A wall against trump, blocking the entrance to the Convention Center with a massive cloth banner painted like a wall. Were going to be walling off hate, xenophobia, and continue our pledge to take the committees from people in positions of power and do not look out for the benefit of all of us as a community. Today we are drawing a line in the sand. To start protecting their people because we as a Community Know the solutions. No one else is going to do it for us. This is a call to action and a message to trump and anyone who feels like using xenophobia and hate as a means of power, that is not the solution and we are going to fight. Amy meanwhile, at least 17 people were arrested during another demonstration outside the rnc after a protester attempted to burn an american flag. Burning american flags is legal under most circumstances. Police used horses to try to break up the protest. Another shocking video of Police Shooting an africanamerican man has emerged. Itit happened monday in north miami, florida. Man inshot an unanarmed the leg as he was attempting to help an autistic manan who had wandered away from a group home. Socialal worker Charles Kinsey s seen lying on the ground with his hands in the air when police shot him. Police h have said they were responding to a 911 call about a man with a gun. But in the cell phone video released yesterday, kinsey can be heard telling police all he has is a toy truck. A toy truck. I am a b behavioral therapist ta group home. Listen carefully. Amy the behavioral therapist kinsey can also be heard on the video trying to calm down the autitistic man, and said he was more worried about his patients safety than his own. The video does not shohow the moment the shots are fired, and kinsey said officers at the scene offered no explanation. Meanwhile, black lives matter activists launched protests a multiple cities wednesday, including in new york city, washington, d. C. , and detroit. In new york city, 10 people were arrested after activist locked themselves to each other using pvc pipe at the entrance of the patrolmans benevolent association. In detroit, six people arrested at a protest o outside a p polie precinct. It was remembering a sevenyearold girl who was killed in her own home in 2010 during a night raid by police that was being filmed by a reality tv show. In washington, d. C. , activist with black youth tragic 100 and black lives matter locked themselves. They were demanded Police Officer stop paying dues to the private union which they say defends officers accused of brutality. And the author of a bestseller book about his imprisonment at Guantanamo Bay may be free. Mohamedou ould slahi is a mauritanian citizen and the author of guantanamo diary. Slahi has been imprisoned at guantanamo for nearly 14 years without charge. The prisons review board has now declared he is no longer a continuing significant threat to the security of the United States. 77 prisoners remain at Guantanamo Bay nearly eight years after president t obama first moved to close the prison. And a correction on mondnday and tuesdays show, we inaccurately reported floor to congressman dennis ross is planning to skip the rnc, saying it is a good timeme to be fishing in mononta in f fact, he is notot attendine convention, but the quote is from montana senator steve daines who said what politico but ended up comiming to the r c on tuesday. And those are some of the headlines. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org breaking with convention war, peace and the presidency. We are broadcasting inside and out from the streets to the Convention Floor. I am amy goodman. Indiana governor mike pence has accepted the republican nomination for Vice President. But pences speech on wednesday night was largely overshadowed by senator ted cruz, who refused to endorse donald trump in a stunning 21minute primetime address. Cruz mentioned his former challenger by name only once. Cox i want to congratulate donald trump winning the nomination last night. Amy texas senator ted cruz would on to outline his vision for the Republican Party. While he never directly criticized trump, by the end of the speech, he was repeatedly interrupted by boos and delegates chanting, we want trump. If you love our country and love your children as much as i know that you do, stand and speak and vote your conscience. Vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to o the constitution. Amy near the end of the speech, donald trump appeared at the back of the Convention Hall in a move to draw attention away from cruzs speech. Cruz left the podium to a chorus of boos. His wife had to be escorted off the floor. Some republican delegates described cruz as a traitor to the party, while others praised him for refusing to back trump. This all occurred on a night when governor pence was supposed to be the center of attention as the indiana governor accepted the partys nomination to be Vice President. We have a choice to make. This is another time for choosing. If you want a president who will protect this nation, confront radical islamic terrorism and rid the world of isis come if you want a president who will restore law and order to this country and give Law Enforcement the support and resources they deserve, if you want a president who will cut taxes, grow our economy, and