And that a philadelphia cheese steak should be hailed as the new king cheers and applause for more this just in jill stein now saying a cheese steak king would not make a good ruler and we should overthrow him and end his gooey, meaty rang meatyf terror. Breaking news, jill stein has been enshrined in a vat of cheese whiz. All hail, we live to serve you stephen welcomes Jason Bateman, Padma Lakshmi and Michael Lewis, featuring jon batiste and stay human. And now live on tape in the ed sullivan theater in new york city, its Stephen Colbert cheers and applause stephen hey watch out, baby cheers and applause whoa how are ya hey welcome to the late show. Im Stephen Colbert. Im so excited to be here tonight with you guys. Its an amazing crowd tonight. cheers and applause even better than the crowd last night, i hosted the Kennedy Center honors last night, its going to broadcast december 28th, right . Something like that. Check your local listings, but only cbs. Going to be on cbs. And its a huge honor to be there. You know, because youre there with all these art ition artists. They have the rainbow ribbons, the Kennedy Center, the first lady is there. Youre backstage with the legends because its legends honoring legends. Last night i got to meteringo star meet ringo starr cheers and applause thats exactly what i said when i saw him do you know what he says to everybody he sees whether an individual or a crowd . He says this laughter jon two deuce stephen he does this to everybody. And youre, like, okay, peace and love. Im right next to him and im, like, ive got to introduce myself to ringo starr. I turned to him and said, ringo, what an honor. Im hosting tonight. He said, oh, look, what do we have here, its Stephen Colbert. He knew my name i couldnt believe it cheers and applause a beetle a beetle knew my name he goes, whats it been, like 20 years . laughter and i said, yeah yeah, its been about 20 years. And we have never met. But in my moment of glory, i didnt want to contradict ringo starr. Jon yeah. Stephen and we were on stage later together at the end of show, they were honoring the eagles. The show ends with life in the fast lane, they tear down the house, tall guys are on stage, steve is out there, bob sieger is there. I believe were all ready for the resiegerence. Hes just ripping his way through life in the fast lane, and ringo doesnt have a tambourine, i dont think he has a mic, hes dancing on the stage doing this laughter but everybodys so happy to be on stage with ringo, that im just going to back to him, hey whats going on . Whoo cheers and applause thank you. Anyway, the point of my story, is after last night, i think im the fifth beetle. I think i might be. cheers and applause whats this say . Lets see, what else . Other than me meeting ringo, whats the big story today . Oh, the big story this weekend is that donald trump created an international oopsy daisy by getting on the phone with taiwan president tsai ingwen. Whats wrong with that . Hey, how you doing . What are you wearing . Thats inappropriate laughter heres the thing, the u. S. Doesnt recognize taiwan as being an independent nation because china views taiwan as a renegade province. Basically, its like if cheers refused to acknowledge that frasier had become its own show. laughter applause thats not you, right . Okay. And for a variety of military and economic reasons, the u. S. Has gone along with it since jimmy carter. Now, since they both speak chinese, he wasnt sure which was which. So heres an easy way for donald trump to remember which china we talk to. Sir, its the one where they make your ties. cheers and applause thats easy. Hey did you like it . Made in america. So its kind of a big deal. In fact, the exchange touched the most sensitive spot for chinas Foreign Policy. No surpise. Donald trump has a long history of sensitive spottouching, and cheers and applause when this blew up, trump explained it. Tweeting the president of taiwan called me today to wish me congratulations on winning the presidency. Thank you yeah, she called him but how are all these rogue World Leaders getting his private number . Has he posted flyers all over the world promising to teach you guitar . I dont know whats going on, but hell apparently take any congratulatory call, and it doesnt matter who its from. Mr. Trump, we have a couple of well wishers on the phone, robert mugabe, joran van der sloot, and the guy who shot harambe. Put him through. Put him through. Put him through. Good guy. Jon whoa. Really . Harambe, thats where you draw the line . Really . Harambe . laughter now, china is giving trump the benefit of the doubt, with the Chinese Foreign minister calling it, a shenanigan by the taiwan side. Gnaw, i dont know about you ive never heard of a single shenanigan. Its usual more than one. They usually travel in pairs. Its shenanigans. Theyre breeding pairs, that how you get more than one shenanigan. If its just one shenanigan, i hope it doesnt escalate into a hijink. cheers and applause now, some reports say this wasnt a random phone call that trump