rising wages. joining us is josh green, authfer of the new book out today titled "the rebels," which chronicles how left wing economic populism and people like warren sanders and aoc have played a faithful role and will continue to in the upcoming presidential election. i want to hear from the man who's been on the ground in steel towns in pennsylvania. how the very voters joe biden needs to make sure are in his corner. >> i think the answer is in my travels they don't quite yet. but the story of the book is how these three characters gave rise to this brand of left wing populism and the party took the financial crisis of 2008 and the huge backlash that gave us donald trump for democrats to kind of wake up and say, you know, i think we need a more populus brand of politics. even though neither warren or sanders wound up in the white