Republican lawmakers now take their own legislative agenda straight from the conservative media talking point of the day. Its a legislative perfected during the shutdown. When republicans voted based bose nothing could be a more clear example of how the modern gop works. In the past, lawmakers came up with policy and then tried to sell the policy in the media, but now world saw been completely reversed. Republican lawmakers now take their own medicine and agenda street from the media talking point of the day. Its a legislative message perfected during the shutdown. When republicans voted based solely on whatever was on fox the previous day. Remember, it was the right wing media that flogged the scandal. According to the daily caller, they say this is the first time in history that things have been totally off limits to visitors during shutdown. Then House Republicans quickly wrote a bill. Put up barricades to keep them away from their greater accomplishments is an absolute sin. How to use Cancer Patients to bash democrats. Why would we want to help one kid with cancer . Do i even have to begin to answer that . And like clock work how do you know the Republican Party is acting in bad faith . Because if it was the position of the Republican Party that memorials should be open and cancer trials should be funded, they shouldnt have shut down the government in the first place and if theys now their position that people shouldnt have their Health Insurance plans cancelled, well then, theyre a little late to the party. This is lee ioner, if they werent able to weed you out in the application process, and somehow ended up paying for the operation, they send in lee, their hit man. His job is to get the companys money back any way he can. All he has to do is find one slipup on your application or preexisting condition you didnt know you had. Were going to go of this like its a murder case. And i mean the whole unit dedicated to going through your Health History for the last five years, looking for anything that would indicate that you concealed something, you misrepresented something. So that they can cancel the policy. When robin baiten isnt selling antiques, shes fighting a battle on two fronts, one against breast cancer, and the other against her insurance company, just three days before she was scheduled to undergo a double mastectomy last year, she got this letter from Blue Cross Blue Shield of texas. Im sure that robin would have loved your keep that you are health plan act in 2009, but alas, republicans werent offering it back then. Joining me now is norm ormstein. It has always been the case that legislators try to creates votes on issues, particularly for the opposing party that are going to be uncomfortable. But the entirety of the letting tiff agenda particularly right now is simply legislating via press release. Absolutely, what was also the case, chris, is, before you put a bill out there, you would at least hold a couple of hearings on it to see what the consequences, intended and unintended, might be. But this is clearly a press release bill, and if you want to look at whether its a good thing or a bad thing, all you need to know is the club endorsed it. This is not an attempt to find a constructive way to make sure that people can keep their Health Insurance and that we arent going to screw up the entire insurance process by raising rates on folks along the way. That is just a talking point. One of the dangers of this kind of legislating is that sometimes these things actually become law, one of the best examples of this is the Chuck Grassley amendment, grassley came up with an idea, it was going to be a move in which members of congress and their staffs would have to go into exchanges, and he thought, aha, theyll vote against it. And members of congress said, okay, fine well go on the exchanges. And now congress has the status that was totally different than any employer in the country. And there were real consequences. There are consequences to legislating based on what you think will score you a debate point. And in this case, what fred upton has done with this bill, is not to order that Insurance Companies reinstate all of these plans, but to give them the option of doing it. It makes it even worse, because the plans that the insurers will bring back is the ones insuring the healthiest people and leave the others who will going to go on the exchanges which is going to raise the costs of the exchanges, just like the grassley amendment, youll have a number of democrats who are hearing from constituents and this is something that the president should not have said what he said repeatedly, its blowing up in his face, its going to pass the house and its going to be a question of whether harry reid can keep something that is not a good idea right now from being enacted into law. We got word that senator andrews is going one step farther, actually mandate that Insurance Companies cant cancel plans. Is other thing about this that i think is key, and norm, i want to have you on to talk about this from a historical perspective. I dont think appreciate the difference between the Gingrich Congress and the boehner congress. The Gingrich Congress, say what you will about it, it had a proactive legislative agenda. They actually passed a bunch of stuff that clinton signed. This congress is barely working. Theyre barely coming to work, and when they are, there is nothing that john boehner is actually trying to pass. All hes trying to do is stop stuff from passing. And if you look at the important policy issues and areas out there that need resolution, and the