people from all walks of life and different experiences to back you? >> that is spot on, chris, and, quite frankly, the most important thing. that's why i say time and again if you can't compete for the votes of minorities, which sanders struggled with against hillary, you can't be the democratic nominee. but this is a good thing for the native american community that we have candidates going there and talking about their issues. it's a good thing that candidates are competing for the hispanic and african-american vote in ways that they haven't before. i've never heard a democrat talk about systemic racism before. >> yeah. >> these are good things that are happening and these candidates are in this space and competing for these votes. speaks well about how strategic it is for them to win the primary. they can't win the general election, they can't rebuild the obama coalition without doing it. >> all right. thank you both very much for being with me. still ahead, the conservative backlash to the 1619 project. plus some news about this program we're pretty excited about. then there is probably the