Announcer coming up on 21st century, one mans courage changes the world. And from italy, despair and suffering migrant stories. Dale van boven it is inexplicable and indefensible for the united d nations not to react urgently to situations of gross violations of human rights. Man south america in the 1970s and early eieighties, hundreds of thousands of people were tortured, killed, and disappeared under military dictatorships. Van boven ouour primary duduty is towards the peoples in whose name the United Nations charter was written. Bertie ramamcharanhehe was by fr the greatest t human rights leader the e u. N. Has ever had. Van boven my name is dale van boven. I was the director of the United Nations for humaman righs fromom 1977 to 1982. Tom mccarthy there was a lot of presessure of all kinds from certain governments, hahaving ththeir secret service agentnts in the cocorridors looking after what t we were doing, followingg what the ngos were doing, threatening people, putting pressure on other govevernments. Latin america had strong dictatorships. Ngos couldnt mention government names in the commission for violations. Van boven it is inexplicable and indefensible for the United Nations notot to react urgently to situations of gross violations of human rights. Ramcharan it was entirely unheard of that a human rights director would take vigorous positions. Everything that a senior u. N. Official did was s closely monitored, and so it was his great t breakthrough that he decided to act,t, and in some instances to speak out publicly against gross violatioions of human rights. Van boven there is a tendency, at that timeme at least, that the u. N. Should rememain lowke. Ssome felt that i was too outspoken. Quiet diplomacy y is perhaps whwhat they ouought. Momore productive tthan to speak u up. I think this is very questionable, this position. Van boven when, for instance, the coup detat occurred in chil a specialal public procedure was created. Jose zalaquett the military felt that they had to give the impression right from day one that t they meant t business, thereforere they bombed the palace of governments. Heraldo munoz september 11, that was a dark day and a bit rainy. After that, i wouould say that the life of a a whole generation of chileaeans changed. [music plays] zalaquett the military authorities managed to take control of the whole of the country, putting in prison thousands of people. They even put them in the National Soccer stadium because there were not enough places in the prisons. [m[man speaking spanish on loudspeaker] van boven on the first day of our official visit, we had to pay a sortrt of courtesy vist to the head of state. Ththat was pininochet. He was sitting there all byby himself in a tower, in his office. The desk before him was clean. He accused the u. N. , the working group, of serving the communist purpoposes. This we ststngly refututed. It was argued that t s country was known for committing seriouviolatns of huma rights, and we wanted to investigate that on the spot. In fact, the general became very angry. Mccarthy the chile report may well have been the e first u. N. Report that showed how thehe military dictatorship can stroy thliving staards of pepele, and could s it whewe went ere. Noz thenternaonal comttee kno through the nvesestitions th were caied out by human rights missions from europe, dale van boven. We never thought that it would be the level of murder or torture or disappearance of exiles. It can happen anywhere. Mccarthy the next big cchallenge for us after chile were the disappearances, in particular in argentina, but in other countries, too. Mccarthy one o of the first things that theo o did was to open his officice and our office to victims and to their representatives. Meeting people o o have bee tortured is very different than reading reports sent in by nongovernmental organizations. Van boven the mothers, the m madres, the abuelas, they wewere very visiblble and well known, and as a groupup of committed women, i think, who were directly involved, that had a great impact on public opinion. Van boven disappeared children. The government claims that it wawaall a partrt of terrorism and terrist gan, and the question was put, e ththese litittle ildrenare they also terrororists . Alberto dalotto in the seventies, i was in exile in france after havingng left my country. I started to work in the struggle for human rights, and i hearard about whatat was takig place here i in geneva in thiss very sasame place, room 17 of the palais des nations. There was a person working here in this place, and it w was dale van boven. For the first time, an important person in the u. N. Appeared to say, listen, in argentina sosomething terribe is happening. We have to pay attentioion to that. In terms of what was the struggle to restore democracy and human rights in argentina, ththat was a very important poit in his dictatorship. Van boven efforts were made in thehe commissision on humanan rs in 191979 to establish a woworking group on disappeared