mcdougal is the kind of lawyer who would potentially be a fact witness for this committee because he was connected to that effort. the lawsuit that he signed onto contains really whacky stuff about hugo chavez and dominion machines. that's the person that went into this deposition with jeffrey clark to advise him on how to handle it and that's part of the reason i think investigators have signaled they're very unhappy with the way this afternoon went. >> so that's the way that jeffrey clark shows respect for congress, he takes a sidney powell associate with him to congress. what are democrats going to do about this? what is bennie thompson, the committee chair going to do? they talk a good game, but will there be any action against these defiant trumpists? >> the simplest step is vote in the committee and vote on the house floor to hold him in