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Invitation of Oil Giants Shell and chevron to speak at the talks. Will look at corporate conquistadors the many ways multinationals both drive and profit from climate destruction. Then, its gender day here at the climate talks. We will hear from a Group Indigenous Women Leaders on the front lines of defending the earth from exploitation by fossil fuel companies. They may not be coming after us with their bayonets and rifles, they are coming at us with nuclear waste, with fracking, coming at us with pipelines that are caring that filled from the tar sands where theyre killing my relatives up there. And theyre bringing it to you. And as the high level talks begin here in lima, we will speak to pablo solon, bolivias former chief climate negotiator. All that and more, coming up. Welcome to democracy now, democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. We are broadcasting from lima, peru. First, the headlines. The u. S. Senate Intelligence Committee is releasing today portions of its longawaited report on the cia torture and Extraordinary Rendition Program under president george w. Bush. The report will mark the first public account of how the cia abused foreign prisoners at secret prisons overseas. The u. S. Has heightened security at embassies nationwide in anticipation of a blowback over the reports findings. On monday, White House Press secretary josh earnest said despite the security fears, the Obama Administration supports the reports release. There are some indications that the release of the report could lead to a greater risk that is posed to u. S. Facilities and individuals all around the world. So the administration has taken a prudent steps to ensure the proper security precautions are in place at u. S. Facilities around the globe. Said, and this is the last key part, that said, the administration strongly supports the release of this declassified summary of the report. Report out today summarizes the investigations findings in 480 heavilyredacted pages. The full 6,200page report remains classified. The conclusions include finding the cia issued incorrect claims about how many prisoners it held and subjected to torture, actively avoided or impeded oversight congressional and federal oversight, including by lying, ignored internal critiques, and misled the public on the extent of its abuses and the intelligence gained as a result. The report also exposes previously undisclosed torture tactics, including repeatedly dunking prisoners and tanks of ice water and threatening them in one case with a buzzing power drill and in another with a broom stick to be used for Sexual Assault. The report concludes the torture techniques provided no major intelligence gains. New York Attorney general Eric Schneiderman has asked for the authority to probe all Police Killings of unarmed civilians. He cited public outcry following the recent grand jury decision not to indict the officers involved in both the deaths of Michael Brown in missouri and eric garner in new york. A last week after learning grand jury declined to indict anyone involved in her husband step, garner was recorded as saying, oh, my god, are you serious . Sense of reflect a many new yorkers and Many Americans that are just are Justice System does not provide equal justice for everyone, especially people of color killed during encounters with law enforcement. That erosion of trust and confidence must be addressed and must be addressed now. Im calling on the governor to immediately issue a temporary Standing Order authorizing my office to investigate the circumstances surrounding cases in which unarmed civilians are killed as a result of the actions of a Police Officer or peace officer. Talks attorney general schneidermans call comes amidst continued protests over the grand jury decision not to indict a new york city Police Officer for the death of eric garner. Monday began with a sitin on the verazano bridge that blocked morning rushhour traffic between brooklyn and staten island. Protesters carried signs reading , eric garner, mike brown, and black lives matter. Later in the day, dozens of people, including city councilmembers, staged a diein on the steps of city hall. And at night, hundreds of people gathered outside an nba basketball game at the Barclays Center in brooklyn, blocking traffic and marching for several hours. I think we just reached a Tipping Point where people are [blee] for the most part, they are peaceful and organized in a powerful way. I think it is very heartening to me to see it. Im out here in solidarity with these people. It is the same as it is in st. Louis. A lot of us came down because it is just like people from new york came to st. Louis. We standing together with the people. And the sports world, basketball stars, including Cleveland Cavaliers forward lebron james, join the protest by wearing shirts emblazoned with i cant breathe. Watching the nba basketball game, Prince William as well as his wife kate. Saidasketball league chief the players should be wearing the approved basketball gear, and that gear is advertising adidas. Part in thes taking ongoing protest monday included berkeley, california, where over 1000 people marched in the streets and shut down a highway. A group of protesters also blocked an amtrak train after marching on a railroad track. , following the eric garner decision, speaking to the network bet, reference to his recent meeting with ferguson activists to say deeply rooted racism will take a long time to defeat. When i told the young people i met with him a we are going to have more conversations like this over the coming months, is this isnt going to be solved overnight. This is something that is deeply rooted