felt with him sitting there? >> i think so. it made the whole thing feel more real. >> jordan now, and a state attorney from florida and near court reporter with the washington post. i welcome you both. dave, what is your sense of the fallout for not just prospective jurors who have brief experiences in the courtroom with trump, but also the jurors who are now going to come face-to-face with him over the next six weeks or so? >> it is imposing for these jurors but that's the beauty of our system. ordinary americans, a jury of his peers that get to decide his fate and he can complain all he wants outside to sycophants, the right-wing media, has audiences but inside the courtroom, the judge is in charge and the jury makes the final decision. i think it's an impressive feat