took, upsetting our nuclear rival. Some say it was planned for months in advance. So if you were worried that trump might accidentally start world war iii, cheer, up he might be doing it on purpose. laughter meanwhile, here in the homeland, trump continues to make cabinet appointments by accepting facebook friend requests. laughter applause its a system. A system. The point is, a system is in place. Theres a process. Click today, he named former neurosurgeon and current coma patient ben carson to be laughter applause appointed ben carson to be secretary of housing and urban development. This is surprising because, just a few weeks ago, carson made it clear he wasnt qualified to run a federal agency. But today carsons spokesman explained that he is perfect for housing and urban development because he did spend part of his childhood in public housing. Yes audience reacts so get ready for our next Surgeon General someone who has been to the doctor. applause cheers and applause and last week, at the first of his victory rallies, trump teased the crowd with a major cabinet announcement. I dont want to tell you this because i want to save the suspense for next week. Dont let it outside of this room, you promise . Raise your hand, promise. Stephen oh, i promise. Cross my heart, and hope to die. Now, trump did eventually get around to making an announcement, and it was worth the wait. We are going to appoint mad dog mattis as our secretary of defense. cheers stephen okay. A secretary of defense with the nickname mad dog does not make me feel safer. Youve got a president with no experience at Foreign Policy with his finger on the button, and the other person in the room is a guy named mad dog. Thats not a secretary of defense, thats the sidekick on a morning zoo. I dont want a secretary of defense mad dog mattis, or secretary of state hair trigger harrison. I want c. I. A. Director cool cat covington and joint chief of staff general willing to project American Power but surprisingly rational about it robinson. cheers and applause and mad dog certainly earned his nickname. Listen to some of his advice be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet. this quote and more can be found in mattis selfhelp book howi to win friends and murder them. Weve got a great show for you tonight. Jason bateman is here. But when we return, weve got a new game to play. You could win big money. So stick around. cheers and applause is that coffee . Yea, its nespresso. I want in. Youre ready. Get ready to experience a cup above. Is that coffee . Nespresso. What else . Thonly once a yeargh saturday at kohls friends and family save a little more with an extra 25 off so you can give a little more this holiday. Its time to get cozy so bundle up for the Tree Lighting spread some Holiday Cheer and give a cozy nights sleep. Kohls. The full value of your totaled new car. The guy says, you picked the wrong insurance plan. No, i picked the wrong Insurance Company. With new car replacement™, well replace the full value of your car plus depreciation. Liberty mutual insurance. cheers and applause stephen welcome back. cheers and applause folks, give it up for not a great band but the greatest band on television, jon batiste and stay human come on cheers and applause jon thank you stephen folks, i gotta tell you, we have a fantastic show for you tonight. We have an amazing show for you tonight. Also super excited about tomorrow nights show. Please, be here, out there, when i will be talking to Vice President joe biden sitting in that chair right there. Got a lot to talk about. cheers and applause there is so much to talk about. Especially we need to talk about the Charity Basketball game that jon and i are going to play against Vice President biden and president obama. All right . cheers and applause im excited. I can announce this, right . It is a go. Jon and i will play the president and Vice President in a game of Charity Basketball. So far, jon and i have committed. applause laughter and i didnt want to button hole the Kennedy Center honors last night. It would not be appropriate. You talk about that, yeah. Stephen but i could see it in his eyes, hes probably in. Jon he probably wants to do it. Stephen its for charity. Jon for the kids. Stephen its for the children jon yeah. Stephen we dont know what children or why, but we know the charity is for children or former children. laughter jon oh, right former children. Stephen everybody was once a little boy or girl, right . Jon everybody cheers and applause stephen tomorrow night well get the whole thing settled with sobbed tomorrow night and they will commit and help the kids. I would hate to think they wouldnt want to help the kids. Jon oh, man. Stephen that would be bad. Stephen you dont want to throw away all that good will in the last month with not having the charity thing with you and me. Jon yeah. Stephen theyre athletes. Jon they can play. Stephen i know the president can play. Biden looks like hes got ball. And between the two of us, e. R. A greatth youre a great athlete, im not an athlete and that