i got my first rifle at maybe 6 or 7. my grandfather taught my brother and myself how to shoot. my sisters were quickly behind us. that's sort of a normal tradition of anyone who grew up in the south to be quite honest. were we taking pictures and putting them on postcards, no we were not. you know and the viewers know we're all living in this viral shock moment. everyone's trying to get more tweets, more re-tweets, everyone wants to be in the news headlines. that's really what this was, members of congress wanting to get their supporters riled up, is and quite honestly have us talking about it. i do think as a matter of firearm tradition and firearm safety starting kids out responsibly while younger is important, particularly if you have firearms in the home. and i don't think we want reckless parents similar to what we saw in michigan to the point that you raise, but time and -- the timing is not good. >> okay, thank you so much. good to see you. it is a devastating region in the wake of a series of