have to know who is buying the drinks in ukraine and i'm not sure rudy giuliani did. >> the picture that emerges is rudy giuliani with a mission. we know what the mission is, right? >> right. >> to go get dirt on hunter -- from the bidens from the ukrainian government and look into the origin of the mueller probe. meeting with with with all sorts of people, advertising to them that the way that you can get close to the president of the united states is if you supply that to him. >> exactly. >> compromise. >> right. and that's just -- when you think about the legal peril he's in there, it's not that that itself is illegal. it's just that it seems to me you put yourself into some very dangerous, gray areas. >> of course you do. then you have mutt and jeff that were arrested the other day. one of them got $1 million from some russian we don't know about. >> not named in the indictment. >> but what does that have to do with vladimir putin and what's putin doing in the 2020 election? this raises really serious questions.