averages out to an athlete. Jon thats correct one athlete stephen well be right back cheers and applause we have your fingerprints soon the safe. , a photo of you opening the safe. A post using the hashtag justrobbedthesafe so, what are we supposed to think . Switching to geico could save you a bunch of money on Car Insurance. Excellent point. Case dismissed. Geico. Because saving fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance woo because saving fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance is always a great answer. Hashtag stuffy nose. Hashtag no sleep. Hashtag mouthbreather. Just put on a breathe right strip. It instantly opens your nose up to 38 more than Cold Medicine alone. Shut your mouth and say goodnight mouthbreathers. Breathe right. look at these old navy pajamas. You are all welcome. Homemade hors doeuvres . Uh nobody cares. As i was saying, before my sister rudely interrupted, i dont know why im so disgustingly generous. By giving you guys luxurious pajamas from old navy. Awe thank you. I dont want to make you feel bad but i was like. You told me that the entire store was up to 60 off at old navy. Shut your mouth. Those pants were seven bucks. New game truth or dare should i crawl around like a cat . Meow. Meow. cheers and applause stephen welcome back, everybody my first guest tonight is a golden globe winning actor, and he is damn funny. He now stars in Office Christmas party. Now, you can leave the santa suit in the at tick. Why . Because im an adult and dressing up as santa claus would be embarrassing. Hey, unless youre doing it for charity. Then its then its yum sorry tell dad that i put me down for five bucks, okay . Stephen please welcome Jason Bateman cheers and applause cheers and applause they do that for every guest. They do that for every single guest. Stephen they do not. There is not a standing o for everybody. Hot seats. Stephen we had a little moment there. Very nice. Shook hands, felt it, went in for the hug. I saw it in your eyes. Im not going to run from it. Stephen a lot of people said i have very needy eyes. Theyre huggy eyes, to me. Stephen well, hey, Merry Christmas. Can we do Merry Christmas . Whats today . Stephen december something. The 25th . Stephen no. But were in advent. Were on our way. Were on the glide path to christmas right now. Youre promote ago movie called Office Christmas party. You brought the jingle bells with you. cheers and applause you got the Office Christmas party movie and managed to get a december release. That is key. Yeah. Stephen doesnt play as well in february. No, it doesnt. But, yeah, no, its a very good movie. Go see it. Got that out of the way. Stephen well get to it. Well get to it . Lets run a clip stephen do we have another clip . Theres a good one of me with santa claus. Stephen thats a really good one. Hey, i havent seen the movie and i love it. You dont get b. S. On the show. Stephen i wont blow the Secondhand Smoke up your as. I like the firsthand up my as. Stephen really . I find the second hand is a little more filter, smoother. Sure. Stephen but the guy you swipe the card on the santa claus there, is that hi jinx or shenanigan. Shenanigan. Stephen does santa take your number and go on a rampage . No, but good idea for the seek well. The mazel tov march. laughter stephen one of the things that christmas barters do you go to Christmas Parties, by the way, in your business . I have been. Theyre holiday parties out in los angeles. Stephen oh. You cant say christmas out there. Stephen Christmas Parties back east, my friend. Yeah. cheering you have a very godfearing audience right there. I love this. Stephen were getting ready for the trump presidency. Its going to be Merry Christmas 365 days of the year. Always christmas in the trump presidency, my friend. applause do you guys have a holiday mixer here . Stephen do we call ate Christmas Party . We have a winter festival. But we have a Christmas Party a week from thursday. Youre going to get sued by somebody jewish. Stephen what . It needs to be a Holiday Party or else stephen oh, we also have a Hanukkah Party. Oh, well, that sounds expensive to have two parties. I love my Holiday Party. Stephen do we have a Hanukkah Party . Im being told im lying. laughter okay, so, but they can cause trouble, holiday parties. Have you had trouble at a Holiday Party . There was a section of my life when i drank into a lot of trouble, which one can do. I dont know if you guys have experienced with alcohol, but a lot of mistakes can happen. Stephen its the devils gatorade. laughter is it in you . Is that new tonight . Have you used that a before. Stephen no, never before. Were all going to take that into our lives. The devils gatorade. We have to give stephen credit for that stephen Merry Christmas, happy holidays. applause so ive lost my privileges. Stephen so you dont go to holiday parties . No, i just go and drink this water stuff. Stephen sure. Im actually much better at conversation that way, so i hear. Stephen you dont remember the next morning. I throw up a lot less on peoples