personons, but this was bblocked by argentina and othehers. Now it was a year later that this initiative e was successfu, and so the e working groupp was established in 1980. Rather late, but better late than never. Mccarthy it happened in el salvador and guatemala, indonesia, in ththe philippipin. We covered 15 countries in our first r report. The next year, by 1981 and 1982, we could list many people whose lives s had been saved becauause we were able to get aa cable to the government telling them that we had information that this person has been kidnapped, and they needed to release himim. And that hadad worked and still works today for many, many people. Ramcharan he was by far the greatest human rights leader the u u. N. Has ever had. Thats what i would say. Van boven ive always felt that our primary duty is towards the peoples in whose name the United Nations charter was written. And i haveve maintained that whenever necessary, we must speak out on matters of principle regardless of whom we please or displease within or outside the organization. Mccarthy even today, governments make big efforts to stop the United Nations from investigating their human rights practices. And the question is if it didnt matter, why would they make such an investment . Van boven we do have to care for the dignity of people, and solidarity is an extremely important issue to mak e woworlworth h ving in. Ifif the averarage person only cares about t him or herself, then that is a world of mental poverty. We should try not to set our s standards on the basis of mental poverty, but on solidarity with fellow human beingsgs from far awayay or just close by. Leonard doyle you know, migration is the oldest adaptation strategy that man knnows. Reporter in europe, its the Biggest Movement of people since world war ii. Fleeing war, hardship, and perersecution, many end up in italian detention centers. Doyle you know, migration is thehe oldest adaptation strataty that man knows. If you think about it,t, how people spread d around t the wod rough migrgration, so were nott talking about somethingng thats just been invented in the last couplple of months or weeks now that were paying more atattention to it in the media. Doyle i mean, the italians, because they arere closest, if you will, to nonorth africa, they take an enormous number. Many of these migrants and refugees wish to go through italy very quickly and move on to sweden, where they may have family, or germany, where they knonow theres s a chance of a. Soso the italianans have beeeen exextraordinarily generous. Theyve funded the mare nostrum maritime rescue operation for two y years. Theyve saved h hundreds of thousandnds of lives, and they continue to do so. But ththeyre in a tough place, too, because like every country, they y have their own domestic politics, and theres a backlash against migrants. Migrants are not very favorably looked on. [women speaking foreign language] [shouting] [pounding] doyle although its not necessarily a pretty picture that you see when you get behind the walls of any judicial system, but i would suggest takeke the same view behind the wallsls of any other europeanan countrys judicial system and its not going to be much different. Doyle refugees are people who are entitled to asylum under the 1951 geneva convention, but outtside of thatat group, you he a huge number of Vulnerable People who dont necessarily neatly fit the category. Those could be unaccompanied minors, and there are tens of thousands of those whove moved across into europe. Victims of trafficking, sexual trarafficking. The biggest victims of trafficking are labor migrants, who are being abused. So what are they . Are they economic migrants or are they somehow fitting closer into the refugee category . Doyle the victims really are the people who are suffering. A lot of the result ofof that is that people have a dim view of mimigrants. Whereas the reality is that migrantsts enrich anand help socicieties flourish, diverifify societies, and without them, youre going to be stuck in a tough place. But the mood music certainly in europe isnt very favorable towards migrants at the moment. Narrator the u. N. Refugee agency,y, unhcr, calls for stabilization measures in europe, including strong support to countries hosting refugees and migrants, information campaigns on the dangers of the sea journey, and legal pathways to seek protection in europope. Announcer coming up on a future episode of 21st century. Announcer girls becoming mothers when theyre still children themselves. Announcer changing the momentum in the dominican republic, where almost a quarter of all mothers are teenagers. This is dw news live from berlin. A manhunt is going on in munich after a shooting rampage that has left at least six people dead, ma more are injured. This smartphone video is set to show the start of a rampage outside a mcdonalds restaurant, a gunman shoots at passerby and police say there is an acute sense of terror
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