in our society, deeply rooted in our history. When youre dealing with something as deeply rooted as society, bias in any you have to have vigilance, but you have to recognize it is going to take some time and you just have to be steady so that you dont develop give up when we dont get all the way the family of slain 12yearold tamir rice has filed a federal civil rights suit against the city of cleveland and the two officers involved in his death. Tamir was playing inside a park with a plague on that had the playstrict removed gun that have the Plastic Strip removed. Within seconds, officers opened fire and killed him. On monday, his mother spoke out along with the family attorney benjamin crump. Child. R was a bright. E at a promising future he was very talented in all sports soccer, basketball, football. He played drums, hed true, he played video games. He was a great swimmer. The humidity love tim. He was a helper at school and the rec. Everybody just loved him. This scenario cannot happen again in america. We cannot have children playing cops and robbers on the playground and Police Officers coming and claiming their lives because they are not equipped to deal with an encounter with a kid in a toy gun. Theyre supposed to deescalate, not escalate the situation. Thatverything you see in video, escalated the situation. The rice family says the officers did not administer first aid on tamir after he was shot and his 14 euros sister was tackled and handcuffed after she arrived at the scene. The family wants the case to go ofaight to trial instead before grand jury. The United Nations has launched record appealed to meet the needs of tens of millions of people in humanitarian emergencies worldwide. The human humanitarian chief valerie amos unveiled the more than 16 billion request. In the plans were launching today, a combined 78 Million People are considered in need of humanitarian assistance. And we aim to respond to the urgent needs of 57 million of them. This does not include the nine where we will launch in february. We require 16. 4 billion dollars to meet the need and the appeals were launching today. The number of people in dire need during 2014 has nearly doubled to record 102 million from 54 million last year. The appeal comes as a group of eight organizations have called on rich nations to offer refuge to at least 5 of syria pressed syrias refugees. The u. S. Will keep an additional 1000 troops in afghanistan on top of the nearly 10,000 already committed to remain beyond this year. Outgoing defense secretary chuck hagel announced the move during a visit to afghanistan. President obama has provided u. S. Military commanders the flexibility, the flexibility to manage any temporary for shortfalls that we might experience for a few months as we allow for Coalition Troops to arrive in theater. This will mean a delayed withdrawal of up to 1000 u. S. Troops. So that up to 10,000 10,800 troops, rather than 9800, could remain in afghanistan through the end of this year and for the first few weeks of next year. Defense secretary chuck hagel says the change is temporary and will not change the longterm timeline for withdrawing troops. The announcement comes amidst a surge taliban attacks over the past several months. Rolling stone magazine has walked back a report about a pattern of Sexual Assault and impunity at the university of virginia. The article focuses on a student named jackie who was says she was gangraped at a fraternity and ignored by school officials. On friday, Rolling Stone issued a statement acknowledging discrepancies in the story and raising questions about its source, saying our trust in her was misplaced. After receiving criticism for appearing to blame a rape accuser, Rolling Stone revised its statement to say the mistakes were its own. The magazine says it did not try to interview the alleged rapists out of respect for jackies wishes. While several Details Remain unsubstantiated, the fraternity itself has not denied a Sexual Assault took place. Jackies former roommate, emily clark, has spoken out in her defense, writing while i cannot say what happened that night, and i cannot prove the validity of every tiny aspect of her story to you, i can tell you that this story is not a hoax. Something terrible happened to jackie at the hands of several men who have yet to receive any repercussions. And those are some of the headlines this is democracy now, democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. We are broadcasting live from lima, peru at the United Nations Climate Change conference known as cop20. It is the 20th annual conference of the parties to the 1992 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. The summit is being held at the Peruvian Army headquarters known as el pentagonito. It is a site with a dark history. It was built in 1975 by the dictator juan velasco alvarado. The army under Alberto Fujimori later used the base to torture and interrogate Political Prisoners including members of the shining path. This week the base is being used to host representatives from 190 nations attending the Climate Change conference. Secretary of state john kerry is expected to arrive here on thursday. The last time a u. S. Secretary of state attended the summit was Hillary Clinton in 2009 in copenhagen. On monday, the peoples summit on Climate Change kicked off in lima in a city park miles from the u. N. Talks. Meanwhile, inside the talks a number of actions took place. On monday afternoon, activists gathered to protest the Oil Giant Shell. A representative from the company, david hone, shells Climate Change advisor, spoke at a panel inside the United Nations climate conference. Democracy nows mike burke was there when scores of summit delegates attempted