Detectives finally had a major break in the investigation. Silver coins worth around the same amount as the ones taken from the tyrrell home had turned up in a local coin shop. Surveillance cameras caught the transaction on video. The man certainly looked familiar but if there was any doubt he left a copy of his i. D. Mark porter. Yes. Reporter mark edward porter. Thats him. Reporter but selling a load of coins didnt prove mark porter was guilty of murder. Remember mark also had an interest in the coin business. The best explanation for that was just simply that these were coins that mark porter had, it was just a coincidence that they happened to be sold the day after the tyrrells were killed. Reporter still for police, the friend, ibm executive, retired School Superintendent and by all appearances a pillar of the community, was now a prime suspect in the murders of i never did like the guy. I never did trust him. I thought he was something of a fake. Reporter garys brother larry always had a bad feeling about mark. And he was convinced if mark was the killer, the motive was money. I felt that he was befriending and recruiting and grooming my brother to gain access to his money. I think over a period of time he saw jan as an obstacle. Reporter when jessica heard detectives were looking at mark, she wasnt surprised. Reporter conspicuous in his absence . Or am i making too much of his nonappearance . I think it was pretty obvious that there was something going on. Reporter and his former secretary said she hated working for mark porter. Ended up quitting her job to get away from him. I said hes off in some way. I dont know. He could be a psychopath or something, i said, it scares me. Reporter you used that word . I did. Reporter but what bothered police was his lack of cooperation. H he wouldnt take a polygraph. Reporter add to that the suspicious pawn shop transaction and the story about stopping by the tyrrell house on the night of the murders, and a talk with marks wife about the night of the killings only made them more certain. She had talked about making a couple phone calls to mark, and that she couldnt get hold of him and she didnt know where he was or what he was doing. Reporter but police still sample to match to that latex glove found at the scene. So they hatched a plan to get one. You start tailing mark porter . Yes. Reporter cars outside the house . Yes, we had undercover officers that were constantly doing surveillance for weeks and weeks and weeks to try and somehow obtain a dna sample from him. Reporter but nabbing a sample proved more difficult than expected. In all those weeks, officers continued to come up empty. They watched him eat his lunch. Ey cup. And they were all excited because they thought they were going to be able to get the straw hed been drinking his drink with only to see him pick the straw up and put it into his togo cup and leave with the straw. Reporter so he knew that you guys had eyes on him . Its difficult to know what he knew at that time. Reporter then three months after the murders, an undercover officer followed mark into an Automobile Oil change shop. Goes inside, marks got a coffee cup that hed gotten from mcdonalds. Casual conversation. Reporter the suspect and the undercover cop. The suspect and the undercover cop. Obviously mark has no clue whats going on. As hes speaking with him, marks car gets done and he gets up and leaves and leaves behind the coffee cup. Reporter police had their sample. And in less than 24 hours, they had the results. Its confirmed. Its a match. The same dna from the coffee cup is the dna from the latex glove. Just light up when you hear that . Cant even describe the emotion of it that were going to be able to hopefully bring some resolution to the tyrrell family. Reporter two weeks later armed with search warrants, detectives arrested mark porter at his office. How do you take that . You got the wrong guy . This cant be . Absolutely not. He said okay and turned around and put his hands behind his back. That was it, the only words he said. Reporter jessica was at work were with me. He said hes been arrested. And i remember falling to the floor, and just being so overwhelmed with relief that he was finally caught. Reporter even the former secretary who didnt like him was horrified. I couldnt believe it. I mean, oh. I thought, no. Reporter investigators went back to marks wife and told her that her husbands own story put him at the scene of the crime. Ou there . The time they were killed. No. Yes, maam. Yes, maam. Okay. Still circumstantial. Reporter and thats exactly what mark porters defense attorney seemed ready to argue. Mark hired one of the best to plead his case. He has a spotless record. Five College Degrees and has an outstanding past of good reputation. Reporter at a bond hearing, the defense revealed its they would argue that there was nothing suspicious about marks dna inside his best friends house. He was a regular visitor to the house, porter. He would get with gary and theyd put on their gloves and handle the old coins and the objects and thats why the glove is there. Jurors, its benign. Do you think that works as an argument in the real world of courtroom drama . Potentially yes. Reporter but what about that suspicious coin sale . Well, there was no way to know garys house. And as for the assumption that mark porter was a compulsive gambler hopelessly in debt. You had to wonder if he got behind with a bookie or the mob. Did he owe money to some heavy people . That was a theory that we frequently talked about. There was never any evidence that we found that led to that. Reporter so the case of potential Death Penalty was not airtight. And when mark hired new attorneys who asked to talk about a plea deal, the prosecution was willing to listen. Can we achieve what we need to achieve without the risk of going to trial . Reporter could have walked. Theres a chance of a hung jury and you have to do it all again. Theres a chance