squeeze every nickel out of the federal bureaucracy if you want a president who will build strong borders and enforce our laws, and if you want a president who will of the end of the status quo in washington, d. C. Justices to the Supreme Court who will uphold the constitution [cheers] we have but one choice and that man is ready. This team is ready. Our party is ready and when we elect donald trump the 45th president of the United States together, we will make America Great again. Amy governor pence speaking wednesday night after accepting the Republican Partys nomination to be Vice President. While trump has claimed that pence was his first choice for a running mate, the New York Times reveals the Trump Campaign first reached out to Ohio Governor john kasich to be his running mate and he declined. According to the times, donald trump junior asked kasich if he had any interest in being the most powerful Vice President in history. Promising john kasich will be in charge of domestic and foreignpolicy. Donald trumps son reportedly said his fathers role as president would be simply making America Great again. Trumps campaign disputes this account, denies it wanted john kasich over pence. A how governor kasich has not come to the convention, even though it is thing held in his own state and he has been in cleveland this week. We begin todays show with a look at governor mike pence,e, e man who could become the most powerful Vice President in history if donald trump is elected in november. We are joined by two guests. In washington, d. C. , Darren Samuelsohn is senior policy reporter for politico. His article is called, the old cassettes that explain mike pence. And joining us via democracy now video stream is jeff sharlet, author of radiant truths. We welcome you both to democracy now tell us the story of governor mike pence. Who is this indiana politician jacob u. S. Congressman her, governor, fox talkshow host . Hes a kennedy democrat. He is an Irish Catholic kennedy democrcrat who reaeally either t his way or changed his way back in college at a christian rock astival that was meant to be evangelical woodstock. He decided to accept jesus and become an evangelical and that turned him on the path to conservatism, a wayay from the sort of dedemocratic rootsts. In 1980, think hee voted for jimmy carter. I 1984, he was a regular republican. I the early 1990s, h he was running for congress. He was losing badly because of his very sort of negative howaigning and he learned to be a kind of smoother, kinder ted cruz who sort o of characte. He is the ideological makeup of ted cruz, he just does not havee the visible venom. He entered congress in 2000. What is interesting is the way the press is playing him as mr. Stability, as this more moderate, conservative but mildmannered you go back and look at his record, and you see this is easily the most antireproductive rights bys president ial candidate in history, that he is not a man using his crusade against abortion as a political tool, but one who speaks of it and extensively as the greatest cause of our time is what he calls it. Hehe says abortion is worst then slavery and the holocaust combine. Everyone saying the opposite of trump, but theres a Common Thread between them and there are two, grandiosity and misogyny. Amy i want to go to a speech mike pence gave other values voter summit in 2010. To those who say marriages dont relevant to ourur budget crisis, you are not feel it a pretty enough money in a thousand years to pay for the government that you would need. If the family continues to collapse. To those who say we should focus on cutting spending, i s say, o, lets start by denying all federal funding for abortion at home and abroad. You want to find savings . Lets cut fufunding to science and involves embryos planned parenthood of america. Amy that is the Vice President ial nominee mike pence. Elaborate . T, can you that is a key clip. The goes to one of the more, misunderstanding that on the one hand there is social sm andvativi rightwingers can be either or. You have guys like mike pence in that speech and another speeches where he says we need a marriage and fiscal conservatism. You cannot have one without the other. Abortion, as he says, is an economic issue. That comes for him from one of his mentotors, a guy named chuck colson who died a few years ago. More infamous as one of nick since dirty tricks men who into prison, was born again, and came out as a house intellectual to christian right regime in jordan and like mike pence. This idea that all of these things are bungled up. When we talk about planned parenthood or you talk about samesex marriage, all you talk about or the economy, youre talking about one common enemy. Them is secularism. They won a godled government. That is the only legitimate government. When they speak of business, theyre not thinking of something separate from god, but what in mike pences circles would be biblical capitalism. This idea that this idea is godordained. That is what made him a really popular man in the circles. Everyone is obviously sort of saying this was meant to attract the evangelical base. I think it is working. In a significant way, that based is still wobbly for trump, but much less so with pence on board in with ththe idea a future with pence that some of these issues