some outlets portraying john durham motions as proof that the hillary clinton campaign paid to spri on the trump camp. he rejects that he fought to politicize the case. he writes, if third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the government's motion. that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the government's inclusion of this movement. hayes brown joins us. as i welcome you, my friend, how significant is it you have durham himself now distancing from the way the conservatives are portraying his filing? >> i think it's pretty important. this whole thing goes to a case against an -- an indictment named michael flesman with the hillary campaign, not directly for. and it looks like he freelanced