would never betray me kind of statement? >> there's different statements that have come out, that trump has put out since leaving office. they really just sort of have nothing to do with the underlying issue. like that quote doesn't really speak to anything in the story. if you read the story and you read what dan scavino said regardless of what the law is and what the evidence may be, it's just not a pretty portrait of what goes on. it's actually pretty ugly. and if you were a juror and you heard this account for someone who is so close to trump, who's not really averse to trump, so it's not like you're bringing in someone who trump has broken with let's say bill barr or john kelly, this is someone who's still in trump's orbit like we see in that statement. so it would be interesting to me to see at a trial what would the jury see if dan scavino was the one saying, yes, donald trump