fact that the house has scheduled 13 more days and not full days for the rest of the year, and its basically thrown it in, were going to do nothing else except find a way to keep the government operating. That tells you as well that we have a great difference here. The house has scheduled 13 days . For the rest of the year. They have pretty much said, were done, were not going to do anything else for the rest of the year. It is november 12th, well be working far, far more than 13 days, as will the vast majority of hard working americans across this great land. And theyll be working at least eight hours a day and thats not what were going to see with congress in session. This is just not a good thing. But of course if you look at all the votes we have seen in the house on the Affordable Care act, this is actually the first time you have seen something thats trying to amend it and not just to end it. But its an amend in order to end it. For john boehner, half of life is making sure you dont show up. Joining me now, obick roy, author of, quote, how medicaid fails the poor. I wanted to have you on because you wrote a piece for the Huffington Post about debate after the debate were having about plan cancellations, and you said theres a lot les here than it appears. What do you mean by that . You try to put some meaning into this, okay, president obama said you can keep your plan. What do you think he meant . Did he mean that insurers could not drop plans . I dont think people could have thought that, because it makes no sense. He also said you could keep your doctor, does that mean hes going to keep doctors from retiring or dying . Presumably what he meant that the Affordable Care act would not directly cancel plans that were in effect. And it doesnt cancel plans that are in effect. It grandfathers all the plans that were in effect at the time the bill was passed. A lot of people running around, saying oh, my god, plans are being cancelled. Okay, well, plans that were put in place after the aca was passed, the fact checker pointed out. The vast majority of these plans were just issued in the last year. So didnt the Insurance Companies tell them when they i just didnt see much of a story here. That question strikes me as a pretty fair one. Youre humana, youre selling a policy to someone in early 2013, you know theres a whole regulatory frame work working its way through, and you have informed people talking to the people in hhs about what those plans are going to be. If you have a plan that might not meet the obama care requirements, shouldnt you have said, hey, just so you know, this may not be around next year . I think there was Awareness Among everyone who follow this is very closely, what was going to happen in 2014. But i think the afternoon person took president obamas promise to mean a plan that was in effect for those regulations kicked in on january 1, 2014, that i would be able to keep my plan, and my Physician Network as is. That is an answer to a different question. I think youre right about why people are angry, the question is, should the insurer, whos selling you a plan, they know the provision of which is contingent upon a regulatory process, they are following very closely, shouldnt they tell you, hey, buddy check it out, were going to sell you this, but were going to be there. We should mandate that every american read my blog. I think the more important thing is, look, i think if peoples plans were being cancelled and they were being replaced by aca plans that were truly better and truly more affordable, i think this wouldnt be the issue. For a lot of the people, the middle class and the upper middle class people who are going to have higher premiums, they didnt think they were free loading on the old system. They didnt think they were getting a free ride, they thought their Health Insurance were getting pretty expensive. And we should be clear, we just dont know what the numbers are on that. But your point, dean, theres no way the president could have promised you could keep your doctor. But any Health Reform worthy of the name that would have kept every one of the Health Insurance plans existing in american when it was passed stay in effect . You literally have to have president obama nationalize the insurance industry. A and i know a lot of republicans have accused him of that, but the reality is, hes not done that. So what that means is, Insurance Companies drop plans, we have had our plans dropped, nothing to do with obama care, this happened years ago, before it was even legislation. Insurance companies changed plans all the time. I dont know what someone could have thought if president obama was guaranteeing them their plan would stay in effect in perpetuity. He couldnt do that unless he took over the market. One point ill make in the president s defense is this, any conservative reform of the Health Care System would also result in changes in the Health Insurance market. And republicans in being so vigorous in defending the status quo preaca, that if they one of the biggest ones, white and bennett that got a tremendous amount of traction in the right wonk circles, which i think is about four people, that would have gotten rid of the deferred tax treatment that employer based health care has right now. That would be a huge change. You want to see some nightly news packages about that happening, you would see them, right . The cadillac tax in the aca does that, so any conservative forum that happenings now postaca probably wouldnt be as disruptive on that specific point. But it would be disruptive in a lot of other areas. Thank you both. Coming up, we all went to our own cars and got out our selfdefense tools or firearms or whatever you want to call them. 