that may be progressives thought they had been n winningn , the tide is going to be turned. Especially with mike pence on abortion. The fruit o to religious freedom restoration act. In march 2015, governor pence said both clinton and obama have supported versions of the socalled religious freedom law, as have 19 other states besides indiana. The religious freedom restoration act was signed d ino federal law by president bill clinton more than 20 years ago and it lays out a framework for ensuring that a very high level of scrutiny is given anytime Government Action impinges on the religious liberty of any american. After that, some 19 states followed that adopted that statute. After last years hobby lobby case, indiana properly brought the same version thatt then stae senator barack obama voteded for in illinois before our toislature, and i was proud sign it into law last week. Amy then indiana governor mike pence went on to defend the lalw in the name e of tolerance. Is tolerant to a street or not . I mean, theres a lot of talk about tolerance in this country today, having to do with people on the left. But here indiana steps forward to protect the Constitutional Rights and privileges, freedom of religion, for people of faith and families of faith in our state, and ththis avalanche of intolerance has been poured on our state is outrageous. Amy that was 2015. That same year, during a press conference, governor pence also insisted the law does not condndone discrimination. This b bill is not t about discrimination. If i thoughtht it legalized discrimination in any way, i would have e vetoed it. I think inin time people will se it for what it is. They will see we did the right thing here. Amy again, that is indiana governor mike pence will stop jeff sharlet, talk about this bill. The backlash was enormous from sports leagues, the ncaa to corporations threatening to boycott indiana. Angies list said they would not do a 40 million expansion of the company. Talk about what happened and what this law was about, that the indiana governor was behind the hearing. Angies list may have been the key to breaking the his right,ne way saying laws like this have been passed else were in other states at the federal level. And the rhetoric of religious freedom as a justification for what is questionably discrimination, that us. Something mike pence invented. That is something that has been going on now since the 1990s and in large part because it is enabled again that traction because of democrats, including the clintons, who did not want to make an issue of it, wanted to be seen as religionfriendly and thought it was a lowcost maneuver. It turns out to be a highcost maneuver in indiana. You saw him m pushing it there s little bitit further, the sasamy he pushed antitiabortion restrictions just a little bit further than the other states. He wanted to be the first in this kind of christian right crusade. The corporations . This is not a great progressive victory. The corporations fighting back. He walked back the bill. It is still not a good thing. This idea that the bill was undone is false. It is still there. It has a little bit of language that some of his allies in the christian right did not like. Were seeing a narrative in the press that maybe mike pence is really going to activate the base because they turned on him. To me, that is a sign of not following the christian right in not understanding these kinds of stats and how they understand their politicians. No politicians is 100 . Ted cruz is not 100 of them. It is more whether this politician is being used by god. They see pence is being used by god. They will get over the disappointment in pence watering down the bill a little bit because they have the language in the history. When he says he is against he is for tolerance, they understand mike pence is a man who has compared himself to. Artin lutheher king he is a long list of sort of the icons he seems to be in the tradition of. Lincoln, the 18th and 19th century british parliamentarian ended slavery. An absolute icon of the christian right. Pence sees himself in that tradition, fighting for what was called the reformation of manners. What pence sees in the same way. That has to do so laws like this religious freedom act are just icing on the cake of a much larger project. Amy can you talk more about the Family Research council, its relationship with pence . This a Family Research council focused on the family, tony perkins in washington, sort open lobbying top shop of the christian right. Tony perkins w was in fact one f those guys who said, i feel a little rogue and ordered by mike pence walking back a little brokenhearted by mike pence walking back this bill. Hehe will comeme around. He i is a long history of coming around. He is a very canny political operator. There are guys like david barton, sort of a historian of the christian right. There is a whole universe one of the ones im interested in is the fellowship foundndation somememes calleded the family oc street. Viewers may remember in 2009, 2010, a number of congressional hopefuls im sorry, president ial hopefuls, they were all cut up it appears covered up by this evangelical organization. Mike pence h has been moving in the circles for a long time, using the National Prayer breakfast as a kind of backroom