to walk into the shell event. In a moment, you will hear one of the protest organizers Pascoe Sabido of the corporate europe observatory. But first, godwin uyi ojo, executive director of environmental Rights Action action friends of the Earth Nigeria. Human rights violations, killing [indiscernible] shell has just destroyed our livelihood. Violence against people, violence against communities. Shell has no place in these negotiations. Right nextdoor, we have shell sponsoring an event. We are now going to calmly and peacefully go over to their event and asked them why they are here. Please, follow us in a calm way. Were going to see if we can interact. Theyre trying to present themselves as part of the climate solution. Shell is one of the biggest polluters in the world. [inaudible] event is sponsored by chevron. These are not players we want to see [inaudible] can you talk about some of the people taking part . People being affected in peru and colombia and people around the world, whether north or south, and solidarity in the impact is corporations are having these corporations are having. We also have lord Nicholas Stern who is supposed to be speaking. He is a wellknown climate economist and respected. Here he is lending his legitimacy to this action even. , yeture he doesnt agree he is putting his name to it. [inaudible] my name is godwin ojo. Were here to condemn the activities of shell at cop 20. Shell is promoting energy as part of the Energy Future of the world. The people you see here, they say, no, it is time for energy tonsformation of the world that of Renewable Energy. In line with the african position of her noble energy, that is why we are here. Shell has caused monumental havoc, destroyed our livelihood. They have destroyed all that people depend on. Time [indiscernible] there are no longer part of the Energy Future of the world. This is why were pushing for Renewable Energy and to say shell has no part in cop20. That was godwin uyi ojo, executive director of environmental Rights Action friends of the Earth Nigeria speaking outside an event at the u. N. Climate change talks where a representative from the Oil Giant Shell spoke. Before that, you heard Pascoe Sabido of the corporate europe observatory. Pascoe joins us now live. We are broadcasting from lima, peru. We are inside the cop20, as it is called right now. Interesting, cop watch in new york to cop watch right now in lima. Cop here is short for conference of parties, and it is the 20 than a verse or if. The corporate europe observatory and two other groups, the Democracy Center and the transnational institute, just published a new report titled, corporate conquistadors the many ways multinationals both drive and profit from climate destruction. Welcome back to democracy now talk about this report. It is our attempt at trying to shine a bit more light on the role destructive companies are playing in the Climate Crisis. We have taken three particular examples of operating in latin america to try to tell a bit more of a story. Repsol,rporations , spanish, glencorexstrata, swiss, and enelendesa, spanish, with large amounts of local resistance to what theyre doing, extracting gas, oil, minerals, as well as building hydro, but then tried to show the other side of it. Theyre not just trashing local communities, also the climate talks. These are some of the Biggest Companies and that means a multibillion dollar, multibillion euro companies have a lot to protect. Their activities are driving Climate Change. Theyre really the ones behind false of fuel extraction. Then any action that moves against this, which is what were trying to do in the talks, ultimately, try number removed also feel extraction, that will cost a lot of money so theyre trying to stop that from happening. About the party crashed yesterday or the sub meeting that you crashed. There was lots and lots of active people there try to protest against the president of the fossil fuel industry here in these talks. Cop20. This is 20 years we have been going without progressing toward some climate deal, fair and business deal that we need. It is because of the aggressive lobbying and here in the talks. Hashtag. A get fossil fuel industry out of this process. Theyre the same ones having the Climate Crisis in the same ones who are stopping us being able to solve it. We need to get them out of this process. That doesnt just mean the u. N. , but, policy in general. So much of this influencing happens at a national level. So many governments come here with their positions already made up because of the likes of shell and chevron have already done their lobbying at home. Australia doing so little here . The lobby groups back home. We need to be clear about this. Talks yesterday, it was lord stern who spoke at the talks. Im not talking about todd stern, the u. S. Climate negotiator, chief negotiator here. Talk about the significance of who he is and why he invited shell to these talks. This was an industry side of it. It was organized by shell, chevron, the trade association. They invited lord stern who in 2006, was really influential review to an economic case behind Climate Change, which led to a lot of action. This guy is respected, yet here he is lending his name to an event which was originally called, why divest from plosser fuels when we happen abundance of low carbon fossil fuel energy readily available . This is the fossil fuel industry trying not to change away from their dirty, destructive extractive model and lord stern has lent his name to them. He has given them legitimacy. What is the point of the peru summit . You have the binding summit next year and a. The, lord stern is now saying what was one of the articles, stern warning. Dont think about a