lawyer at the doj, jeffrey clark -- they tried to get a federal court to stop d. a. fani willis from arresting them this week. but tonight, a judge denied those requests and, unless an appeals court weighs in, mark meadows and jeffrey clark are set to be arrested in fulton county. keep your eyes out for the mugshots. joining me now are mimi rocah, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, now the district attorney for westchester county, and gwen keyes fleming, former district attorney for dekalb county. -- mimi and gwen, it's great to have you here. let me first get you thoughts on this late breaking news here, regarding the judge effectively giving meadows and clark the hand on their filing to delay this arrest. does that seem unusual to? and does that suggest anything about the broader case to have this moved into federal court? >> it doesn't seem unusual, and alex. in fact, it seems so normal that it seems almost like that's what is taking people by