lobbying place for himim. That is his foreignpolicy expense, meeting with delegatitions from other c couns that are looking to do business with america. Often in terms of military funding and theyre going to do that under the cloak of prayer. Has been a skillful operator in that sense. I think that is why he is liked by conservatives. In the vein of ted cruz, but also an operator. He is also a man who cut deals. Ofhink there is a question is the hypocrite or a true believer . I think the answer is, yes, he is both, absolutely. And that is what makes him a force. Amy were going to go to break and come back to this discussion. It was said before that mike pence was a fox talkshow host, but he was just t a radio host. We will talk about some of the things he said there. ,ur guest is jeff sharlet associate professor of Literary Journalism at dartmouth. He wrote the book c street the , fundamentalist threat to american democracy. We will be back in a minute. [music break] amy freedom by george michael. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. War,aking with convention, peace, and the presidency. We are in cleveland, ohio, covering the National Convention inside and out, from the streets to the Convention Floor. Im amy goodman. We are broadcasting two hours a day from the Republican Convention and next week all through the week from the Democratic Convention in philadelphia. Were continuing to talk about republican Vice President ial nominee might pence. We look back at his time as a radio show host before he was her elected to congress. Before he was elected to congress. This is 1997. His adjusted there should be a law against adultery. Flynn was dischcharged from t te air force follllowing an affffar with a marriedan and relelated militatary offenses. The problem i is adultery is i iyouy an antiquateted sin will. Itit is no longeger in vogue i n amamerica. Therefore, kelly flinn, whwhethr she b be in the airir force or , ought not to be any way censured for allll she d did wae involvlved in an adudulterous afaffair. Whetheryou get a sense it is columns ive rd inin the new w york times, t that caller behavior an offense of the heaet ororlsewhere, you get this see in theaiainstream m media. And the prproblem here was a discomfofort with adulultery. Does that trouble anybody else . Amy that recording wasnt covered by our next guest, Darren Samuelsohn, who just published an article headlined the old cassettes that explain , mike pence. Still with us jeff sharlet, associate professor of literary jouournalism at dartmouth. Author of a number of books. Lets go back to Darren Samuelsohn. Tell us more about what you leararned about mike e pence, looking at these, listenening to ththese old cassetteses. Bit of a a little flflashback to t the 1990s. There was no due to back in. We could not find what mike pence said on his radio show, go to the internet or googling. I had t to go to indiana. A. I headed out there after we got word that mike pence was going to be the very vp. A lot of phone calls and pounding on doors, ultimately uncoverered a vh t tape. We had too go find an old vcr internet into a dvd, which you just showed on television. That was a bit of a transition of technology. Alalso and covovered in on a cassette tape from a show one year earlier from 1996, the day after the iowa caucus. You get a little bit of a sesene of what mike pence was like as a talkshshow host. T. This is what he did throughout the 1990s. He had a couple of failed congressional runs in 1988 and 1990 running agagainst congressn phil sharp. A popular democrat. Those campaigns got nasty. Mike pence durining and after te 1988 race actually started hiss radio career in a very, very small station just outside indianapolis. Wawas a local l show called Washington Update with mike pencee andnd churned assange or who was a local repupublican. Theyey talked once a week about what was going on in washington. Mike pence ray nagin for congress in 1990. The rays were he lost in apologized afterwards for being pretty negative. Mike pence spepent about two or three years heading the indiana policy review, a think tank conservative t think tank or he published a lot of articles. It was around then and 1993 when he started back up on the mike pence s show and became a local celebrbrity not a a big celey that many people knew aboutt outside indiana, butut he was trying in the voice of Rush Limbaugh sometimes come in the howard stern e era when those gs were becoming big, mike pence was doing that in indiana. Yet a mix of state politicians. Yeahah dan quayle on his show. He had dan quell on his show. He had a lot of republicans and he a also talked basketball, hoosier basketball, the indianapolis 500. He talked about the state fair. He was a big fan of that. We found to clips that l let uso back andnd see what mike pence s talking about. You could hear a little of that Rush Limbaugh boys coming through and definitely a cynicism for politics and republicans and democrats a ali. I think that is what you get out of these clips. Amy jeff sharlet, as you listen to Darren Samuelsohn, do you listen to anything about the menu have been looking at througugh these early tapes . I thinknk this repoporting invaluablele. Hearing that voice back in that time, youre getting this unvarnished sense of the man right before