binding treaty, maybe that is not the answer. What you feel is the answer,pascoe . The fossil fuel industry, the power vested interest having a say. In lima, backsliding. Backsliding on commitments of finance finance . How countries are affected by, change can do with those impacts like the philippines, like we saw yesterday. Finance to make sure they dont have to follow the same to be develop mental pathways the northern countries have followed, as well as things like loss and damage, Technology Transfer with loss and damage means . Like the philippines a giving dish giving reparations to countries that have an cause this, crisis but are suffering. Theyre all of these parts of the climate package. Next are in paris, i dont predict we will have something that many of us will be happy with. Just. L not be ambitious, we dont have control over our governments. Theyre not listening to us. In order to get a good outcome in the u. N. , when it power at home and to build that accountability. One of the clear ways is to get rid of the fossil fuel industries influence, out of these talks, out of our national governments. Them a thankido you for being with us, researcher and campaigner at corporate europe observatory, which has copublished a report just out today titled, corporate conquistadors the many ways multinationals both drive and profit from climate destruction. Coming up, we will speak with the founder the head of the rain forest the amazon watch. Also, we will speak to pablo solon, the former bolivian ambassador to the United States and former bolivian chief climate negotiator. That is coming up. Stay with us. [music break] this is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. Broadcasting from lima, peru, from cop20. We turn right now to altossa soltani. This years u. N. Climate change conference marks the first time the talks have been held in an amazon country. More than 70 of perus National Territory is within the amazon basin. Yesterday, i spoke to the founder and executive director of amazon watch, atossa soltani, and asked her about the significance of the u. N. Climate change summit in peru. It is the first cop ever in an amazon country. The amazon is incredibly important in the climate debate, both because of deforestation is a huge source of emissions but also because the rain forests, the amazon creates these flying rivers. That is basically providing fertile rain so the in car to entire continent and the world. And we lose the amazon, we not only create emissions, but we lose the climate stabilizing function of the forest. We are reaching a Tipping Point. We are very close to the Tipping Point where the hydrological cycles collapse. In fact, we had a drought in 2010 and the amazon that generated more emissions, carbon, that all of the annual emissions of the country of india. We are in a critical moment where the future of the planet will depend on what happens in the amazon. In windsor challenge our governments theyre using the amazon to generate both huge amounts of electricity from dams , which block the flow of the river and flood forest and cut off the hydrological cycle, and also can for oil and gas and fossil fuels that we cannot even afford to burn. This is important moment to really put the importance of the amazon on the top of the agenda. Then you say, what do we have to do to protect the amazon . We have to support indigenous land rights. Supporting their lifeways, supporting the way they can live off the land and protect their forests the way they have for thousands of years is key to our future is key to future of our society. Stop emissions altogether oil, region. L in the amazon actually, everywhere. We have to basically stop expanding the search for more fossil fuels and start to talk kept which reserves get underground. And that is an important conversation to be having here. Obama, in even acknowledged obama even it knowledge to we have to keep the majority of the worlds fossil fuels in the ground. If you go to the amazon, 70 of the peruvian amazon is being leased out to Oil Companies that are looking for more reserves our planet cannot afford to burn. That is why this cop is important. To put the amazon on the map, to put indigenous rights central to the debate, and to call for the and of the fossil fuel era. That is why we are here. What do you say to someone like the popular president of bolivia, avo morales, who just ran once again for president and won by an overwhelming majority, healthcampaigning on clinics, on economic development. And a lot of this is fueled by extraction. It is funded by extraction. President s who was say, these other countries like the United States, this is how they developed, who are you to stop us from doing the same . What were doing to the planet, to the forest, to the rivers, were doing to ourselves. Were only a few generations away from losing the hydrological cycle. What i would say to the president of bolivia is that, remember, 70 of the gross to mastic product of south america domestic product of south america comes from places fed by amazon rain. 70 of the gdp depends on amazon rain. It is really cutting your nose to spite your face when you can say, well, were going to have to destroy the forests that give us rain in order to have jobs. That makes no sense. We need to move to a postpetroleum economy. The sooner we do it, the more chances we have of recovering the Productive Systems that give us life. What you say to someone like president correa is that i want to preserve the Sunni National park. I dont want to take the oil from the soil. Please, to the industrialized world, help us protect this space. And he could not raise the money, so he has moved in with Chinese Companies and has infuriated the indigenous