Terrorism and its transformed the president ial race. Theres so many unanswered questions. Where syed farook and after thend his wife radicalized . How could no one know about ththir weapons . Was thissn isolated incident or a harbinger of future terror attacks . Well get to those question with the head of the justice department, loretta lynch. We begin with Pete Williams who has been covering from the start and the director of the national countertererrism center under both president s bush and obama. What caused the fbi to label this a terrorism incident. Theres a huge supply ofof weapons and bombs they have built. They built their bombs using instructions that are available from jihadist web sites including al qaedas online magazine inspire. They modified their assault rifles trying to make them into automatic weapons using instructions available on these online jihadist sites. Theres her facebook posts pledging support for is. Things. They attempted to destroy their electronic media, smash their cell phones knowing the fbi would come back and look at that. Then he had contact with people at that the fbi has been watching. Let me follow up that. Had contact with the fbi which leads to a question the attorney general has to answer which is how much was he on the fbis radar screen . Not contact with the fbi but contact with people that the fbi was watching from time to time. People that came up on the counterterrorism radar. They dont know the nature of the contact. They have in e eence phonene records, social media records. They say he didnt have a lot of the things the fbi looks at in analyzing these things is whats the frequency of the cocoact . Arar they reachingg out to the same networks over and over again theyll say did we miss something but at the time no red flagag were rrsed. Worst terrorist attack on u. S. Soil since 9 11 and no group is taking responsibility. How scare i have that . Its scary because it fits the isis play book perfectly. Isis may try to direct but what its trying to do is inspire so these are inspired attacks, small,solated groups wherere they are, where they live that understand the culture and understand in part how to terrorize those communities. So what would you need Resource Wise . If you had every is there enough resources you can have, the fbi could have, that could stop syed farook and his wife from doing this . This is a multifaceted plan and you dont have enough resoururs. Off huge american population, a a small, small, small subset that is radicalized and an even smaller subset that takes action and you cant cover everyone who has some contact with someone bad. You neededs offense oversee defense at home with intelligence and Law Enforcement and really deep engagement with these communities. Even if they had the resources therere legal limits here. The fbi cant lilien to evevebody it wants to. There has to be a predicate that allows them legally to start monitoring. We just changed the bulk Data Collection of the nsa. How much would that is that, do you think, impacting this investigation . I dont think bulk Data Collection was an enormous factor because generally that deals with overseas calls to the United States. But what bulk Data Collection did was make the process more efficient so there were no sisier buuets there but when you do have really tapped out resources to cover so many investigations it can help you move through and discard some faster. So in that regard it may have played not a major role but some supportive role. Michael leiter, Pete Williams, thank you both. What the president will say tonight, president obama did address the investigation and terrorism in his weekly address this, of course, aired yesterday. Its entirely possible that these two attackers were radicalized to commit this act of terror and it would underscore a threat weve been focused on for years, the danger of people succumbing to violent extremist ideologies. We know isil and ototer terrorist oups are encouraging people around the world and in our country to commit terrible acts of violence. Often times as lone wolf actors. For the latest on the investigation, im joinedby the attorney g geral, loretta lynch. Madam attorney general, welcome to meet the press. Good morning. We are four days since the attack. What can you tell us about the state of the investigation and whawe know now . This investigation is ongoing, itss wide ranging, very complex. Certainly as you know, were four days away from the horrific attacks. Immediately the fbi began working with our state and local counterparts with whom we have an excellent relationship. This is an fbi investigation now we do have of radicalization. This is a terrorism investigation at this point in time but we continue to work closely with oururstate and local counterparts, also atf, marshalls are on the ground. Were focusing on the victims of this horrific attack. Four days, over 300 intervieie. Severer l lations searched. A lot of information being processed, being analyzed and being gathered. And more to come. So what i would say to people is that this investigation as it has already been stated is a marathon, not a sprint, but it is one of great concern to the American People and so were committed to keeping people informed. Can you say definitively they were both radicalized. I cant t y definitively right now what led either of these two