he gets savvier as time goes on, as he spends time in washington talking g about making adultery a crime. I suppose e he was ready to prprosecute his running mate. But that is in line on the one hand we hear that as inincredibly extreme, on the otr hand, it is worth understanding that as within the m mainstreamf a rightwing e evangelical movement, that those are the ideas that are in a meeting that based animating that base. He is learnt to smooth dowowthe rhetoric in the e same with hihs language about abortion and about lgbt rights has moved over the years. The ideas have not m moved. I would love to ask mike pence what his ideal response to adultery is today. If it is not still this idea of recognizing this as a grave public moral danger in the way thatat pence and his circle see morality as the most serious public issue. Amy i would like to ask both of you, starting with jeff sharlet, what about his t teaming up with donald trump . That is not t surprising to e at a all. I think theres been a big misunderstanding about what trump is and how conservative evangelicals view politicians for a long time. He is aidea that hypocrite. In his response, i may cenenter. But therere is also, especiallyn the week evangelical circles were e easy christian right lear david barton saying trump was not my first choice or my second choice, but i now realize it seems god has chosen him for this. They dont seem as a godly man. Man, as him as gods the tool that god is using. Theres a long, long history of that. They love going through history and finding examples of leaders who are not exactly moral exemplars who were used. Is that the illogical moment. It goes back you hear evangelicals citing king david. Secular viewers forget king david was and always a nice guy in the bible, but he was gods chosen man. Theres a coalescing idea that is doingobviously, god something with trump. It is hard to understand what it is, but let go and d let god and yourself on the ticket so that you can be there to influence him in the right direction. Amy Darren Samuelsohn, this idea of teaming up . P . As i was watching the 199997 was doingike pepence the donanald trump shtick before donald trumpmp. Donald trump at thisis time wass going on letterman and more of a celebrbrity. Back thehen, mike pence was sounding the sort t of antior e populist antiwashington f flav. He was a attackingng the mediair sosome of the very thingsgs that weve seen dodonald trump do ase is run foror president. The one thing that jumped out at me, a clip where mike pence is realally against t the indianaps star, the local newspaper for its coveragef t the indianapolis 500 that was c coming up that memorial day weekekend. One of t the things that m mike pence harped on was the number of people the indiananapolis str said were at the preliminary race events, the carburetion day a lastt r raise practice race before the event. I think the paper reportrted the were 15,000 people. Mike pence was, where did they get that number . He had been ththere is a reportr withth his own press pass and he said he is inn several 10 thousands more people. Hehe was upset about a picture f the newspaper ththat showed an emptpty sausage anand p peppersk stand. He said, i was there and i saw much larger line. The same kind of thing you h hed earlrly on in the Trump Campaign when he was raililing againstt reporters for in accurately reporting the size o of the cro. Only mike pence e was doing this 20 years ago. You hear it over and over is the criticizes reporters and thehe mainstream media, something you heard Rush Limbaugh do in the 1990s, too, bubut mike pence ws doing this with a press pass around his neck and then indiana Radio Station that was broadcast in very small totowns. It really helped him build the base and m maintain that network of donors people who supported hiss campapaign back n 1988 and 1990,s biggest radio sponsors when he was on the air. Local businessman o on the air, one who is now the chairman of the indiana a Republican Party d a closose pencee ally maintain support for him as he ran for congress three 2000. He built a network. He was on the streets talking with sponsors, meeting with affiliates. He was hosting salons with big names in indiana. He wasas courting a network fofr ththat run foror congress. Itit just sort of shows he was always thinking ahead to that political career that now has him on the ticket with donald trump. It is quite amazing. Amy Darren Samuelsohn, thank you for being with us senior , policy reporter for politico. We will link to yoyour keys s e , old cassettes that explain mike pence. And thank you to jeff sharlet, associate professor of Literary Journalism at dartmouth. Author of several books including, c street the fundamentalist threat to american democracy. His most recent book is radiant truths. Back in a minute. [music break] amy jumper by third eye blind. The band performed at a benefit concert tuesday night in cleveland andndhe singer r stepn jacobs true b boos for many in e audience in town for the rnc when he introduced the song by talking about the needed to brig people like my cousins who are gay into the American Fabric and to not live your life and fear in opposing that fear on other people. Jacobs asked the crowd to raise your hand if you believe in science. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. Breakiking with convenention, w, peace, the presidency. We are from cleveland,d, ohio, covering the republican National Convention inside and out from the streets to the Convention Floor. The big newsnight, of the convention was that texas senator ted cruz, former republican president ial candidate, dominated the headlilines when h he r refusedo endorse donald trump during tech loses prime time speech. But take resist of the only prprominent republicican to have withheld suppo for trump. Any of the parties most prominent members did not even show up. Democracy now headed to the Convention Floor to look at who did and did not make it. Am hehere with democracy now at the Republican National coconvention. Were having a really hard time finding a number of Top Republican leaders. Marco rubio, jeb bush, lindsey graham, mitt romney, even former president george w w. Bush we have been running around and have not been able to find them anywhere. We are here now on the on the secondor night. Were going to go in on the floor to see where they are at. [cheers] over and the distance we can see the nevada dedelegation. Lets see if we can find senenar dean heller. And with the nevada delegation. Were looking for senator heller. Have you seen him . Know, he is not here. Do you know where he is . I do not. Is he going to be speaking soon . I do not believe so. It turns out senator dean heller is not here. He did tell one outlet he was going to be air a getting his ranch this week, but lets go head on over to florida and see if we can find marco rubio. We have not seen him all week. From bay county, florida, which is animosity. We have been looking for a number of people from your city state. Marco rubio and jeb bush. Do you know w where we might be able to find them . Ive no idea. I think rubio may show up sometime this week but i dont know where jeff is. J eb is. Im sure he is in miami. Is in second number of leaders are missing from the florida delegation. Lets head over to south carolilina and if we can find senator r lindsey graham. I am from lake wylie, South Carolina. We have been looking for senator from your state, South Carolina senator linindsey grah. Have you seen him . I have not seen him here. Do you knowow if he is planng toto come . Quite know. Would you like to see him come . To the event, sure. Noshow at least so far was South Carolina senator lindsey graham, but lets keep going. I am from houston, texas. We have been looking for former president george w. Bush. Have you seen him . Know, ive not seen him at all. He is a good guy. I wish him well wherever he is. Do you know what his thoughts are about donald trump . I think he is concerned about the direction of the country under donald trump. It seems he is concerned he may be the last republican president. I can see kentucky delegation. Lets see what is going on with senator rand paul. I am from owensboro, kentucky. We have not seen senator rand paul. Have you seen him . Not ais in a tough tough, but a reelection cycle back home, s so he is elected to stay there. Honestly, paying a lot of attention to make sure he is representing the interest of kentucky. It turns out rand paul is not here. See the ohiou us, i delegation. Lessee of a confined Governor John Kasich of ohio 07 21 16 07 21 16 i am from a field, ohio. Im an alternate delegate for governor kasich. Congratulations. We have been looking for governor kasich. Have you been able to find him . I have not seen him. It doesnt seem like were been able to find john kasich. Next door is the pennsylvania delegation. Lets see about pennsylvania senator pat toomey. I am from outside of philadelphia, pennsylvania. We have been running around everywhere looking for your senator pat toomey. Have you seen him . Know, i also havent seen the congressman for my district, ryan costello, who was elected as a delegate, promising to vote for the district winner on the first ballot. I have not seen him, either. How do you feel about that . Well, you know, all i can say is he said it and i did not see him here voting. It seems like sometimes the crowd is thin. Do you feel that some Republican Leaders are not showing up for donald trump . Well, obviously. See a lotear when you of the candidates who pledged to support the nominee not here. We see expresident s not here. Bob dole is here, which all of the expresident s should be. Former president george w. Bush is not here. He would be an example. Does that as a trump supppporter make you upset . Not upset. I am kind of disappointed in somebody that i voted for twice, and realally thinknk that people helped him and he should be doing the same thing. Well, it looks like theres still a lot of noshows from Top Republican leaders. Former florida florida senator and former republican president ial canandidate marco rubio did appear in a recorded video on wednesday night at the convention endorsing donald trump, but he is not physicacaly come to the Republican Convention. