is more of an existential battle of the russian people, the russian state. he's the defender and proponent of that country. we also have a mismatch of that statement from the president which i don't disagree with by the way. a mismatch of that and our policy. we don't want to escalate and feed the narrative of the u.s. and russia. we certainly haven't acted like we are doing everything to defeat the russians on the battlefield. the whole notion of figuring out how to get the migs into their hands. this is a battle of freedom and autocracy and putin can't have power in moscow. there's a mismatch between what the president is saying and feeling, which is reasonable, and what we're actually doing and what our policy is. >> i have to agree. that's been something that's been a head scratcher for people