people to pick up guns and become murderers. I can say that is the focus of our investigation. Were looking at everything we can find out about these two killers lives, how they grew up, where they grew up, how they met. All of those things will provide us guidance. Just from what we can read in one type of person before he met his wife and somebody else after. Is your focus on the investigation primarily through her when it comes to the radicalization issue . Our focus on the investigation is wide ranging and we cant limit it to one point in time. We are trying to learn everything we can about both of these individuals. What have you learned about her time in saudud arabia . Im not able to go into a lot of specific there is because we are working closely with our foreign counterparts to gather that information. It will be a long process, it will be an exhaustive process and we are trying to learn ass much as we can about her life before they met, after they met, and, frankly, after she came here as well. What we are trying to focus on again is what motivated these two individuals. What led them not just to commit the act but to pick this particular place. What do you have any evidence that says that they were planning another attack and thth this just happenedo be what they decided to do . Obviously we have concerns wherever we see people who have appear to be in the process of accumulating weapons and amamunition. This point, we do not have any evidence that they were part of either a larger group or cell or that they were planning anything else. Thats at this time. What i will say is, again, we are continuing to run everything to ground we can about these two individuals. How cooperative has pakistan been in this investigation so r . I cnt really characterize any country except to say that we work well with a number of our foreign counterparts. Is pakistan one of those countries . Pakistan is one of those countries. That you work well with . I will say we often work with our local Law Enforcement counterparts not just here but overseas, through the intel sequence community, through our military connections, through our lawnforcement connections countries. Have you learned more ababt herrime in social media . There was a report in the l. A. Times that perhaps she got radicalized, was interested in al nusra front and had started becoming more more fundamentalist in her believes, her own family said there was 2009 version of her and after that she became different. I think what you see with these comments from friends and family and the information coming out from social media is a small part of what were doing, what the fbi is doing in gathering everything that we can find about h h toto build that larger picture. Everything that youve mentioned is part of that picture. At this point, its just too early to say. So what i would say is i would caution people not to try and dene eitherr of these two individuals right now because we dont want to foreclose either any avenues of investigation or any other issues or motivations. There have been reports that he h h some contactctith people that the fbi had under surveillance. What is the threshold to become under surveillance by the fbi . Clely syed farook didnt meet that threshold. Should she . Well, i dont want to use the blanket term that individuals are under surveillance with whom he had contact with. He did have a number of contacts with individuals that hadad come on thth fbis radar screen for a variety of reasons. So depending upon those reasons, those individuals may have been under review for a number of things and he was someone who had contact with ththm. We are running all of that to ground. We are also looking into what those connections were, if anz, conversations if any. All of that ispart of what were looking at. Is that making you rethink this idea that the threshold should be lowered . I think every case is different. Every situation is different. People come on the fbis radar screen for a variety of reasons and a variety of time. We run everything to ground, similar to what weve been telling people here. If you see something, say something. Report your concer to Law Enforcement. They will be looked at. They will be reviewed. Sometimes theyre nothing. Sometimes theyre something. Sometime there iss a connection that years later may show up. All of this information is useful. Right now i uld caution people not to try and define these two individuals right now. We are learning all we can about them. Have said see something say mething. Is there a line wherereou worry people will be overly suspicious . It as hard to characterize that. I think in this particular day inage people are understandably concerned. This horrific attack has people on edge and frightened. We lost so many victims and people were wounded. People are concerned and we understand that. Our view i that if you have concerns that rise to a suspiciononthat someone that you either know or see on a regular basis is evidencing a change in behavior or discussion, thrtening talk, threateninin language. This is similar to workplace disputes as well in terms of what people can see. Alert law enforceaent rather than taking matters into your own hands. Why do you think the mother, his mother who was, of course, who they left their sixmonthold with, apparently didnt know they had a cache of weapons, didnt