Transcripts For KYW Face The Nation 20141207

Could put american Intelligence Officers in danger as some officials fear. Well put all in perspective with our analysts, documentary film maker Soledad Obrien, charles blow of the New York Times, Jean Cummings of blockberg politics, David Ignatious of the washington post, gerry seib of the wall street journal former cio director. 60 years of news because this is face the nation. Captioning sponsored by cbs good morning were going to begin with the failed rescue attempt on american journalist luke somers after the Al Qaeda Group vowed to kill him. U. S. Military launched way to try to free him. It was second attempt. Somers was killed by his captives. For more on this Daring Rescue attempt well turn to cbs News National security correspondent david martin. What actually went wrong here . Lost the element of surprise. Seals had been dropped off several miles away from the compound where luke somers was being held they tried to sneak up on the compound. But when they were about a hundred yards out something, perhaps as simple as a barking dog, gave them away. Firefight broke out and during that firefight a figure, a person was seen running in to the building where sommers and another hostage were being held. And he was only in there for a few seconds. But that was long enough to turn his gun on the two captives. By the time the seals got there both men were mortally wounded, sommers and South African hostage. They had medic with them they tried to get him back to a ship off the coast of yemen, but not in time. Schieffer these things are so dangerous to start with. Do you think well continue to do this or perhaps are they too dangerous to attempt . Like the old Texas Football coach said about the passing game, when you throw the ball three things can happen. Two of them are bad. When you go on a rescue mission, you can get the guy, he can be missing or he can be killed. So the odds are against you going in. In this case they were even longer because there had been previous attempt to rescue these guys so the guards would have been on higher alert. When you know where the american is, youve been told that hes going to be executed within 24 hours, you dont have much choice. Schieffer david martin, thank you. Turn now to the other major story that is the outrage following the new york city grand jury decision not to indict officer Daniel Pantaleo after he killed 4yearold eric Garner Holding him in a chokehold following his arrest for selling cigarettes illegally. This video weve seen over and over. Mostly peaceful protests have been held across the country again from new york to seattle overnight. Well begin our coverage with the commissioner of the nova scotia city Police Department, william bratton. Commissioner bratton let me ask you, what could happen now to this officer . When do you expect the investigation in to this incident to be done, we know the grand jury has decided not to bring charges your department is looking in to it. What could happen to him and when can we expect results of your investigation. The administrative investigation which focuses on violation of policies, procedures, rules and regulations can now move forward. That is in fact occurring on friday we began interviewing Police Officers involved in that situation. We have not had access to during the criminal investigation. Our investigation may take upwards of three to now months based on past experience, number of officers, number of witnesses. It will probably conclude well ahead of the federal civil rights investigation which has just been initiated. Schieffer how did you feel, commissioner, you personally, when you saw this video and you heard him 11 times say, i cant breathe that must have been a hard thing for you as the commissioner to watch. Well, i dont think that anybody watches that is not disturbed by what they saw that policing, involving use of force, always looks awful. You have an expression, waffle. Criminal courts have decided, district attorneys, grand jury decided there were no criminal actions involved. Now see if they were in violation of our policies and procedures. Civil rights investigation were determined if there is any violations of his civil rights. Schieffer did it appear to you just looking at that video that he did use excessive force. He said he learned did what he learned at the police academy. My understanding is that was the substance of his testimony to the grand jury. I will make the final decision in the nypd move forward with internal Affairs Investigation directed by our prosecutor, the department advocate. Then be Department Trial potentially if the advocate founds there is violations. That is an open process, open trial. That trial judge will then make a finding make that finding known to me and i will make the final decision. Im in the free to comment at all on anything i observed or my feelings im going to make the final decision. Schieffer in the meantime what are you doing, i understand youre going to order some new training . What actually are you doing in regard to the rest of the department . Theres a lot happening here in new york city. We have a new Inspector General that is starting up. We have federal monitor that will be looking at violations of the stop question first practices going back to the beginning of the decade. We also have initiated prior to mr. Garners death a full retraining of all of our officers who work in the field, 22,000 officers, threeday Training Session that will be held every year thereafter. Requiring new technology, everyone of our officers be equipped with Smart Phone Technology where begun a Pilot Program on body cameras. Probably no department in america right now that is doing more on these issues. Lot of this is informed by my experience during 20022009 in los angeles where i headed up that organization responding to the federal Consent Decree after the riots of the 1990s. L. A. Is city you want to look to in terms of how all of this can elfly turn out as i was living there in 2009. L. A. Times opined in the area of Race Relations which this is all about they opined that finally a corner had been turned on race relation, is