they come back on a lesser crime. Reporter both sides agreed. Mark porter pleaded guilty to two counts of Second Degree murder and was sentenced to life in prison. No eligibility for parole until hes 82. Im still very shocked, very sad. I have a lot of relief that mr. Porters finally going to be rest of his life. He has to live every day with what he did. Every day he has to think about what he did. And all of the lives he destroyed. Reporter youre saying he has to live his life in a kind of remorse, but you havent seen any sign that theres that remorse. Thats the only bad part. But he still has to sit there. Reporter today jessica is in february of 2015, she and jason finally got married. We got married on valentines day. While it was a great day, it was also very sad. My parents werent there. Reporter larry took his brothers place and walked her down the aisle. She asked me to give her away, and what should have been my brothers job. Reporter kind of bittersweet moment. Mmhmm, yeah, thats true. It was an honor to do it, but it didnt feel right. Reporter to keep her parents memory alive, jessica has set up a scholarship in their names. As for that offbeat museum of a home, its still there with a loving daughter as caretaker. I still feel them there. They loved that house. My mom built that house. I grew up there. And so i cant let that go. Thats all for now. Im lester holt. This sunday, split screen america. A divided nation reacts with joy to donald trump and with anger. With antitrump protesters demonstrating across the country, as mr. Trump g washington. Mr. President , it was a great honor being with you, and i look forward to being with you many, many more times in the future. Thank you. Will trump be able to heal the widening divisions in this country . I will talk to his Campaign ManagerKellyanne Conway. Email fallout again. Hillary clinton blames her loss directly on fbi director james comey, saying his announcement stopped her momentum. Not only have democrats lost remain in republican hands. How do democrats rebuild . Senator cory booker and congressman Keith Ellison join me. Did donald trump win the election . Or did Hillary Clinton lose it . We will dig into the numbers. Joining me are david brooks, katty kay, hugh hewitt and nina welcome to sunday and the postelection edition of meet the press. From nbc news in washington, this is meet the press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning and, boy, this is no ordinary sunday. If theres one idea that was voluntarily dated tuesday, its that we live in a split screen country. Half the country feels it finally got its country back and the other half fears they lost half the nation once again feels at home in a country they recognize. The other half worries that theyre now homeless in their own home country. That split screen idea is reflects in the vote. With 93 of the vote counted, Hillary Clinton leads donald trump by more than 600,000 votes, larger than al gore had in the popular vote over george w. Bush. She will almost surely end up winning the popular vote by two percentage points. Elections are not won that way. They are won and lost in Electoral College. Trumps victory sparked protests over the past few days. One question many people are asking is, how did the polls get it so wrong . Hillary clinton has one answer. Yesterday she said fbi director james comeys two email announcements 11 days before the election and the other two days before the election proved fatal. Clinton told donors, quote the levers of power in washington and many levers around the country. It has left clinton voters asking themselves, what just happened. So hillary called. And it was a lovely call. And it was a tough call for her. In a category five political storm, we missed what should have been clear, donald trump is the latest in a series of winning president ial candidates who faced opponents with deep resumes or per see and americans voted for change in 2016. If we have learned nothing else from the past two years of elections, we should hear that message loud and clear. That the American People want washington to change. In the rust belt, pennsylvania, wisconsin, and michigan, trump turned reliably blue states red. How did he do it . Support of White Working Class voters in business blue collar suburbs. Macomb county, home of the reagan democrats, was one of 12 obama counties in michigan that voted trump. I think many people also missed the fear that is really in working men and womens hearts and souls. 2008 scared people. Number two, the Obama Coalition did not turn out where it needed to. Turnout was africanamerican voters. In cleveland, clinton got 63,000 viewer votes than obama did. Democratic votes were down to wayne county and in walk county. Number three, trump spiked the vote in Rural America. While romney won in rural areas by 19 points in pennsylvania, trump won them by 45 points. The rural jobs are tougher to find. Little easier for donald trump and his campaign focusing on immigrants taking jobs, trade deals causing jobs to be lost. Clinton also struggled to articulate why voters should support her beyond the fact that she was not trump. What is the big idea of your candidacy . Look, we are stronger together. We are stronger together in facing our internal challenges and our external ones economic messaging in small town and Rural America as obamas campaign did now he has a plan that will give millionaires a tax break. Knock the crab out of him. The outcome is unfathomable. Discourse has changed forever. The other half celebrate. What im seeing is a return back to family values. Joining me now is the woman who ran the trump campaign, and transition, Kellyanne Conway. Welcome back to the show. Thank you, chuck. Let me start, its amazing what a difference a month makes. A month ago, Speaker Paul Ryan was not inviting him to a rally. He said donald trump didnt speak not Republican Party. Paul ryan changed his tune. On election day, you and i