jackets. Stephen thats nice. And, boy, a bunch of likely bad, dirty jokes come to mind. But, yes, i go stephen cbs. He said it, not me. I go to as many parties as i get invited to. Stephen do you want to come to our Christmas Party . Do you want to come to ours . A week from thursday. Do you want to come . Yes, please. Stephen well, great, we wont start the party till you get there, jason. Do you give a gift to your crew. Stephen i get everybody a gift yeah,. Are they good gifts, guys . Stephen are they good gifts . Yeah. Stephen wow. Wow i mean, its only year two of the show im ramping up im ramping up ive got to get way better gifts now ive got to go to target right now. Everybody gets a car . Im saying a nice card. Stephen oh, a nice card. That has jingle bells when you open it up, things like that . Guys, you would like that. Stephen you have kids, right . I have two little girls, ten and about to be five. Stephen christmas is perfect for you. Yeah. Stephen do you have holiday traditions with the youngens . Just trying to get them the right gift so i dont get any nonsense that i missed the mark. Stephen what do they want . You never know. Its a moving target with those two. Stephen do you do the letter to santa . We do the letter to santa. You dont have a lot of 10yearolds who watch the show, do you . Stephen i do. I have the mental state of a 10yearold, so well, then ill ask you, are you aware of santa and his legitimacy . Stephen yes, i understand that there are forces of darkness in the world who question his legitimacy. Okay. applause stephen but yes, Jason Bateman, there is a santa claus, okay . cheers and applause there is . Stephen so lets imagine for a moment that you had to explain so, so santas got a good size on him, right . Santas famously stephen hes a hefty guy. Well, lets be kind. Hes warm. Travels in the north, got to keep it big is that yeah. So this notion that he comes down the chimney, right stephen yeah. Starts to kind of strain the laws of physics for a 10yearold. 9yearolds are going to buy that. 8yearolds are going to buy that. 10yearolds, if youve got them in a Decent School laughter theyre going to start to work with a look of betrayal when they look at their parents. Stephen we live in an apartment, lets say. At an apartment thats right how do they do that there . Stephen comes through the ventilation. Thats how it works. Its a handshake with the doorman in the city here, right . Stephen oh, yeah, in the city, santa great deals the doormans hand, you know what i mean . He gives him a finner and he goes so out in los angeles, theres a whole bunch of chimney b. S. So frannie, whos the tenyearold, shes not dumb and shes starting to look at me like this is straining the limits of what shes willing to buy. So we got her a bike a couple of years ago, and i thought, well, for some reason, she might buy a big fat guy coming down the chimney, maybe he brings lubricant or whatever hes got to do laughter i dont know right . Hang on laughter stephen were almost out of time here, jason. I did mention cbs, right . I mentioned cbs at one point in this conversation. Dude, to get down the chimney stephen i understand i understand. So we got her a bike and, you know, it does come with its own grease, but its still not going to come down the chimney. So what i did is put it outside because i figured she would call b. S. On that. So i put it outside. This doesnt have a very funny ending, so get ready. Stephen i heard this story. Its fantastic. I love how it ends. So i put it outside. I had to get fire wood for the fireplace because santas done with his lube job on it. laughter applause and im, like and i said, hey, theres a bike out here you clearly cant get a bike down a chimney, honey, so he left it out side. It sunk in because obviously he couldnt bring a bike down there but old greasy santa could slide down there stephen and thats why i believe in santa makes total sense to me thanks for reinforcing all our belief in st. Nicholas. See what kind of terrible father i am . Stephen no, youre a wonderful father. cheers and applause Office Christmas party in theaters nationwide this friday im going to go see it Jason Bateman, everybody well be right back with Padma Lakshmi cheers and applause enjoy your phone you too. All right, be cool. You got the amazing new iphone 7 on the house by switching to at t. What . . Aand you got unlimited data because you have directv . . laughs to self in disbelief okay, just a few more steps. 