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. With convention, war, peace, and the presidenc, broadcasting from cleveland. Protest continue outside the rnc. I wednesday, hundreds gathered to erect a wall against trump blocking the entrance to the Convention Center with a massive cloth banner painted like a wall. No papers. No fear. Were going to be walling xenophobia and protect communities from people in positions of power who do not look out for the benefit of all of us as a community. Today we are drawing a line in the sand to demand respect for our communities and ask for folks who are stepping on the sidelines not knowing what they should do to come and join us and to start walling off hate in their communities, to start protecting their people because we as a Community Know the solutions. No one else is going to do it for us, so this is a call to action for also a message to trump and anyone that feels like using xenophobia and hate as a means of power. That is not the solution and were going to be here and continue to fight. Can you introduce yourself and your organization . I am from dallas, texas, with the iraq veterans against the war. I am a son of immigrants. My pants came from mexico. The fact you have donald trump saying that mymy father was an immigrant or other family members who immigrated from mexico are rapists are murderers is n not so. I am here because im a muslim. When donald trump says theyre going to the report deport and not allow muslims into the country or Newt Gingrich saying theyre going to deport any muslim who believes in sharia law im here to support both my communities. They are being marginalized and attacked by donald trump and specific constituents within the gop party. My name is laura. We are with united we dream action. Organizationing an and their actions today. Were here for the Republican Convention as part of her own organization, so we were here at her own marching two days ago. We are fighting for the same things. Communities of color, lgbtq community, we all want to stand together united against hate. Trump is trying to make it sound like his rhetoric is simple protecting the borders. What is the impact of the language he is been using this campaign on the immigrant community . It criminalizes most of us, so there are people who even claim to be on our side, claim to be proimmigration, but will use the hashtags, families before felons, for example, but that criminalizes our committee. What is the definition of criminals . We can be seen as criminals by being here are may be driving without a license, which is not a good enough reason for them to feel that way. I have been viewed as a criminal technically being undocumented in the eyes of probably most of the Republican Party. I came here when i was three years old. That is not enough like, i did not make the decision to come here, so it is kind of crazy to think of threeyearold as criminals. Now that trumps while proposal has been integrated into the Republican Party platform, do you think trumps rhetoric about the wall has become mainstream . Yeah, it is one of the main things that people associate with them. A lot of people it is a huge thing they can chant, build a wall to keep all of the illegals out, as they refer to us. It represents this whole immigration policy, which people have not taken into account how much that would cost and by actually deporting all 11 million of u us and building tht wall, it would cost the country so much money and we would eventually go into debt. Thomas. Me is i come from southern georgia. We are here with this wall to block the wall trump once to build in the border. We prefer the wall stays here as this virtual wall, as this wall of love. We do not want him to build a wall on the border with mexico. A message that donald trump has created fear in our community as are ready been well impacted from president Barack Obamas deportation policy. Now with this threat that he is going to create hate and by saying he will take us all out, there is fear in our communities. That is why we believe this is the right moment to come here and protest and confined the heat with this wall said that the hate donald trump has been wanting to disseminate wont reach to our communities. Donald wants to build a wall, so we have brought this wall. Trump off trump f were at the front door of Trumps Convention in cleveland, ohio, and there are a number of immigrants documented and undocumented that are walling off trump as we e speak. They built a wall to wall out hate and wall off trump. He wants a wall, were bringing it to him. Look, execute and folks are bringing it to him and mexican folks helped pay for this wall. We had to raise 15,000 and lots of mexican people in mexico contributed. We are where immigrant activists from around the country have successfully built a wall against trump is one of the main entrances to the republican National Convention. Amy and that does it for todays broadcast. If you would like to see both hours of the show, you can go to democracynow. Org. I will be doing a convention wrapup at the end of the two weeks, broadcasting next week from the Democratic Convention in philadelphia posted on friday, july 29, speaking in provincetown, massachusetts. [captioning made possible by democracy now ] amy from the Republican National convnvention in cleveveland, this is democracy now for the sake of our Second Amendment and for the sake of all our other godgiven liberties, we must ensure that our next president appointing justices to the Supreme Court is donald trump. Amy indiana governor mike pence accepts the republican nomination for Vice President , but penc