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that you have to remember is that these are what are called overt actions in favor, that helped push forward the one rico charge that all 19 defendants are facing. their actions to help perpetrate the criminal conspiracy to overturn the election. so while trump may say they were perfect, these were all calls pushing people and state legislators mostly to overturn the results of the election in their state. and if not state legislators, and state officials like brian kemp and raffensperger, they calls that were specifically about, hey, you need to throw in the results of this election and say that trump was the winner. so they're focusing on these calls because -- they were calls that had a specific ask about the results of the election. and they kept pushing the same points throughout the layers of this scheme. when it did not work to go directly to the state legislatures, they went to the

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