so long to greenlight sending those troops over. now to be clear, the pentagon is defending these two generals. gave us a statement saying that piatt and flynn were honest when they spoke to the committee. these are two diverging narratives and it doesn't seem possible for both of them to be true. the fact that there is this new emerging narrative coming out right now about why it took so long, is a really significant development. >> we should just be clear, this document is scorching. he says that the ig report, it is a revisionist tract worthy of the best stalinist or north korea propaganda-ness. says these men are liars. unmitigated lying, that flynn committed perjury. the big issue that strikes me here is that these both men are on the record and i believe under oath saying, we didn't slow walk this. because a concern about optics. we weren't worried about how it would look at the national guard was called up. that wasn't the issue. what you have for matthews is he is saying that is not true. that's precisely, at least in