deputy campaign manager rick gates who told a very different story than the one trump told in his written testimony. joining me now is dan freedman who was covering stone's trial and was in the courtroom today. his news piece was headlined stone trial reveals trump likely lied to mueller. it was sort of the big jaw drop moment. what happened? he was of course a senior advisor to the trump campaign, a senior aide. he said on july 31st he was in a car with trump and heard trump on the phone and when trump got off that phone call he had wikileaks which had just released a bunch of national e-mails trump told him there'd be more information. of course that means trump was talking to stone about wikileaks and what e-mails wikileaks would be releasing.