population there. I stood with the president on stage when he launched his initiative. I wholeheartedly support this initiative to keep the oil in the ground. It was ahead of its time. , great president correa idea, head of its time, maybe the world wasnt ready to pay for this. But they will be. They are now. We are now all talking about how to basically keep oil and gas in the ground. And president correa is losing his leadership role and be men first country to have proposed this, you could really have the moral and Ethical Leadership in this moment leadership in this moment is key. Yet a great leadership position. It is an idea that will happen. Leads it or not remains to be seen. We will continue to fight for saving Sunni National park. His argument of why it should be protected in 2007 are still true today. Really, we want it really is up to the International Community and to china, who is given ecuador 13 billion in financing in exchange for oil that ecuador has remaining in this amazon, including yes sunni oil. It is up to china to say, hey, maybe china should forget ecuadors debt and president correa should assume a leadership role and protect this area, which is not only the most while diverse place in the world, it is expected to survive Climate Change. It really is the cradle of life. What question would you have for todd stern, the chief u. S. Climate negotiator here . I would say, what is the u. S. Doing to basically and all subsidies end all subsidies for expiration . Our government spends twice explain dollars subsidizing new reserves, looking for new reserves. That has to stop. We have to basically tax carbon. We need to tax carbon and stop talking about, medication. One pollution credit versus another. Allowing someplace to pollute versus saving carbon elsewhere. We have to get beyond that and look at carbon tax, look at cutting not only cutting exploration, changing the laws that now allow fracking to proliferate throughout america and looking at basically ending subsidies for fossil fuels. Into president obama, and what some might call the lameduck years, others might say these are his years to create his legacy . President obama came in under the platform of hope. I think we need to hold him to that. This is the moment where the planet is looking to the leaders of the world, to president obama come to president dilma and correa, think about future generations. Listen up and have the voices of future generation. Your only legacy should be, what kind of a world are you being good ancestors to future generations . That was atossa soltani, the founder and executive director of amazon watch. She just come out of a remarkable afternoon with Indigenous Women yesterday, meeting to discuss their own solutions to Climate Change. Today is gender day here at the United Nations Climate Change summit, a day that acknowledges the disproportionate impact of Climate Change on women, who make up 70 of the worlds poor. Mondays event was held by womens earth and Climate Action network, or wecan, featured Indigenous Women leaders on the front lines of defending the earth from exploitation by fossil fuel companies. The event was moderated by wecan executive director osprey orielle lake and amazon watch usa Program Director leila salazarlopez. Ofshes the Vice President [indiscernible] the people lived in a better way in the past. Our water and environment was clean. Now, they have ruined everything. They have polluted the rivers. Childrens scans are affected. They have different skin diseases. Now theealthy fish and fish is polluted. We just have a little bit of territory left for the future generations to not suffer the way we have. We have to continue fighting. That is the only thing we have left. If we did not fight if we dont fight for territories like ours, then we would not be here speaking at this meeting. Canadian, from the tar sands region of canada. The government knew what was under the land in 1860. Iny knew that oil was there 1860. So they took their time and it was a long, long process. Process and this is not just for the tar sands, but for all resources for taking this off the land is the children were taken away. And it was the law. If you did not give your children up, then you could go to jail and your kids would be taken anyway. Some people hid their children. Our traditions were kept underground, in secret. For generations, our language was outlawed. Outlawed. Were this Creative Force was outlawed. Our names were taken away. [singing in native language] so this is a traditional song from my people. It is basically saying, im happy, were happy to be together. My people are from the state of which is in the amazon in brazil. And i am here to bring the voice of Indigenous Women, in particular of brazil, those who could not be here with us. And all of them who would say the same thing, so that we could unite our voices. Ause the reality is, many in many of the organizations, there is not a space for women, Indigenous Women to participate. And so many times, they feel suffocated for the words they cannot say. Island or the United States of america. Were living in a very destructive area where i am. We have conoco phillips, fracking, earthquakes as a result of that fracking. We have fish kills. We have cancer rates that are irrational michael at this time. We have literal killings. They may not be coming after us with their bayonets and the rifles, but theyre coming at us with nuclear waste. Theyre coming at us with fracking. Theyre coming at us with pipelines that are carrying that filth from the tar sands where there are killing my relatives up there. And theyre bringing it to you. Leader. Th i grew up in a beautiful place in the rain forest of ecuador. I dont have