that city was probably americas most troubled city. Schieffer the head of the police union of course famously said that the mayor, your mayor threw the police under the bus when he came out made statements about this. Is this a serious riff between the mayor and Police Department and what are you doing about that . Well, at the moment we are in contract negotiations, Union President is entitled to voice his opinion, he is a member of the Police Department, he has two sons, one in the academy one is out on the street for several years. He has a perspective. This mayor, my mayor, is probably one of the best ive ever worked with. Were spending over 200 million outside our budget on new equipment, the smart phones i talked about, almost 50 million on over Time Training to get training accelerated. This is a player that has been very supportive of equipping the police to deal with many of the issues that the city is facing. Hes a progressive, certainly wants police to police constitutionally, compassionately, respectfully which is why he hired me we are shared mind. I think that comment while may reflect the attitude of the president of the union, i have Great Respect for, we have very strong difference of opinion on that comment. Schieffer all right. Commissioner, we want to thank you so much for joining us. I know you have a busy, busy day. Well turn now to the president of the naacp Cornell William brooks. Mr. Brooks, you just heard the commissioner here, are they doing enough . In one answer, no. Were looking at the tragedy of eric garner as a single incident. Its not enough. To talk about training retrospectively as opposed as to Holding People accountable retrospectively thats where we have to go. Yes, body cameras. Look at training. We have to look at fundamentally changing the culture of policing in new york city and across the country. We have to change the model of policing. In other words, we are we have Police Serving the role as Occupying Army as opposed to using a Community Policing model, thats where we have to go. Unless were talking in terms of global, comprehensive reform its not enough. We have across this country generation of young people who simply seeing that we believe based on imperical evidence, pandemic of police miss conduct. We are not a nation who put our heads in the sand. We have citizens who are rising up and saying, now is the time. Schieffer let me just ask you about these incidents that have happened. Do you think they happen by coincidence, what happened in missouri, people in new york saw that and this may have triggered the reactions there . We know what has been going on in cleveland. Is there a connection between these three things . Did they happen think by coincidence or lot of communities facing the very same problem and just all happened hat once here . As do citizens of new york, citizens across the country, we see here in terms much these incidents the Police Brutality and misconduct is part of larger, longer narrative. Where you have generations of young men who have been criminalized and arrested en masse. The point being with a policing that is predicated on essentially operating in the community not being of the community. That is fundamentally a problem. This is part of the longer narrative. We simply cant treat these as individual incidents, to be assessed in that way without talking about larger reform in terms of passing the federal racial profiling act, having a National Standard or the excessive use of force. Looking at and implementing a body camera policy and again fundamentally changing our policing model. Nothing less than that is sufficient. Schieffer let me ask you this, you know the election of barack obama many people thought that the election of our first African American president would harold in a new era in Race Relations in this country, yet that does not seem to have happened. Why do you think that is . Well, election of president barack obama may speak to our capacity as a nation. To look beyond race. It does not necessarily speak to the reality of race in this country. Racism is alive and well so as i discovered in our journey for justice across 14 miles in seven days we met people who understood that there was a problem. Also met people who put their head in to the sand. The fact of the matter is we have a generation of people, our children, who are being profiled. Those are hard core facts. One out of every four young African American men believes they have business treated in a given month, thats a tough reality. We have to be careful with it. Schieffer we still have the divide. We most certainly do. Mr. Brooks, thank you soap much for joining us. Well be back in one minute. Schieffer this week the Senate Intelligence committee is expected to issue a long expected report on the cias Interrogation Practices that were adopted in the aftermath of 9 11. This report is scheduled to be released tuesday but it is so controversial and its expected to be so explosive that secretary of state john kerry called Committee Chair Diane Feinstein last week and expressed concern that its release now could endanger american facilities overseas as well as the lives of american diplomats and Intelligence Officers. We have learned that the report which was approved only by democrats on the Committee Concludes that the cia routinely went beyond what was legally allowable in using techniques including waterboarding. It says these techniques were not effective in getting information and it alleges the agency systematically lied to itself, the white house, the department of justice and to congress about effectiveness of the program in order to keep it going. While the Committee Reports and findings are scathing, republicans on the committee and the cia reviewed almost all of the democrats conclusions and say the release of the report will have a chilling affect on intelligence gathering and will endanger lives. The controversy over what could be made public became so heated we have learned that at one point cia director john brennan threatened to resign. To help us untangle this we are joined by bob orr and former cia director Michael Hayden. Bob, i want to go to you