know they had a pipe bomb factory in t tir garage. I cant speak that fact of the investigation. Obviously its something were looking at very, very closely and we appreciate everyone whos come forward with information about that. So i cant characterize the knowledge of any of the other witnesses in the case. What i will say is that this indicates the evolving nature of the threat that we are seeing. We have come from a time of the largescale planned al qaedastyle attacks to the encouragement of lone wolves. Ft. Hood, attanooga, too encourage people to act on their own. Weve been hearing this for sick years, that the threat has changed and it looks like we have no new ways to stop this threat. I mean, do we have to jusus accept the idea that this is the way we have to live now . Accept the idea that a lone wolf inspired by an isis web site could just mow people down . I dont think we should ever acacpt the idea at someone can come along and take away our safety and freedom. We have to do everything we can to prevent that. And that is really a multifaceted approach. Weve evolved a lot since 9 11 also in terms of Law Enforcement capabilities, intelligence capabilities, military, counterterrorism. We have been watching this threat evolve for some time. We e re now at a pointthere because we, in fact, have been successful at stopping a number of plots the threat has evolved. We do see these lone wolf actors. We see these encouragements for troubled individuals to pick up a gun and act out of this ideology. Again, not sure which one they picked in this case despite the media accounts but wee do see this. We have to evolve as well and we are. We are reviewing everything about this case but also past cases to see what are the common threads. And when we look back at the terrorism investigation since 9 11 and there have been numerous ones one of the things that does come to the fore, czech,huck, is that in aumber ofof cases when we look back at these individuals, somebody noticed a change. Were hearing that from family members. Everybody is saying that. How do you get people to talk about that before it happens . What we tell people is alert Law Enforcement. We are on alert 24 7 and everything that you report will be investigated. We do it in private. We do it covertly. This could be a problem, it could simply be your neighbor having a bad day, but better be safe than sorry. Let me ask you about the nsa program that just ended, the bulk collection. Is that a resource you wish you u had today . We understand the concerns that people have with not only protecting our values but our privy interests as well. We think the usa freedo act was good resolution of that. You still do . Were committed to working forward you dont want new reforms . More access . Obviously if Congress Wants to talk about anything were happy to pride information. Were committed to moving forward under the current act. That act does primarily deal with overseas individuals and contntts there but every tool is important, chuck, is w wat i would say. Its part of a piece here. After paris said there was no credible threat, do those words mean anything anymore considering the world weive in . I think we review the information we have. We try and tell people what we know at the time. In terms of the indices and whats on the radar screen, we do want people tonow if, in fact, we learn of an incident focused on a particular city. If we learn of longterm planning focused on a particular industry or infrastructure. So we feel we have an obligation to let people know if we have information of a credible threat or not. These two individuals, selfradicalized, radicalized by others, thats what we want to learn so we can figure out how to prevent this again. What will we learn from the president tonight . What calls to action will he have for the country or congress . Theheresident understands the country is very concerned about this issue and i think what youll hear from him is a discussion about what government is doing to ensure our highest priority, the protection of the American People. Actions weve taken not just since 9 11 but since paris to help keep the American People and american interests safe. You may hear him call on congress to revivi measures and take action as well. But i think what youll hear on the president say is to call on the American People to not give into fear. Is this a time for a gun control conversation . We here in the middle of that conversation. We always have. When we have the incidents that we have seen, were talking about this terrible San Bernardino shooting now. A week ago we were talking about planned parenthood in colorado and there are dozens and dozens of families a gun problem or a violence problem in this country . I think we have a number of issues here and dealing inging with guns is one way to handle the issue. Loretta lynch, thank you for coming in this morning. The terror attacac have reshaped the campaign and may have given another boost to donald trump. When we come back, two republican president ial different views on how to fight terror home. 