had a conversation. You were setting up the idea that maybe if he comes up short, to answer for. Is this victory because of the Republican Party or despite of it . Because of the Republican Party. But mostly because of donald j. Trump. He created a movement. You see the turnout in the counties that went for donald trump being way up. The see the counties in the states that were more for Hillary Clinton being way down in turnout. The enthusiasm and momentum, chuck, that donald trump created on election day. I hope even those who were critical of mr. Trump, of president elect trump, i like the sound of that, i hope they learn something from the voters. Thats what so many of us have been urging from the beginning. You want to grow the Republican Party . Pay attention to what he has done. Before the election, there were democrats telling Hillary Clinton, if she won, she needed to spend time in red america. Does donald trump need to spend time in blue america, not just have rallies with supporters but maybe have town halls with opponent snz. Sure. He has shown his willingness to spend time in blue america. Its how he won the election. Busting the blue wall. Theres a difference. Talking to theres one thing talking going to states where he finds voters who agree with him. But talking to voters who disagree with him. He found a lot of voters who disagreed with the Republican Party all along and they voted for him. Those were the undercover trump voters we tried to talk about. You said a chief of staff of staff does set a tone. I want to quote dan balls. Do they want washington to work better or do they expect him to be disruptive as a president . It seems reince priebus, chairman of the rnc as chief of staff would send one direction about working with paul ryan. Steve bannon, might send a more disruptive message. Should we read into that depending on who he names . Well, they will both have big roles in a as well as they should. It was a very small core senior team. Probably less than ten people all told. Im sure that everyone will be very important to the president moving forward. I will say this though. I think having worked with him and known him, steve bannon in this particular campaign was the general. And he is much more the Goldman Sachs managing partner and the naval officer than people realize. Burn washington down . I think the president elect is there to implement his first 100 day plan and those around him know that and will appreciate that, whether its within his inner circle on capitol hill. We are very grateful in trump world to both bannon and priebus. I think you will see them continue to Work Together. We work closely together. This is a mandate. Those of us who are around him will its you say its a mandate. How do you explain losing the popular vote . You got big states in there like california and illinois, new york. All part of america. Of course theyre part of america. Thats my point. Thats half the country its one thing to claim a mandate. I think governingwise i guess what you are saying. But you do have a public opinionwise or popularitywise, thats a different story. How do you scarquare the two. My colleagues across the i respect them. They misread america. They did not have her in red states. They were pretending they were going to turn red blue. They were pretending it was said and you covered it like it was gospel, literally said, we will know this election result before election day because of the early vote. False. But written about. She had a good election good early voting but horrible election day turnout. Then it was, we will have historic turnout. False. It was written about and covered as if it were true because it me i just want to say to you about him, he has put out an agenda that everybody can see. He has talked about what his replacement for obamacare would be. He has talked about his plan to defeat radical islamic terrorism. He is going to create 45 million jobs over ten years, invest in energy and infrastructure. Its all there. Let me ask you one final question. Hillary clinton pinned the blame on james comey for her loss. Do you believe comey did have an impact, whether direct impact or some that had it some help to your candidacy . I think its unfortunate that for secretary clinton who is a woman of enormous gifts and talents and she should be commended for putting her sl out there and running to are president twice, i cant believe its always somebody elses fault. Sometimes you have to take a look in the mirror and reflect on what went wrong. We saw the polls tightening as you must have before the comey announcement on october 28. I think to recognize the fact that 40 Million People have v ways in clinton world. They were quoted that very weekend, chuck, on your show and others as saying, people have decided. People have already incorporated the email scandal into their voting decisions. Now theyre going back and saying he had an impact. What about the fact that they just got it wrong . What about the fact they werent in touch with americans and the cultural zeitgeist and the issue set that motivate american s . Congratulations. The first woman to run a successful president ial campaign as Campaign Manager. That should not thrilled for the country. That should not get lost in all of this. Thanks for coming on. Joining me is a democrat who represents a part of the country that perhaps still cant believe they lost tuesday. Senator cory booker of new jersey. Welcome back to meet the press. Thank you for having me on again. Let me put the question to you this way. What did you learn from the voters on tuesday . What message did they send to you . Party should be standing with pride and chest thumping right now when you have something thats very historic, one of the few times in which the Electoral College and popular vote were different. The message to both parties should be right now that we need to find ways to Work Together to speak to the american public. This is an election