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Dulcolax, designed for dependable relief cheers and applause stephen hey welcome back, everybody my next guest tonight is a food expert, model, bestselling author and host of top chef, please welcome Padma Lakshmi cheers and applause hi, jon batiste cheers and applause hi, everybody very exciting to be here. Stephen oh, excited to have you here so big in real life. Stephen its lovely. I tell you what im excited about, top chef is in my hometown of charleston, south carolina. Had you been there before . I had never been there before. Stephen what do you think of my hometown . What am i going to say . I dont like it . I loved your hometown. I spent over six weeks there and it was a pleasure to be there. I consider it an honor i was able to go there because ive lived in new york and los angeles but ive never really traveled to other parts of the country and thats one of the beautiful things ability being on top chef. Stephen well, there is no other part of the country like charleston, south carolina. Yes, and the men are very beautiful, by the way. They are. Theyre very beautiful. I dont know what they feed you down there, but its working. Stephen a lot of shrimp. Now, youve also got a new book called the encyclopedia of spices and herbs. Yes. Stephen okay. Blow my mind about a spice. What is the spice that none of us are using that we should be . Okay, i would say there are many. One that comes to mind is green mango powder . Exude me . Green mango powder. Its this magic. Juju that willmake everything. Its been dried in the sun and looks like a beige sawdust color. Stephen what do i do with the green mango powder. You put it in everything. It is the ingredient no one will be able to pick out that will be the m. S. G. Of your dish. Stephen sweet, savory . Its sour because its mango. So it gives you a tartness without adding moisture. Stephen youre assuming my knowledge of mango beyond i apologize for my knowledge of mangos is not what it should be. For instance, i put a pinch in my crust when im dredging my Fried Chicken in the flor with cayenne. Stephen what . yes, i do. Stephen where can i get green mango powder . Most indian markets. There is a beautiful spice store thats been around for years in new york. Filet powder is what people use in gumbo down south. Its a beautiful ingredient. Stephen have you added any filet powder in your gumbo, jon . Jon oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah. applause stephen well, my lack of filet powder means im not as american as i should be. laughter how did you learn this about spices and herbs . This is a 350page book. How Much Research did you do . A lot. I had a great researcher and editor who is credited on the book who helped me. But as i was traveling the world as a model, i would learn about all the spices. Every town i went, i would go to the local food markets and learn about them. Im from india but i grew up in the states. Spiels are basic to life. I remember being four years old and playing with spiels. So now spices, so now i happen to make a living out of it. Stephen how did your mother like you playing the spices . They didnt like it. I would climb the shelves like a monkey and try to get at the chiles. They didnt want a 4yearold doing that. Stephen you have a new book thats a him wire of your life. It is a memoir of my life. Actually, there is some pretty juicy stuff in there, yeah. Stephen whats the juiciest part . You will have to wait for the sequel. Stephen what about in here . In here . There is lots of stuff in there. I dont want to ruin it for people. But there is a lot of stuff. You know, i stephen are there pictures . There are no pictures there are no pictures and, stephen, the words go to the end of the page. Stephen the words go you really wrote the hell out of this thing laughter i like my cookbooks which are much easier. It took me five years to write that book. When i got the contract from my publisher, it was supposed to be a book about Healthy Eating using my personal life to illustrate examples about philosophies i had about food. But in the writing, i kept going deeper and deeper and at one point i said i dont know where the hell im going. My publisher said keep writing, youre an interesting woman and will do an interesting book. I said, im losing sight of the food. He says, ah, nobody cares about that. Stephen the spice is where its at. Lovely to see you again. cheers and applause Padma Lakshmi, everybody well be right back one of the best storytellers i know. Michael lewis, stick around a lot of people have vertical blinds. Well, if a lot of people jumped off a bridge, would you . You hungry . Im okay right im. Im becoming my, uh, mother. 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Thonly once a yeargh saturday at kohls friends and family save a little more with an extra 25 off so you can give a little more this holiday. Its time to get cozy so bundle up for the Tree Lighting spread some Holiday Cheer and give a cozy nights sleep. Kohls. cheers and applause stephen hey, everybody welcome back, ladies and gentlemen cheers and applause folks, my next guest is the bestselling author of the blind side, moneyball and the big short. His latest book, the undoing project, is so new it hasnt even been made into a movie yet. Please welcome Michael Lewis cheers and applause stephen nice to see you. Good too see you. Pleasure to be back. Stephen happy to have you here. Youre one to have the best explainers in the world. I need something explained to me, youre the person i want to have to do it. Explain something to me if you dont mind. Stock market closed at an alltime