minouche shafik emerged from the for our growing largely unscathed. all that's been damaged is columbia's guarantee of academic freedom." joining me now is michelle goldberg, "the new york times" opinion columnist. good to have you here. this is a tough conversation because the stuff that we are talking about , the things that offend people in this conversation are offensive. >> i think it is tough for two reasons. there has been genuine incidents of both anti-semitism and callous celebration of terrorism at columbia, as as many other universities, and you also have a left that has created, in some sense, if not created the situation for themselves, has encouraged a really narrow reading of free speech in recent years, has said, talked about emotional harm and emotional safety and that impact matters more than intent and it was always somewhat obvious that eventually the right was going to take that and run with it and that is what we have here. you have basically the right setting the right and also certain pro israel groups