first. We know the secretary of state did talk to chairwoman feinstein, do you think what do you know about whether she still intends to go ahead with releasing this . Shes in a tight spot. Shes not tipping her hand. Everyone weve talked to expect the report to come out tuesday if it does come out as you outlined this will be a public smack down of the cia. This essentially will accuse the agency in very Strong Language of going outside the law, doing too much without authority to try to get information from these al qaeda detainees. On top of that the committee, democrats are going to alleged that this went for no purpose. No good intelligence was gleaned. The cia will defend itself not necessarily defend the policy, but they are going to say look, we tried to stay within the bounds of the law in the shadow of 9 11 when things were very tough, we made some mistakes but in the end Real Intelligence was had. Schieffer also my understanding republicans are going to enter a report of their own in to the record and i talked to republicans last week, they are apaplectic about the impact. Senator Saxby Chandler says he is worried that lives may actually be in danger. That the facilities may be attacked when this thing gets out and he says simply not true. That the cia didnt do anything that they thought was illegal. That they went to the Justice Department and in their view of events and cia they say we were doing what we were told we could do. And they also remind us of what the circumstances were when these things were taking place. Thats exactly right. This program, the Detainee Program was in 2002 almost from zero start. The cia admits that it didnt have everything in place necessarily. Some some mistakes were made. But over time a number of very important key pieces of intelligence were gleaned and allowed the cia to take key al qaeda operatives in to custody, to pull those strings to learn more about al qaeda now than we do then. Im told that just about everything we know about the terror group al qaeda has come from the detainee and Interrogation Program in the last ten years thats valuable information b we want to go to general Michael Hayden he ran the cia from 2006 to 2009. Hes in orange county, california, this morning. General, was the cia, we know that there was waterboarding in those months after 9 11. Was that still taking place when you were the director . No. It wasnt, bob. In fact while i was director and under president bushs guidance we took waterboarding off the table. Popular story that president obama had done that, it was long gone before he became president. The last person waterboarded, total of three, was in march of 2003. Schieffer do you know of anybody from the cia in your view who lied to the congress about what was going on there or lied to people in the administration as this report is going to alleged . Of course not, bob. This program took place over multiple years and it was very complex. Senate democrat report was arguing over point a, b or c id probably still be here arguing my point ever view on each of those individual points. I would understand, though, that that was legitimate argument. But to say that we relentlessly over expanded period of time lied to everyone about a program that wasnt doing any good. Schieffer do you think the practices did do any good . Did you get information . I was a blank sheet when i went in to cia inmate may of 2006. The elephant in the room. What were we going to do with this the program. This was not my program up to that point. I was free to stop it cold. And i spent summer of 2006 looking at the facts, documents and most importantly, bob, people. I talked to analysts, i talked to in tear gators. At the end of the summer i recommended to president bush that we reduce the program, that we reduce the number of techniques, that the program had been so valuable that we couldnt stop it all together. Own though now we had so much more intelligence on al qaeda from the detainees and other sources, even then the program had proven its worth that i did not in conscience, bob, in conscience, i couldnt take it off the table. Schieffer what do you think the impact will be if in fact the report is made public this week . Multiple layers, bob, first of all the cia workforce will feel as if it has been tried and convicted in absentia since Senate Democrats and staff didnt talk to anyone actively involved in the program. Second, this will be used by our enemies to motivate people to attack americans in american facility overseas, i have genuinely concerned by that. As was the secretary of state and the director of national intelligence. Then finally, bob, there are countries out there who have cooperated with us in the war on terror at some Political Risk who were relying on american discretion. I cant imagine anyone out there Going Forward in the future who would be willing to do anything with us that even smacks of political danger. Schieffer for sure this is story that will go on. If this report is released democrats of course say the public needs to know about these things and thats their side of it. 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Please visit your nearest jay roberts jewelers location. Bob were going to continue our conversation on race and policing with Scott Thompson the chief of police in cam ben, new jersey, city that was ranked at most dangerous city of its size, things are not perfect but they are getting better. Chief, id just like to ask you as we talk about this situation in general, what are you doing differently there in camden . Well, bob, may 1, 2013, we established new Police Department. What arguably one of the most challenged cities in terms of crime, poverty and social inequities. In less than 24 months we began remarkable transformation of taking streets that were once controlled by criminals and drug dealers now being occupied by children riding their bicycles and families enjoying the front steps. We did this in manner without militarizing neighborhoods or polarizing the community. We established culture from very early on that relationship that we bind us with our people was one based upon Building Community first and