they have like no food, no water, no electricity, just in mariupol, in besieged mariupol, 2,187 civilian people were killed since the beginning of the occupation. and around hundreds bombed were exploded just in mariupol. so we urgently need to evacuate people. >> so those are extraordinary numbers here, and i will say that i don't know that nbc news has confirmed them, but i appreciate your sharing your perspective there. let me ask about how long you had before you left kyiv? how close were you to the start of the russian incursion? and what made you say, i have to go right now? >> can you explain the question? >> so how long did it take you to decide? was it something you'd been thinking about? you were preparing for a long time. or was there something that you said, i need to leave right now?