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Political response to what happened in San Bernardino. Senator, i want you to resnd to something marco rubio said. We were still able to see phone records of a potential terrorist. You have to argue with chief counsel by the time you have access to the phone records and find out who theyve been talking to before it was too late. You were on the forefront of trying to change this law. Any second thoughts . You know, senator rubio were doing his job and in congress more, he might know the program continues. The paris tragedy, this tragedy happened while we were still doing bulk collection. All bulk collection. Also i i frances, they have a program a thousandfold more invasive collecting all of the data of all the french. So my question is, how much liberty do we want to give up for a false sense of security . The government has investigated our program of collecting through a generalized fashion everyones phone records in the country, and theyve found that no terrorist case has been thwarted through this. What would you do if you were president tonight . President is going to address the nation. What would you say to the n nion to make them feel safer . This idea of a lone wolf doesnt make me feel any safer . I think what weve had in the past is the governnt says, we need to collect the whole haystack, every americans privacy. What id like to do is make the haystack smaller i. Think we have to be careful who comes here from the middle east. Ive introduced legislation to say right now lets stop it. How is that not personal profiling . People who want to come to this country dont have constitutional rights. Once they get here they go. We as of a nation have the ability and should decide who can come here. We dont know who is here right now. The woman that was ended up being married to this terrorist, i dont think she was properly vetted. I think she came here and i dont think we adequately knew enough about her. And i think theres also some indication the papers she filed to come here were a lie to begin with. I dont think were doing april adequate vetting process of those coming to our country. Dow you think the visa program, any terrorists that have come here and committed acts from 9 11 to this woman, have come here on some form of visa. How in jeordy is this program . Heres the probable. We have 11 million said to be illegal in the country. Many have oversay stayed their visa. Theres students from the middle east. If 40 have overstayed their visa, do we need to know who they are . Lets make the haystack smaller. Lets say for a while until we can figure ho out whos coming and whos coming and whos overstayed their visa, lets have extra scrutiny. Theres a whole segment of the world nept on sending people to destroy us. These folks accumulated quite the arsenal. Is there anything you would support the amount of arsenal somebody could have in their garage. Interestingly, they accumulated this arsenal in california, ten heavy dayday waiting period, everything obama has wanted california had and it didnt stop this. I think ultimately the rules you make for gun control people who are intent on killing themselves arent too concerned about the rules. Lawabiding citizens are. The other thing to realize is almost all the shootings including this one, happened in a government building where while its not the ultimate answer. The ultimate answer would be no violence. Part of the answer is staying we need to allow people to defend theflselves. Youd like to get rid of the no carry rules. Yes. Ill leave it there. Let me go to senator lindsey graham. Let me start here with you. What do you want to hear from the president tonight . That hes going to change his strategy and come up with a Regional Army to go in and destroy the caliphate in raqqah, syria. That he is going to abandon whats not working. Hes overwhelmed by radical islam in general he doesnt have a strategy to destroy isil. I just came back from iraq, my 36th trip. Here what i can tell you. The paris attack was highly sophisticated, well planned, very clever, took months in the making, very much like 9 11, and there is a 9 11style attack coming to america. And i can tell you whos planning it. The leaders of isil and theyre in raqqah, syria. So for gods sake, mr. President , change your strategy, come up with a grond force to go in and destroy the caliphate before we get hit here at home. That would be my advice. Senator, it seems you can militarily take care of an al qaeda, an isis. We havent defeated the ideology. The ideology is as strong as ever. Right. Given what just happened in San Bernardino. What is your plan to defeat the ideology, sir . Well, you start with the leaders you take down the caliphate. Im convinced that the caliphate the size of indiana, if it were destroyed, it would be harder for people we took down al qaeda, and this just rose up a new version of this, a new strain rose up. I can tell you this. Of, that al qaeda has been placed on the run but not destroyed. Isil is not the jv team. I cannot stress enough that there is a terrorist army in syria and iraq that wants to attack the homeland and were not doing anything with about it. How do you defeat the ideology . Build up others . You reject rand paul. This flirtation with isolation isolationalism is over. Im advocating building up others, build a small schoolhouse in afghanistan to help a young girl destroying the ideology more than a bomb, i am in im an internationalist. I want to help others not just kill terrorists. But i can tell you theres a sense of urgency that the president does not possess that there is a 9 11 in the