enforcing the law second. Schieffer did you get rid of any police that were on the force because basically what youve done you made the city and county in to one police unit as it were, did that mean discharging some of the people you had in the original force there . Well, every member of the organization is a new member of the organization including myself. Essentially we 155 were hired, we suffered through some significant attrition prior to that. But the transformation that we were able to do enabled us to connect with our people. And to establish the fact that cops are going to perform as guardians not as warriors the results weve seen, we have cut shootings and murders in half in less than 24 months. Schieffer if you had to pick out one single thing that you would say to other departments around the country, this is the thing that worked for us. What would it be, chief . Human Contact Officers walking the beat getting out of their squad cars, nothing builds trust like human contact there. Is no replacement for it. When we launched our organization we had officers going up and down the streets knocking on doors, talking to the residents, asking them things that matter most to them. Then we will work with you to address that. We cant have our only interaction with the public be moments of crisis. Need to have interaction with the public all throughout the day and not just when times are bad. Schieffer what about the equipment question, do you think these cameras on each Police Officer will that help things . I think its a start. I believe that the cameras are the wave of the future. What is key in all of this, what we were seeing now is for the police to be able to function efficiently, effectively need the consent of the people. And what were hearing now is that theres issues. Its a critical moment for Law Enforcement for us to not circle our wagons to get defensive position but to keep our ears and our minds open. And move forward in a way that has a collective, universal agreement of how the Justice System operates. Schieffer chief, thank you for being with us this morning. I also want to wish you the very best, it sounds like youre making some progress there, not many communities in the country right now who can say that. Keep it up. Thanks so much. I want to turn now to Soledad Obrien the executive producer and director of black and blue which is part of her black in america series focuses on the new york city Police Department and eric garner case. You, soledad, used this incident in new york as to set the stage for this documentary to survey what is going on in america. What did you find . You know, its interesting, even though the killing of eric garner opens our documentary, i think anybody who thinks that what is happening right now is only about eric garner or only about michael brown, is really missing what is happening in black america. What is fascinating to hear the chief talk about what theyre focused on. He has build community, talks about culture, talked about transforming how you interact with people. That you actually realizing is that retraining, talked about cameras. Its a different philosophy. African americans feel they are treat differently in the criminal Justice System. There is aggressive targeting of black people that doesnt happen in White Communities. Its thatting aer over so many years that really percolating up now. Schieffer do you think that is a valid feeling that they are being treat differently . Look at the statistics. If you look in new york stop and frisk measures between these are Police Members we looked at them. Between 2002 and 2012 there were five million. 8 were blacks and latinos. 90 of those people who were stopped, 90 , that did not move on to an arrest even to a summons. Those people had done nothing. 90 of the blacks and latinos that were stopped in stop and frisk new york city didnt do anything. Imagine what that does to a culture if you fit the description, which means youre a black male 1925. Schieffer were mows of the stops, were those in high crime areas . Often in high crime areas, absolutely. Schieffer you wouldnt see that as justification that you might operate differently in areas where there are lots of crimes than areas where there are relatively the challenge is that its not being applied proportionally. For example, you have if you are arresting and stopping people who are many havent done anything you create a culture in that community, even high crime community, where people feel like they are being criminalized even those that we saw in our documentary who havent done anything. Young man who talked to us had been stopped a hundred times at least. He was stopped, his professors walking by, his classmates going by. At some point it becomes very damaging to these individuals but also to community that understands, this is unfair. Schieffer i saw one interesting it was interesting to me, you highlight that one major problem you say is putting rookie cops in neighborhoods that theyre not from. Its not even that theyre not from necessarily, i think youre putting rookie cops in neighborhoods that are these high crime neighborhoods. We were out in the street ip some of the dangerous neighborhoods three days after the rookie cops had been brought on to the force. Schieffer somehow almost like School Teachers where people say you ought to put your best teachers in the worst schools not in the best schools. Most experienced. Exactly. I asked commissioner bratton about that he used the word, think of it as a surge, which is military term, if you will. I think that what theyre trying to do now in the Police Department, the nypd match the rookies with people who are more experienced. Overwhelm an area but with people who are experienced, that has been problematic. Schieffer what is the one thing that you would say to people about, after doing this work looking at the problem, what needs to be done here . With is the most important thing to do . Understanding. We did our first black in america documentary, we talked to families, tell me about the conversation which is, the conversation they had with their 11 or 12yearold son not about how to deal with the police. White people would say, i tell my children they should be respectful of the police. Black people say i teach my son how to survive an interaction with the police regardless of socioeconomic status. That is problematic. That i think is at the core of the marchs and anger that weve seen. Schieffer Soledad Obrien. Nice to have you with us. Well be back in a minute. Schieffer these days theres no shortage of things to analyze. To do some of that well are are to welcome New York Times columnist charles blow to the broadcast, joined by David Ignatious, Jean Cummings, senior ed or of Bloomberg Politics and gerry seib the Washington Bureau chief. I want to start interest this business of race. Jean, bloomberg has a when asked if Race Relations have gotten better or worse under barack obama the first black president. 