatives to run the government. everything those wrong people do with the heavily democratic areas are is illegitimate by default and definition and so because they won, they, by definition, stole the election from donald trump. jena griswald is secretary of state of the state of colorado. her job was to oversee the 2020 presidential election and she's been sounding the alarm about future elections and she's also the chair of the democratic associations of the secretaries of state and she joins me now. i want to first get your reaction to a member of the united states senate using the phrase how to steal an election in regards to what was essentially a voter turnout operation of voter education operation, an attempt to get absentee ballots in the hands of people that need it. what does it do if a democracy if someone that powerful and prominent is calling that