making. Ive just come back from iraq. It is a matter of time until we get hit by isil, not some lone wolf attack, but hardened terrorists are coming here to hit us hard if we dont hit them first. Are there more resources you want to give the fbi . Yes. And do you think if somebody like essentially the way Law Enforcement has described this, facebook page, the equivalent of that, when it came to people they were monitoring. Should that have been enough for us to trigger surveillance into him and if thats the case, how much more resources do we need . Number one, i would set aside budget cut thats are going to devastate the fbi, cia and nsa. Sequestration cuts are not only gutting the military. Theyre gutting the fbi. So if i were president , i would set the cuts aside. I would reinstate the nsa program as robust as possible within the constitutional limits. But more than anything else, if you get nothing else out of this interview, the source of the problem is in syria. Raqqah is the headquarters of isil, which is a lethal terrorist organization now army. If you dont go after them over there, theyre going to hit us over there, and theres no substitute for that in my view. Is there any new regulation on the purchase of firearms by anybody on the no fly list or anything else that you would support . Gun control is not part of a tragedy to defeat radical islam or take isil down. However, it is a problem back here at home. A Million People have been adjudicated a danger of themselves to others at the state court level. I would pay to have those adjudications enrolled into the federal background system so we can detect people who are mentally ill before they buy a gun. But on the no fly list . I dont youve got 40 false positives. Lets make it better. If youre on a no fly list, it has less false positives. Count me in from that being in the background system. But this is not the issue with california. Did she get radicalized before she came here . Is this a terrorist arranged marriage . Is this a breakthrough to penetrate the homeland . Did they marry up a radicalized woman to someone in the country penetrating our system . Thats what i want to know about california. Thats the scariest part this potential story. Yes, it is. Lindsey graham, thank you, sir. Thank you. Coming up, one of the most divisive questions sfais fafacing up after San Bernardino, are we dealing with a legitimate strain of islam . Anchs meet the press is brought to you by Morgan Stanley so whats your news . I got a job ill be programming at ge. Oh i got a job too, at zazzies. friends gasp the app where you put fruit hats on animals . I love that guys, ill be writing code that helps machines communicate. interrupting i just zazzied you. phone vibrates look at it friends giggle i can do dogs, hamsters, guinea pigs. You name it. Im going to transform the way the world works. proudly i programmed that hat. And i can do casaba melons. 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Let me start with this question for both of you, dahlia, is isis preaching a strain of islam . I would say that isis wants us to think so and i would think thats the real danger here is that what isis wants the narrative to be is that they are the true muslims. That they are standing with true islam and everyone else, people like me, are the apostates and if we give into their narrative, were doing their propaganda for them and i think we should really take that to heart and think long and hard about it. When dylann roof walked into a black church, he wanted to start a race war. We didnt let him do that because we didnt cast him as a representative of the white race. We didnt give into his narrative. We did the exact opposite and i think that we have to be careful not to give into the apocalyptic narrative of isis that wants to start a war between muslims and everybody else. That. I know youve argued muslims need to take back their religion how . We absolutely do. We are doing it. On friday i stood with a group of brave and courageous muslims and we stood and we provided by a declaration to the world of reform. We are calling ourselves the Muslim Reform Movement and we are to opposing a very real interpretation of islam that espouses violence, social injustice, and political islam. And what we did is we walked through the gates of the Islamic Center of washington here in d. C. Thats very much run by the government of saudi arabia and we posted our precepts on the door of that mosque because the problem is not simply in syria. The problem is sitting in the birthplace of islam in mecca, saudi arabia, where this interpretation of islam has gone out into the world over the last four decades, creating militancy groups from indonesia to now San Bernardino, california, this vicious attack. We have to take back the faith and we have to take it back with a principle of peace, social justice, and human rights, womens rights and secularized governance. Dalia, when americans find out, were learning more about the woman here, we find out her own family is saying, yeah, she became really religious and she changed. Americans are going to see this is the more likely theyll end up somehow fighting for isis cause. I can understand that. I think those are real fears. I think we have to keep a few things in mind, though, this particular couple were learning more and more about them. First of all, they