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Elizabeth warren is by no means what distinguishes her at this moment, is she has gone on this remarkable journey from being an outsider, to a yoouls senator who still talks like someone on the outside. She is willing to state the obvious truth that all of us know, but you almost never hear from the people in positions of power, that the system is rigged. Today, the four biggest banks are 30 larger than they were just five years ago. And five largest banks hold more than half of all the total bank assets in the country. Who would have thought five years after the crisis that we witnessed firsthand, the dangers of an overly concentrated financial system, that the too big to fail problem would only have gotten worse. That was warren giving a major speech today. The continues battle over wall street regulation is the policy area i think where the division between the establishment wing of the party and the raw anger of the liberal grass roots is at its most intense. There are people inside the Democratic Party, many of them in power who think the system can be managed. And there are people inside the Democratic Party who know that it is broken in some fundamental way. Elizabeth warren is one of those people. And the biggest question that faces her party is whether to adopt warrens populous message as a governing philosophy, or perhaps more acutely. Alexis, this is my feeling about Elizabeth Warren. You Start Talking about Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton in 2016. That doesnt interest me that much. If you look through the polling, issue after issue, democrats on Economic Issues of inequality, power of finance, percentage of democrats dissatisfied with the size and inflation of the the major corporations. You look through your issue of the day and you think, oh, financial reform. This is going to be a little bit when it comes to financial Health Reform. We should note that there are other senators that are very out front on this issue. The other big shipping that is fascinating about the war in speech and as far as a figure is that if you produce cable news and if you look through the issues and you think, financial firm, okay, this will be in little bit of a tough haul. Were going to push this rock uphill. And heres warren whos going out and getting two million youtube views in a speech on financial reform. Shes tapping into the fact that no one has really spoken to the resentment and frustration that americans have of what happened five years ago. They have both have lots of views on youtube for their comments. They get lots of small donations to finance their campaign so theres a real gap here. And there is an open for republicans and some republicans are starting to take that seriously. You have people like david vitter who i disagree with vehemently on most issues, but he has worked with sherry brown on some very important pro reform things like raising capital requirements, which is basically saying that things cant operate on so much borrowed money. In the world of regulatory news, today was actually a big, important day, because the president named a new chair for the commodities trading commission, which is just a jumble of letters, but basically is the relatively small entities that stands between us and the precipice, i mean really, if theres one regulator whos going to keep us from plunging into something as horrifying, destructive and terrible as what we went through, this is that body. Thats right and i think we have a real danger here, because we have gary ginsler and i like to liken him as the superman of the financial reform. 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Girl, please, i bet he has relative who could use some of that scholarship money. Its hard to say how much wilsons little show in racial deception helped him in last weeks election, but his opponent is black, and wilson managed to eke out a victory by only 26 votes in a race with more than 11,000 cast. One of our chief problems with the way we think and talk about race is accepting its boundaries, so somewhere beneath the downright ugliness dispensed by dave wilson, theres a colonel of truth that the racial lines arent as hard and fast. Take a 62yearold white supremesist. Yesterday cobb agreed to undergo a dna test on daytime tv. Craig polk has undergone dna testing to determine genetic ancestry, 86 european, and just give it to him. 14 sub saharan african. Wait a minute, hold on. Thats called statistical noise. You have a little black in you. That right there, what you saw, thats the confounding truth about race. 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It was very unsettling, it was very disturbing and at the beginning, they just congregated and just kind of stood afternoon and about 30 minutes into it, thats when they all strapped on their weapons. They strapped on rifles and i cant speak to exactly what kind they were, but it was various types of rifles and every single adult that was out there was armed. The armed protest was staged by a gun activist group. They came armed with hunting rifles, ar15s and ak47s. Dozens of men, women and children turned out to show those gun moms whats what. All of this is legal in texas where youre allowed to open carry guns. But open carry texas insists that wasnt their goal. This was merely a Family Friendly photoop. Today we spoke with one of the groups organizers by phone. I got word where it was and i was like, hey, lets