words to describe my childhood, but it was beautiful. Cannot ask for anything else when i was about seven years , thisaybe eight in representative of an oil Company Called cg c came, and argentine he and oil Company Argentinian oil company. I did not speak, but i saw my elders, my mother, and all the people were worried and there was tension. I did not know what was going on. I asked my mother, what is going on . Everyone had gathered in this place to talk about what was happening. And all of the children were playing outside. But i sat down beside my mother and asked her to translate for me. I fearedthe first time for my land and the life that i knew was going to be destroyed. Leader fromenous ecuador. The destruction of nature is the destruction of our own energy and of her own existence here on earth. And the destruction of our spaces is the destruction of indigenous populations. [indiscernible] ecuador. Er from you have just heard some of the voices at this remarkable event called Women Leading Solutions on the front line of, change posted by wecan. Is democracy now , democracynow. Org. When we come back, we will be joined by the former bolivian ambassador to the United Nations, the former bolivian chief u. N. Climate negotiator pablo solon. Stay with us. [music break] this is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. We are broadcasting live from the u. N. Climate conference in lima, peru where delegates from around the world are drafting a global agreement to reduce Greenhouse Gas emissions that contribute to global warming. The summit is being held at the Peruvian Army headquarters. It is a site with a dark history. It was built in 1975 by dictator. Under the president , use the base to torture and interrogate Political Prisoners. On monday, the first text of this years draft was released. For more we are joined by pablo solon, bolivias former ambassador to the United Nations. He also served as bolivias chief negotiator on Climate Change. But now he lives in bangkok were he is director of focus on the global south. Earlier this week, he was a presenter at the International Rights of nature tribunal which took place here in peru. Now because this area is so well fortified, where we are broadcasting from, much of the activities of indigenous and citizen activists from around the world is taking place miles away, sometimes more than an hour drive, where thousands have gathered to take on these Critical Issues of the day. Pablo solon is the one who bridges the two worlds, as a former bolivian diplomat now representing civilians, society around the world, with his new organization. Pablo solon, welcome back to democracy now here we are. It took a while to get inside. You have to have all sorts of credentials. Also a site of terrible pain, a pain you have known. Your brother disappeared in bolivia under another dictator. Talk about where we have come, both on human rights and the issue of Climate Change and how you see them related. If you want to address Climate Change, we should look other places to have this meeting. More close to the people, more close to nature. Authoritarianfrom regimes. That is key. Only if we are able to hear nature and hear the people, you will be able to solve this critical issue. The main question is, are we moving forward or are we moving backward . Fact on theput one table. You all have heard the u. S. And china have come to an agreement, and the u. S. Has said theyre going to reduce between 26 to 20 of Greenhouse Gas emissions 28 of Greenhouse Gas emissions by the year 2025, taking into account the levels of 2005. They have presented this is something very important, a move forward. But you know much they are ready pledged in copenhagen five years ago . They pledged 30 by the year 2025. So in reality, instead of increasing the pledge of the west, they have decreased the pledge of the u. S. In this agreement with china. Stronger not having pledges commitment from developing countries now. Wouldis is happening, i say not only in the case of china and the u. S. , but with all countries. China is saying theyre going to ink their emissions only 2013. 2030. That is too late. All scientists are saying global emissions should take this before 2020, and this is not going to happen because this agreement is saying this will only take place in 2030. This is where we are. In reality, we are not moving to a better agreement, more stronger than the cutera protocol, euro protocol, we are moving to a more softer agreement, or voluntary, more basic pledges, and with no mechanism to enforce those pledges. When you were the climate negotiator at the cop for bolivia, or other, negotiators. This year one of them is not yo. E, yeb san thisme in this typhoonravaged community of the philippines. Also a wellknown filipino, negotiator, no longer represents the philippines, she is there under the badger bolivia, your country. What happened . Many are pointing the finger at the u. S. And other outside interests saying that put pressure because they have become known so much as the voices of Climate Change. Going on a fast so there would be some kind of action. This is to the first time this happened. Copenhagen in the next meeting after copenhagen, bernadine to was also kicked out of the philippine delegation and if im not wrong, she was under the delegation of sudan which was had with which was head of the g77. The restart that time was precisely because of the pressure that the u. S. Made and also europe, put in order to get rid of this negotiators that are not comfortable. They want to show things are moving forward and these negotiators are showing, hey, in reality, were moving back to. Bernadine joe, if you invite her, she will tell you, hey, they promise us 