here's a question, based on how things can work together, one thing causes the next, do you think the situation with brittney griner may have prompted the state department to invoke the warning saying to americans, get out of russia now? >> it very well may have. but remember, the embassy is quite decimated, there's been a number of tit for tat expulsions, an ambassador habd kicked ou embassy is in crisis. this might have been the last straw. it's important to publicize the case. that's the best thing that keeps her safe because russians have a tendency to not treat people well. >> if the embassy has been decimated and she is in custody, to whom does she turn for help under these circumstances, john. who can she go to? who can represent her?