stolen, we need to do something about it right then and people gave money them and trump kept it. hasn't spent the money fighting the 2020 election. he hasn't spent the money for candidates in 2021. he mostly kept it and spent .at his own property. the contrast between the way, the languid way he used the money, self-enriching way he used the money and the way he raised the money is striking. >> the way he has transformed the money into private revenue for his businesses, from office space at trump tower to use of his jet to even billing for trump water, so i don't think, correct me if i'm wrong, you are an attorney, but i am sure you have interviewed many as part of your reporting here. why is he able to use these political donations even though he's not currently running? >> well, it is a good question because i thought, you know, not knowing much about the political contribution system, i thought, well, this can't be possible, but it is. the kind of pac that he is using, this sort of leadership