53 of those polls said they have gotten worse. When you break it down further, 56 of whites said relations have gotten worse as did 45 of blacks. Are we going backwards here when it comes to race relation . I think it depends on which community youre in. For the black community im not sure that they saw whole lot of improvement. They were hoping, very hopeful for improvement. I think when we look at our prior polls the White Communities numbers moved substantially to say that things have deteriorated in recent times. But in general, theres not a huge difference between the two. Both communities now believe that things have deteriorated. And that division is evident also when we polled where the public is on nonverdicts in ferguson and new york. In ferguson slight majority, 52 agree with that decision. That is driven by majority of whites. In new york it is both communities view it as unacceptable that decision is unacceptable. In both cases about 9 of the black community they reject those of the decisions by the grand juries not to indict. This could be evidence that that camera is important because in new york people could see what happened. In ferguson, there is debate about what happened. Schieffer charles, get back to this first finding here that Race Relations are worse under a black president than they were under a white president. What do you make of that . Well, at least theyre saying thats what people are saying. But you have a causal relationship. Because of him something that he has done or is it the reaction to him actually being the president , which is not really about him but about us. I think that is the bigger question, bigger philosophical question as to how do we respond to people who do not look like us. Do we believe that they have our interest at heart. Do we believe that we can identify and empathize with that person. If we cannot, exacerbate what already exists in terms of bias how we see Race Relations in this country. Thats a real question that we have to ask ourselves about who we are and whether or not things were in fact better before this president and just were underneath the surface. Schieffer david, i dont mean to suggest that its Barack Obamas fault. I found that stunning that this would be the finding that a lot of people say that things are worse now than they were. Sociologists talk about a revolution of rising expectations. Where because of changes, election of the first African American president. Having eric holder as our attorney general. People expect things are changing then when they see evidence in these cases where young unarmed black men are being shot and people who shoot them are not being indicted theres a special anger because people thought things were getting better. Thought with this African American president it would be different. That is part whats behind it. Sense of disappointment. America mass had race issues, its a continuum in our national story. I wonder if the explosion of anger doesnt have to do with people saying it should have been better because of the changes we thought the country made in electing barack obama. Schieffer and its not. Here is this problem. How many years have we heard about driving while black, an experience that African Americans have. Do we really react, really take it in say, okay, if thats true, so many seem take that, what do do you different about it . Gerry, wall street journal had great forum last week you talked to a lot of top news makers including jeb bush among other people. Just ask you this, attorneys holder is expected to announce new racial profiling guides this week. Since racial profiling is already illegal, supposedly, as you were talking to these news makers last week did you get any feeling about what the impact of this is going to be . Its funny because i think everybody has this sense that weve been talking about around the table here, which is one of frustration. Like, why cant we get this right. What has gone wrong . There is racial profiling as the law applies to it and racial profiling as it works on the ground in american society. In Law Enforcement circles, what i was struck by as we had these conversations inability for anybody to get their arms around this subject. We were talking about the president. What is striking to me you can sense his frustration when he talks about this. Not only can i not figure out how to stop this i may be actually having a more difficult time as nations first African American president , hes acutely aware he cant be seen only as that he has to be seen as president of all americans. May make it more difficult for him he has to keep reminding us, i cant put my finger on the scales of justice. A lot of people share the same frustration that he shares. Certainly when we talk to the people that participated in our poll and this is the first of several stories that will be coming out this week. Even both white and black respondents on the poll felt like there was more the president could have done. Mr. Blow, i want to ask you about Something Else. That is this Intelligence Committee report that is coming out. Maybe those of us in washington become more intrigued by this than people in the rest of the country. This thing sounds like, if it is made public and obviously theres a lot of politics at play here. Do you think its going what kind ever impact do you think its going