actually stopped going to the mosque about two years ago. Another thing that many people arent talking about is that they targeted the only muslim in the room and shot that woman four times. That was someone that used to go to their mosque. Its very hard to understand what inspired these people. But what we know broadly from research is that religiosity does not correlate with sympathy for terrorism. Its quite the opposite. The more religious someone is, the more often they go to the mosque, the more likely they are to reject attacks on civilians. I want to expand the conversation. We have amy walter, rich lowry, charles ogletree, elizabeth bird flu mill bird flu miller from the it seems that this debate is irrelevant for outsiders, its for muslims to decide whether its a religion of peace or not and if enough of them do you cut off the oxygen to the radicals but at the moment the extremists have significant financial popular and theological backing in the middle east and that is an enduring phenomenon and one that will require a long ideological war to win. Im sorry, im going to have to disagree with you. They simply do not have ideological, theological or popular support. This is a criminal organization that is funding their criminality with things like drug trade and selling oil. They do not have the ideological support that youre describing at all. In fact, its quite the opposite. Theyve had a number of voices from across the spectrum say that what theyre doing is completely unislamic. They have no support popularly in terms of the general public. But yet theyre still there but so are many other terrorist organizations and their primary victims are muslims. Thats very important. And to that point i think what speaks the loudest and what speaks to your point is the blood thats spilling. From australia to now california. How much blood has to be spilled until we recognize inside of the Muslim Community that we do have an ideological problem and that we do have support. I think the blood is spilling in syria and its mostly muslims. There are hundreds and hundreds of followers of Islamic State around europe and the u. S. The studies are showing this. And you will you have to do is look at the conversation inside of our mosques and inside of our communities and you will hear it. And i hear it. And i have to say that i saw it pakistan, and met women who were supporting this ideology. I call them the taliban ladies auxiliary back then. This young woman in california would have been a star member of it. Go ahead, elizabeth. I had after the paris attacks in this country we all patted ourselves on the back and said well, we have a much more assimilated Muslim Population here than they do in europe. But does this attack put that i mean, does that give you pause now are we wrong about that . When we talk about a wall, right, to try to keep out these this threat, the problem is that these are ideas and they are filtering throughout the world and it is naive and i think ultimately the reason why we as muslims stood on friday and went to the mosque and took these risks on our own lives is because weve had enough. Like the world has had enough. Thats an important thing. That requires brave troy do what shes talking about. But im hearing here that this Muslim Movement with women is what we have to focus on and women having doing, i think, the right thing having the conversations, talking to people about that. And i hate this idea that we as americans are going to say were going to have a sense at the border, some place else, to figure out whether muslims can come to the United States. Muslims have a right like every other people to come to the United States and we have to be concerned about the gun killings, people who are americans, who are irish, who are english, who are all around the country. And so we dont want to just as we dont want to bury our needs the sand about serious issues, a meme is now circulating called the ostrich brigade and its used to describe the people who are burying their needs the sand. I call it the 3d strategy, denial, deflection, and demonization of those of us who these issues of extremism and dalia, we have to do it. This is a book called women in the shade of islam. Its published by saudi arabia. I picked it up in pakistan where our young wife in california would have picked up an item like this and it puts out this wahabi ideology that is ultimately the toxic poison that is crossing all these borders. Dalia, i want you to have the last word. I think its important to understand that isis biggest enemy are ordinary muslims. Thats why they are fleeing. Thats why theyre the primary victims of isis. Muslims are the ones who want to do the most to defeat this ideology. Its important that we dont do their propaganda for them by giving them the legitimacy that they crave. I want to say one last word which is this is the declaration and well share it with the world. This is the islam we want to see in the world. Well let people that want to see more, well put the link on our web site. All right, thank you, asra, dalia. When we come back, the this is a story about doers, the artificial heart, electric guitars and rockets to the moon. 