ukraine to evacuate them, that they will be on their own. and to that effect, today, the u.s. embassy announcing that as of tomorrow, it is suspending all consular services at the embassy here in kyiv, and the first major airliner, dutch airline klm, has suspended its flights to the capital as well. >> okay, erin mclaughlin, thank you for the latest from kyiv. joining me right now, barry mccaffrey, retired four-star u.s. army general, former gulf war division commander, former member of the national security council and currently our esteemed msnbc military analyst. general, thank you, my friend, for joining us. so, you have certainly been in tense situations before. how do you expect this phone call played out between presidents biden and putin? >> well, probably very badly. look, what's going on, i've never seen anything like it. since 1850, russian military operations are always masked in