global consumption of president biden's speech, i think you also want to make sure that your core message isn't altered by something that happened during the day because that's the whole point here. >> absolutely. >> we have a strategy we're going to carry out no matter what happens. >> one more question, i know i have to let you go, nato has made clear ukraine is going to decide for itself what it is willing to agree to in negotiations to try to get this conflict over and done with. should, though, nato be more involved in trying to mediate? could nato have influence in any sort of a deal between russia and ukraine? >> well, first of all, i think the basic principle that the ukrainians decide what they're willing to accept and not accept has to be the principle that everybody abides by. i think and the reality is nato is inevitably involved in these negotiations. one of the things that's clearly on the table is a statement from the ukrainians that they are not going to intend to join nato, they're going to be neutral in their status. you have nato members who are