like i have never seen before. And i think it reflects the fact that many people have a usual. Both parties should be humble, reach out to each and find ways to build on common ground, to serve the concerns, the rightful frustrations of the American People. When you ran for senate, you talked about you wanted to be a disrupter in that positive sense when you think of the way Silicon Valley companies are thought of as disrupters. Trump, clinton, i heard a lot of voters talking about trump as a disrupter. Do you get the sense maybe that is that was something that was m message . You know, i think theres going to be a lot of time to focus on the data in this election and figure out what happened. I know theres people on both sides trying to sift through it all. Right now, im dealing with the fact that ive never seen an election like this one before where people are so fearful. We elected someone who spews so much twitter trolllike bile and an africanamerican single mom slipped me a note and hugged me with tears in her eyes. So this is a time where i have deep concern about the future of our country. Ive never seen an election from folks who tell me about their children feeling as if they have to leave the nation because theyre going to come after them. My concern right now is standing fear into hope and trying to let folks know were going to fight forward and defend fellow americans against what might or might not come. Whats your message to these protesters that are popping up . I was talking with Kellyanne Conway about it, asking if donald trump should address these folks . She says he has. She said she thinks that president obama and secretary clinton should be telling these protesters, essentially, you president elect trump. Whats your message to the protesters . Im sitting here right now having this conversation with you because of the tradition of american protest. I have my rights, not because of washington suddenly deciding strom thur man and others, let give people rights but because of the voice of protesters. When you have a president that in his campaign who ran contrary to fact but literally threatening to use president ial power in a way that would erode the rights and privileges and equality of large sections of americans, god bless the protesters. But i will tell you this. I caution anyone who in their protest becomes the very thing that theyre protesting against. Meaning, turning to hateful speech, violating principles and ideals that are sacred in this we do not need to indulge in hate. I still remember how upset i was and the aftermath of president obamas election where people and Republican Leadership didnt say that i want to focus on the issues and values of our country but my number one goal is to see that barack obama is not a twoterm president. Thats outrageous. I would never do that. My number one goal to fight to protect poor people, ethnic and religious minorities, working class folks. So im notng the other side in many ways did that i felt was despicable, whether it was heckling a president during his state of the Union Address or questioning the birth and the legitimacy of a president. Those things were despicable to me. We need to not lose our honor. We need to not lose our class in the way that we go about being a noble opposition. The Obama Coalition didnt turn out to vote for her. About half you could look at it two different ways. Trump, particularly when you look at what happened in michigan. 12 counties with working class folks who voted obama over romney picked trump over clinton. Then there were turnout issues in other places like wisconsin. Is this a reminder that the Obama Coalition is not a Democratic Party coalition . You know, so again, i live in a city and ive lived my entire professional live ive a poor census track Median Income where i live. Its 14,000. Ive seen people come out in droves for obama in 2008. I have seen them not couple out in our governors race in 2009. What happened after that race, the earned income tax credit was cut, protecting millionaires in our state but cutting poor people, raising taxes on poor people. Attacked. Elections have kconsequences. Name it whatever you want, but when you dont come out and vote, some people might think, its not going to affect my life. But there are people in this nation on margins that elections like this will hurt and will have a deep impact. Again, thats why put me in the opposition. Put me in those people that are going to resist those things in our country that are going to happen now where the folks who now are in power have said they have told us who they are. They have an agenda thats going to hurt those folks who are workng americans struggling. Were going to have to do everything question to fight against that to make sure that even though we didnt get big turnouts where we needed we had the votes we needed to win. Even though we didnt get the turnouts, its not time to give up. We have to keep fighting. What are you looking for in the next head of the Democratic Party . The next head needs to be a committed progressive, somebody thats going to help to get our message out. Again, ive been working in my community for a long time. Ive seen what happens when do things i consider should have been illegal. Is that Keith Ellison . That is a name that gives me hope and excitement. Theres a process. But they need to be a committed progressive. They need to be someone in this time where theres a vacuum of leadership, that will join others of the committed resistance and stand in the breach. We need to reach out and give space for partnership and collaboration. Thats the humility i was talking about to find to see if theres things we can Work Together on. But ultimately, if after us, with bigotry, p prej prejudice, if they come after we need to make america love again and do everything we can to prevent this country from becoming the way that donald trump campaigned. If he governs the way he campaigned, it will be a disastrous presidency. This is a chance for him to be mag to work across the aisle. Want Democratic Senators to resist. Cory booker, democrat from new jersey, thanks for coming on. Did donald trump win the election or did Hillary Clinton lose it . 