were responsible for the demonstration, you know, democrats objected to the election in 2016, we were doing something similar but we had nothing to do with the violence. in the case of dustin and jen they point a lot of the blame at ali. ali points the blame at other people. so there's a lot of infighting going on here. i will say that one thing dustin and jen told me is that the initial plan was for everyone to remain on the ellipse while, you know, evidence was presented of alleged voter fraud. we know that's baseless, but this was the plan. they claim it was trump himself who changed that plan by, you know, making the call to march to the capitol in the final 120 words of his speech. >> we all saw it on tv. "now we're going to go down together," he told them. hunter walker, thank you very much. i should tell you you tomorrow night dustin stockton and jennifer lawrence will join me here on "all in." i'll have lots more questions. i'm sure you do too. be sure to tune in. still to come, dnld trump's long-time accountant reportedly testifies before a new york grand jury. the latest on that investigation. plus what to make of the federal judge dismissing trump's bid to