they've subpoenaed, those two subpoenas actually generated more quick and noisy backlash than i've seen in the case of a lot of the subpoenas that were issued. caroline wren, a fund-raiser who helped raise the money to put on the ellipse rally almost immediately went on the record and said those two don junior advisors were not involved in facilitating the rally that preceded the attack on the capitol. now, the select committee has said they believe those two advisors might have knowledge or information regarding possibly the lead-up to the rally, the planning of the rally, and in one case, possible honorariums or payments who spoke at that ellipse rally. the committee obviously has a lot of interesting questions to ask but it will be interesting to keep an eye as well on, you know, what exactly these two advisor do or don't know. >> okay. i always spend a lot of time every week reading your articles, betsy. thank you for coming on and talking with us. they're right here. well, the way forward after president biden's voting rights