go peacefully assemble in that area. We went to our cars and got out our selfdefense tools or whatever you want to call them. So we strapped on and a couple of people wanted to take pictures of us right away. The two groups clashed since mothers demand action saturdays standoff played out on social media. The moms demand action Facebook Page showing their perspective of the armed stake out at the blue mesa grill. By stander photos make this a as one dallas news columnist puts it, no matter the camera angle, theres just not a flattering way to see this. At no point in time did i go out there when they were there with their guns. I was too afraid to do that. The idea of that was terrifying to me. We noticed that they started marching towards the football stadium and then we took advantage of the fact that they were gone to leave. No shots were fired, no laws were broken. The tactics used by open carry groups in texas, brandishing weapons at people who disagree with them politically is inspiring intense backlash. Last month there was an open carry demonstration in dallass deally plaza. 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After the sandy hook shooting in december, i was looking for a mothers against drunk it was amazing how much it grew so quickly. Here we are, just a year later, we have over 100,000 members, we have a chapter in every single state and we are a powerful force to be reckoned with, and we are attacking this at all levels. What you saw in dallas is really a microchasm of what we face all over the country all the time. Its very rare that we dont have a rally and that we are surrounded by armed, open carry activists. And you know, i would disagree with cory watkins, i dont think an Armed Society is a polite society, i think its a dangerous situation. There are 100,000 victims of gun violence every year, and now that moms are involved, we are going to fix this problem in america. Leah, if you look at the traction on this issue, and i know you worked on this for some time, there was a kind of High Water Mark in the 90s. With clinton you had assault weapon plans. The democratic candidate was leading with ads just about gun safety and winning in suburban chicago districts for instance. And some of it dropped off the table. Was there a period where it was like hard to raise money, it was hard to get volunteers, it was hard to get speakers at conferences . George w. Bush had the nra working out of his office when he was selected by the Supreme Court back in 2000. And a lot of my friends were in d. C. With gun safety groups, and they found it very disspiriting, it was hard to get anything done with a republican president and the republican governor, the movement hadnt really developed the way it probably should have and it was going to emulate mothers against drunk driving. So we went awol, we really did as a movement. If you look at the map in 1981, none of the states had stand your group laws. Today, every single state has a concealed carry law. So the battlegrounds is the state. Theres a Grass Roots Movement growing and growing. I think the more energized we become. Theres two factors here, as someone whos covered the e horror of the tragedies we have seen, over and over and over. And theres also the fact that, in some ways the people on the other side of this issue have to keep winning things, the more they win, the more extreme they get, because theres nothing else to win, but the most maximalist things. The extremism that is burgeons on the right now, its not just in the tea party, its certainly been in the gun movement for a long time, the Gun Rights Movement as they call themselves. Whats interesting to me is if you look back at the history of the 94 law, the reason that the clintons succeeded in getting that law passed, broad as it was, was that he managed to put himself on the site of law enforcement, against the extremism of the gun laws. He managed to get cops around him as a symbol of a safe society, order, all these themes that the right and conservatives had appropriated for so long. Now these gun rights guys are the symbol of disorder. They are attacking cops. They are going up to the capitol and getting in the face of the state police, that is disorder. And that ought to be a theme thats emphasized. Sandy hook was this kind of breaking point, the president made a speech, there was a push at the national level, which we havent seen in years and then it failed. Just as if you tried to roll the rock down the hill, it crushed him, okay, we go back to our other issues. The legislators that we had the day after sandy hook, were the same legislators we had the day before. And while we wish this tragedy would have changed their hearts and minds, it clearly didnt. So were going to have to wait until the midterms and the elections and beyond to get the right congressmen placed to do the right thing. But in the meantime, this is about grassroots, this is about going after municipalities and states and making sure they do the right thing. We have had huge wins in colorado, connecticut, delaware, maryland, new york. We had smaller wins in california and energy new jersey. We were able to block bad legislation in the state of missouri. We are winning this, we are rolling it back. I think the biggest difference is more people are dieing from guns because theyre more pervasive and the gun lobby has become more extreme. I think most americans are sensible and absolutely horrified by the actions of these thugs in dallas. Theres no other words for them. He doesnt believe that you need to have a rifle with 30 rounds to go hunting