high, 19,216 and some change, okay . People are talking about a trump bump. Why and what is it . Do you have any these are . Ive given this a shot but stephen people were afraid it would dump but there is been a bump. And nobody knew it was going to happen, right . So one of the things my book is about not to get to my book right away. Well come back to it, i know. Stephen well just get to it. Its called the undoing project. cheers and applause i wasnt trying to plug the book, but actually stephen i want to plug the book. One of the things its about is the way people explain what they couldnt predict. So nobody saw this coming. Nobody saw the stock market going up a thousand points, but the same people who didnt see it coming will tell you exactly why it was inevitable. So they can now explain it because they dont want to look like fools. The same people who are explaining why, oh, yes, it was going to go up a thousand points, if it crashed tomorrow would also have an explanation of why that was inevitable. Stephen so we dont need an economic model, we need a time machine. What you need is not to spend much attention listening to people who are trying to explain to you why the stock market went up or down because they dont know. Stephen explain something to me. The the undoing project book. Yes. Stephen what was undone in the undoing project and who did it . Who undid it . So there are a couple of things here. So the book is about this is a conversation stopper. Two israeli psychologists. Stephen walk into a bar yeah, yeah, right. laughter so amos tversky and Daniel Kahneman kahneman won the nobel prize in economics but theyre both psychologists and amos tversky died in 1996, but they died about a love affair, they were engaged in exploring how the human mind worked when making judgments and decisions in an unemotional state. When people thought they were being rational, what were they doing . The undoing project itself was the project they were working on when the love affair busted up. It was their name for the project. Specifically what they were looking at at the time, they were trying to delineate the rules of the human imagination, and the way they were getting at it was looking at the way people undid a tragedy. Daniel kahneman, one of the characters stephen how they dealt with the emotion of the tragedy . They say, in a way, it starts with Daniel Kahnemans nephew, two days away from being released from the Israeli Air Force flying upside down and being killed. Danny notices everybody saying if only, if only he had been released two days earlier. If only the flare hadnt gone up and blinded him. But they didnt say, if only there wasnt an Israeli Air Force. There were particular ways they undid the tragedy. He thought the way people undo tragedies might be the way to explore how the human imagination works and how it creates other realities. So how do you undo the most recent president ial election . You saw this happening after the election. If only comey hadnt released the emails. Nobody said if only trump was born a girl. That would have done it. I mean right . cheers and applause stephen would have been the best, though. Would have been beautiful. It would have been beautiful. Stephen a ten. A ten. Huge stephen yuge. Yeah, would have been yuge. Stephen so what does that say about how we deal . So thats the narrow answer. They were working to try to figure out the tway human imagination created alternative realities. They never finished the work. What they were doing more broadly, the reason i seized upon it it as a book title, is they were undoing the human nature that we were basically good and rational in our choices. Stephen so were not rational. No, were not. Stephen can we become rational . Or is that even a good goal . No, its interesting. They were saying that i think their work shows, something very deep about human nature. Theyre wired for certain kinds of infallibility and rationalities. We can check ourselves. We can find ways to sort of govern our intellects, but we will make mistakes, systematically, not just oneoff mistakes, so that, as a result, markets can make mistakes, elections can get screwed up. They were pointing at the way the human mind leads itself astray in the same way that, say, their optical illusions they were describing cognitive illusions, the way peoples minds stephen can computers help us make a rational decision or is that a mistake because the robots will raise up and enslave us . They may be gentle masters laughter stephen god, i hope so. It isnt necessarily a dark outcome. Stephen michael, thank you so much for being here. The undoing project in stores cheers and applause stephen hey, that does it for the late show, everybody tune in tomorrow when my guests will be Vice President joe biden and d. J. Khaled. Stick around for james corden and his guests gael garcia bernal, lauren cohan and john legend. Goodnight are you ready yall to have some fun feel the love tonight dont you worry bout where you come from its gonna be all right its the late, late show reggie ladies and