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Beginning to say on the record what they have been whispering about in private for months, that donald trump at the top of the ticket could mean a electoral wipeout down the ballot and republicans are taking the possibility of trump as nominee seriously enough that the committee that oversees next years senate races laid out a confidential sevenpage blueprint for candidates on how to run with trump at the top of the ticket. For instance, advising candidates to grab on to the best elements of his antiwashington populist agenda but warning trump is a misguided missile subject to farcical fits and candidates should avoid getting drawn into every donald trump dustup but should condemn comments about whacky things about women. Trump responded to the memo on thursday. I dont say anything whacky about women. I have more respect for women than anybody would understand and im going to get people jobs and protect people and thats why every time theres a tragedy everything goes up, my numbers go way up. Walter, amy, elisabeth bumiller. Amy, we havent heard from you. I think freakout is setting in among republican establishment people . I think concern is setting in and there is a lot made about that memo. I will say this. The one thing about it that they get to the hard of which all establishment needs to understand is that very early on in this campaign what have we heard from Republican Voters . They want somebody thats new, they want somebody thats fresh, they dont want establishment. That is what if you want to beat donald trump then you need to be the candidate that is not the establishment in your thinking, in the way youre presenting yourself but you present yourself as the most lets say the temperamentally prepared to be president. So the change agent, temperamentally prepared. That is what theyre looking for. And i thought wall street journal quote they got a guy in iowa to say where this race is for a lot of republicans right now. He said nobody in iowa wants trump for president but everybody in iowa wants somebody like trump for president. Thats what you need. Rich . Its clear hes not going to disappear that a cloud of pixie dust as many people thought and i dont think theres a clever way for the establishment to take him down. Its very simple. Another candidate is going to have to find a way either to outmaneuver him or to just frankly beat him in the argument. And if no one can do that, yeah, you better man the lifeboats because theres a significant chance hell win the nomination. Does that mean cruz or christie, that those are the two best foils because they have the bluster but restraint that goes with the bluster . We dont know yet. But so far the three candidates who have dealt with trump most adeptly are cruz, christie and rubio but theyve avoided him in one form or another and i think one of the most interesting subplots now, cruz is creeping up on trump in iowa theres internal data that talks about having him ahead in iowa. Does trump blast cruz and how does cruz react if he does . Is if that same i think your wonderful publication, the New York Times, the initial freakout of the establishment, i think it was somebody from the 90s who said oh, yeah, but the establishment takes out trump, theyre doing ted cruzs dirty work for him. And some people think cruz is just as bad of a electoral nightmare down the ballot as trump. Cruz is not popular in the senate. Republicans say he may be too disliked to be the nominee and thats a real concern about that. And i think the one way to go after trump maybe is go after him as a closet democrat. That he supported democrats in the past. I mean, im not saying [ laughter ] its an idea. Thats not worked. Its the democrats problem. But hes he gave money to hillary clinton, hes got this new york style. You know, i offer it up. I think fitness for office and temperament. Thats the only thing. He has a zero chance of being successful. Well, you say so. Hes going lose. No question about that. When . Hes going to lose now because people were attracted to him because he was not elected to an office, he was not a politician. And like you said before, he was a person that people say, wow, he has ideas. But the more and more you listen to donald trump, the more you have the sense that she not the person thats going to run the country. I have strong views. If the republicans want to put him up, fine. Rich, what would william f. Buckley be saying about trump today . Ill always be caution about what bill had to say because he had such a idiosyncratic mind. I think he would be appalled at the crude populism but would like some things about him that would surprise all of us. Can i say, chuck, i think the guy who gets the least chatter given how high his chances are of winning the nomination is ted cruz. I agree. I might prefer to be him than anyone else at the moment. Hes a favorite to win iowa, and if he wins out of iowa hell be the delegate leader by the end of march if he wins iowa. But guess what . We still have less than two months to go. Well take a quick pause. In 45 seconds we have the end game segment and the new renewed old debate over guns in america. Covering your kids eyes is one way to prevent them from seeing something inappropriate. Another way is to use Parental Controls on your tv, computers, and mobile devices to control viewing habits when youre not around. Its in your hands. The more you know. Time now for meet the press end game. End game time and the debate over gun control was