100 billion for developing countries that are not responsible of, change, but our suffering, change by the year 2020. And now the reality is, it is in these 100 billion at all, not even half of that. This is why you are going to see and were going to see more of this, more pressure in order to get rid of those negotiators that can be of comfortable for the proposals of the u. S. And also europe. Dopablo solon, what can you outside in civilian society that you could not do here at the cop . And now that you have this perspective, it if you were here, what you would do as a climate negotiator . I think this is a false reality. It is created to hide what is really happening in the governments. So in reality, here you are not negotiating. Everything is being solved outside of the cop in small. Eetings, at very high level and a final agreement is going to come from outside. I would say after being here, i know you spend a lot of time, you think youre creating a comma ory changing a changing a word, but in reality, that is not changing the agreement. I firmly believe only if we have a very Strong Social organization, social pressure like the one we had in new york, 400,000 persons marching that the peoples climate march. That is more important than what you can do lot being here. What we need to do is not only ,ave a march like in new york the peoples, march the said, take action, but we have to be more concrete. What kind of action do we want . , we areissues here pressing about Greenhouse Gas emissions, that we dont discuss destructive industries, about also fuels that has to be left under the soil. So how are you going to act with Climate Change if you only discuss the issue of temperature, but not the issue of the fossil fuels . What about these Extractive Industries. You know from your home country, morales, evo overwhelmingly reelected, talking about Health Clinics and economy being improved, but isnt that coming from sort of runaway Extractive Industries . The money that has gotten from the fossil fuel industry and from extracting minerals from the soil, something, especially the indigenous people, arched gently angry about. We see the same thing happening with president correa in ecuador. Think youagree and have to move away from Extractive Industries in bolivia and ecuador and all over the world if we want to affect Climate Change. And of president morales is going to believe the defense of mother earth and the rights of mother earth, you have to have a transition to get out of extractive [indiscernible] forannot base our economy extractivists. This is something that has to change in the case of bolivia. Now theyre talking about fracking in bolivia. I think this is a new danger. Yes, there is a contradiction between what is said and what is done. And it is time to change this. And progressive government should really do what they say in practice. Today, john kerry, surprised many, came out on twitter he was coming here. The first u. S. Secretary of state to come here since Hillary Clinton in 2009 in copenhagen. Foreign ministers are here. Theyre preparing for the big opening ceremony. Ban kimoon at 10 00 this morning. What do you have decided john kerry and president obama on this issue . That they should not do too little, too late. The cousin that is really what because that is really what theyre bringing here, it will not save the planet. T can damage lives to make it in perspective, they say, but were doing something. If you have a child and this ofld needs 1000 milligrams an antibiotic and you say, ok, were going to do something. Were going to give him 100 milligrams. But you are not going to save him with 100 milligrams, because he needs 1000. We are not saying theyre not a littleittle, but would not save a child. In this case, it would not save lives as we know it on planet earth. I think john kerry coming here and obama will probably be in paris next year, to try to show something that we know is not going to solve the issue of Climate Change. We will leave it there, pablo , but were certainly not leaving it. We will be at the yuan Climate Summit all week. Olivias former ambassador to the United Nations. Now is in bangkok, usually, except for here in lima executive director of focus on , the global south. We end with the voices of people speaking out just behind us, actions that are taking place around the issue of Climate Change. I am from chile. Every year in the philippines, it is hit by a typhoon. That are notons affecting the urgency that is needed. Reflecting china justice climate justice. They are avoiding the commitment. I am rachel from new zealand. What is happening in new zealand around Climate Change . The government is not having ambitious enough climate policy, so we are considering to lobby them to consider upping their ambition. What group are you with . Im here on my own. You can model a to lima, peru from new zealand . Why . I think it is important that someone is keeping an eye on our government. Some people at home know what is happening. I am originally from zimbabwe. Climate change is affecting africa in every way, in our daily lives, some areas dont food to eat. There are flights. Some are affected by the negotiations and the fact that we speak about mitigation and adaptation, but actually, there is no willingness to put money into adaptation funds. And we find families and Peoples Still with problems around flooding and theres no help to alleviate poverty and those problems. People speaking in solidarity with the people of the philippines hit by typhoon philippines hit by typhoon hagupit over the weekend, musi rrat 199he natnal galler of artn washington sir anthvan dyckfheeaf thee wi an extraoinary exhibition gather from collections around t world