administration in this country based on the tennessee valley authority and others and basically you propose essentially a federal takeover of the whole thing, that essentially a tennessee valley authority extension for the whole country, am i understanding that correctly. >> you're in the ballpark, that's right. the tva has tonedone a lot of g work. it produces electricity from hydro power and other sources. we need to have an aggressive federal government saying we are going to produce a massive amount of electricity from solar and from wind and from other sustainable energies, and we will sell it out, and by the way, we're going to make money doing that. but you can't nibble around the edges anymore. we need to transform our energy system. that means a massive increase in sustainable energy. >> so i think people that watch the program know that i am not a deficit hawk. you know, america's a very wealthy country. it can afford a lot of big investments, but this is really large.