to have . Theres a lot of worries about whether or not it will put lives in danger. I do believe that the American People have real desire to know, i kind of always err on the side of right to know. And not that i want to put anybodys life in danger, but i do believe that American People want to know. I think its important to have it. Schieffer is it important that this come out david or what do you think i think the facts about what happened during this really horrifying period which we used extreme techniques should come out. Argument that is made by people who read this draft both former cia officers and republicans who were on the committee is that its not a fair rendering of the facts. And for that reason they are troubled by it. I struck by unusual situation where you have representatives of the administration, the yia director, john kerry secretary of state plus members of the other party on congress joining to say, we have real misgivings about this. I think its going to happen this week, almost whatever worries people have it will happen well get through it. Schieffer you talked to jeb bush, he said get nomination you may not be able. Number one, do you think hes going to looked like somebody who wants to run. I dont think hes crossed that final bridge which is make sure your family on board which is what he said. But i asked him, he leaned forward he said im thinking about running for president and im going to decide soon. In a way that made you believe this is at the front of this. He also kind of seemed to me the other answers to be trying out an announcement speech. Here are things to do as republicans. Handful of issues. Then made this fascinating remark that you just referred to that we republicans have to be more prepared to lose the primary in order to win the election. Which is to say, dont cater to the special interests. We know there is going to be more coming on this story. Schieffer well, Something Else is coming. The british. When we come back. A remote that lives more wifi in more places. A Movie Library you can take wherever you go. Internet speeds that have gotten faster 13 times in 12 years. The innovators and inventors at comcast labs are creating more possibilities for more people every day. Comcast. Bringing media and Technology Together for you. Schieffer we welcome the british ambassador, sir peter westmacott. Thank you so much for coming. Americans need a little break in the news. Were having a lot of bad news, we have this situation now involving race thats going on. But at least were going to get a little change ever pace with a visit of Prince William and his wife, the duchess of cambridge. Most americans call her kate. Are you concerned that they may be flying in to something here with this situation weve got going in new york now that might put their security in danger . Well, i appreciate being on the show. I very much hope not. This is a visit going to take in both new york and washington. The duke will be coming to washington as well. Will be doing a number of event r events in new york we very much hope not. Obviously what is going on there is a matter of concern for those who are looking after other issues. We see no reason why the Royal Program should be affected bob you might put a damper on this visit shin way . I cant tell exactly what is going to happen from one day to the next. We hope not this is a visit which we attach great deal of importance. The mayor, the city of new york have been very supportive, very kind in helping us put together a visit which i believe will be a great success. Schieffer you know, i was thinking about this, americans have no desire to have a monarchy of their own but they seem fascinated with the British Royal family and especially these two. I wonder sometimes are they more popular in this country than they are in Great Britain . Some of my friends tell me that they regret with the monarchy. Something you rather not have done. But certainly the case that these days there is enormous affection for the royal family, i find this wherever i go across the United States. I think you are right. People focus not only on the longevity and extraordinary devotion of our queen that has been there more than 60 years but next two generation, and then of course the next generation after that. I think youre right in kate and william, have captured the hearts and imagination of people around the world. Schieffer are they treated with more reverence here than in Great Britain. Some of the press accounts there can be snarky. They can in the united kingdom. I think at the moment that the press have actually been pretty fair, balanced, constructive. They have been delighted in the way in which dutchess has in the role of the wife of the heir to the throne how how hard working she has become. I think all that is going well. Youre right. In the past sometimes had been a little bit harsh but for the moment seems to be very well. Schieffer she is pregnant again is expecting when, in april . Thats when i hear. Schieffer is it a boy or girl . If anyone does theyre not telling us. Schieffer let me ask you about some other things. How would you describe relations between United States and Great Britain right now . Of course i would say im the british ambassador. I think were in a good place. I think we have very strong relationships at the political level. Our defense organizations, Armed Services agencies, we are more closely and we have to given the threats around the world. And by International Security challenges we have. Pretty much eye to eye and shoulder to shoulder in the different theaters around the world where there needs to be international presence. Schieffer thank you so much for joining us. We hope that the visit goes well and is a big success. They will be warmly welcomed here, the duke and duchess of cambridge. Thank you so much. Schieffer well be right back. Ah, h it. Push it. P. Push it real good ow oooh baby baby. Baby baby. If youre saltnpepa, you tell people to push it. Push it real good. Its what you do. Ah. Push it. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. Ah. Push it. Im pushing. 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