a lot of people avoid this impolite conversation. there are a few places left where we can actually deliberate this universities are one of them. >> i think that what you are seeing, and, this is somewhat unprecedented, this degree of congressional pressure on universities to shut down certain viewpoints. i can't think of a president since the house un-american activities when you have college presidents being hauled up. >> asking specific names of people who are professors. >> specific names, specific ideologies, specific course offerings. this is a remarkable thing, even if you find some of these things that these professors, some of these professors have said to be a parent, do you really want republicans in congress to be deciding where the line is ? >> that is the issue. it is the same thing with my book club. there are books that are and that may not be to your taste. they might actually be a point but the issue is whether or not the state should have a role in making these determinations and then, secondarily, probably more importantly, given the