reignited after the San Bernardino attack. The New York Times ran its first frontpage editorial in 95 years calling for greater gun regulation and publications from around the country also weighed in as you can see here. Now, on the other side of this debate, republican president ial contenders didnt hold back when it came to the issue of guns. If you look at paris, they didnt have guns and they were slaughtered. If you look at what happened in california, they didnt have gun, they were slaughtered. They could have protected themselves if they had guns. Theyre still out there talking about gun control measures as if somehow terrorists care about what our gun laws are. Folks in the media ask at the behest of democrats isnt it insensitive for us to do a this terror attack . Let me tell you something, i really dont view our job as being sensitive to islamic terrorists. [ cheers and applause ] well, elisabeth, it was your publication. I know you didnt write the editorial but not apparently this issue rose to the level of Warren Hardings presidency. Yes, that was decision of the publisher, not the news department. No doubt. Im of the news department. But, yes. And people have been asking how effective is it, its not for me to say. I just want to point out that warren harding, the times assailed his nomination for president , and we can see how effective that was. [ laughter ] thats a question ive heard from some democrats quietly saying, you know what, push for gun control but not now. Guess what . Youre going to get lost and lose the argument, that the harder. We may lose the argument, but i think we have to talk about gun control. One of my best friends in mississippi, dennis sweet, he has guns, hes taught his son and daughter how to use guns, theyre locked in a case. And thats what gun control is about. Theres no way youre going to get rid of the second amendment, no way youre going to get rid of the first amendment, and people have to understand how important this is. But i think that when they see more and more killings, we have to figure out what were going to do about it, and i dont think the criminal Justice System now has an answer. Amy, i want to read you a quote. But ive had my own anecdotals with my own friends. Heres a gentleman quoted in the times. I believe my government is supposed to protect me but it has let me down. I resent having to defend myself. I should not have to, but at this point i dont feel like i have a choice. I have my own anecdotes of a friend who never would have bought a gun, about that ate and bought a gun, and is thinking about it. Absolutely. This deep insecurity has been going on for a while. I picked it up in 2014 sitting in focus groups of women feeling terrified not just about that isis was come, terrified that their children couldnt be safe at school, terrified about what was happening in ferguson and other places. The real issue on the debate about this is the messenger more than the message. This has to come from if we want to have a Real Movement on this issue for those who support gun control, it has to be coming from the republican side. As soon as a democrat or liberal organization opens their mouth and says we want to see this its going to go over the heads and the same way on the abortion debate. If they want to make a change it cant come from a republican, it has to come from a democrat. Rich, it is sort of look, its clear anytime theres been one of these shootings more people want to guy guns. Are we having the wrong debate . Should it be about weapons of war versus guns . You divide the debate differently . I dont get this debate at all because we have it after every mass shooting and now a terror attack, and the proposals that are talked about almost always have nothing to do with this couple in california, they didnt get their guns at a gun show, they werent on the terrorism watch list, they passed a background check. So you can do all of that and it would have made no difference. And the idea now that were going to fight terrorism through gun control i think is just utterly fatuous. But they did have assault weapons. Legal. Yes, but there is a proposal to get rid of assault weapons and that a lot of Democrats Ask and a lot of people ask why is it necessary for people in this country who are not in Law Enforcement to have assault weapons . The ar15 is the most popular rifle in the country and as rand paul pointed out california has rules against assault weapons, its just those rules are inherently so technical and have to do with cosmetic features you can easily get around them with any semiautomatic rifle. Well, this is not a debate well end here, but the show has to end. I want to thank you all. It was obviously a very busy show. Thats all we have for today. I wish we could d another 30 but my bosses wont allow it. Well be back next week meet the press. Its been her fight for twenty years. Something is wrong with our Healthcare System and it needs to be fixed. Then, it was about Health Reform and getting eight million kids covered. Now, its about stopping republicans from repealing obamacare, and taking on Insurance Companies to bring down drug prices. Im not going to let any family be deprived of healthcare. Im not going to let the republicans rip up obamacare and throw it away. Announcer this is the steele report. 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