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So, why are you orange . Funny. Happened . Hugh hewitt, a supporter of Bernie Sanders nina turner is here, katty kay to give the brexit perspective and david brooks, columnist for the new york times. There were many things that we believed to be true, turned out not to be. We believed donald trump support was stuck in the low 40s. It wasnt. We believed Hillary Clinton had a stable lead. She did not. We believed that Hillary Clinton would expand the electoral ap we believed president obamas coalition was transferable to clinton. It wasnt. We believed clintons successful convention and debates would matter. They did not. Theres a lot more. David brooks, trump win, hillary lose, what happened . Well, it is a good week for humility for pundits. The 21st century happened. It started on 9 11 and it has been a century of counter reaction to globalization. Authoritarian. We have had brexit. We have a lot of these types around the world. The people who will suffering from globalization are saying, no more. We get a voice. For those of us who believe in it, there has to be a movement that says, we still believe in trade, we still believe in International Engagement for america. For those losers or those suffering, we have your back. To me the crucial moment of the Clinton Campaign was when she gave up on she had helped negotiate. That said, i dont believe in what i think i believe in my whole life. Im about to renounce it to win your vote. It was a character issue. She couldnt have an affirmative case for a global world but a supportive world. Katty . I agree on the brexit team. Im thinking about the trump team this week. Members of the leave campaign went to bed that night thinking that they had lost and they woke they won. We did opinion polls that showed if we were to hold it again, remain would win. There were people who came on the bbc who said, you know what, i voted to leave but i didnt think we were going to leave. I think what we have seen is the kind of simple, clarion call of change crashing up against governing. Thats whats going on right now. Disruption. I have had a lot of people say if sanders had been the nominee, it would have been a differ again, everybody thought that secretary clinton was going to beat mr. Trump. So we will never know. In terms of the populist message, senator sanders on the opposite side in a way that pulls people together and not divide them, he was speaking the language of the forgotten. So there should be no surprise that forgotten america, no matter their ethnicity, because we see that mr. Trump was able to get hispanic voters, africanamerican voters, the majority of the women voters though he was painted as the other, the Democratic Party did not listen to the voices of the forgotten america. President elect trump won Rural America three to one. He got more africanamerican votes and latino votes than mitt romney did. Its a political earthquake. I lived in california 27 years. I went through north ridge and big bear. People are jitter y after it. You dont want to be under an overpass. You dont want to be build building. I dont want to get out ahead of this. Theres a monumental shift that goes back to what david said about a reaction to 9 11, the panic, posttraumatic stress america coming up in these protests now. Its very reminiscent. Im the only one that can remember 1968. Its reminiscent of 1968. I had a lot of people bring that up. I want to throw something out about this idea of the lack of cohesion with clinton. Is it possible, nina, that clinton just screamed and even barack obama didnt see that . Very much so. This was a disruption election year. This was the antiinsider year. Some democrats, especially establishment democrats, took their eye off the ball. President obama is amazing in every way. Thats why he won in 2008. In 2016, people wanted something different. Theyre tired of talking about the foreign stuff. Nobody was really focusing in on domestic issues that wealth and people are suffering every day. They wanted something different. I think in terms of the bernie or bust notion, some folks meant that. They actually meant that. I want to throw one other thing out here. Let me play for you a comment by a reporter for reports on Rural America for progressive farmer. He had a provocative response on what happened post election. Listen to this one piece of analysis, david. Every time you heard about these polls, educated white voters were going for Clinton White people without College Degrees or had no college supported trump. I think they took some of these things that were said over and over throughout the last four or five months of the campaign, also very personally themselves, that Rural America is not uneducated, even though maybe there are fewer people with College Degrees than there might be in the metropolitan areas. When we would say these things, it was an academic exercise. The minute he said it i was like, my late father would have kicked me in the rear. I had that just watching that. Its true demographically that people with College Degrees voted differently than people with high school degrees. When you say it when you dont have a college degree, you hear, they think im stupid. Thats not it at all. Im guilty of that. You saw so much sense of moral injury when you went around the trump world, whichav i used to have a code of respectability. Those people are trying to take it away. The numbers of times hear fly overcou country. You heard that. But i heard it every hour. So did i. The skepticism that has grown up about elites is totally justified. Since 2008, no one has gone to jail on wall street for the crash. Elites have not been able to fix the problem. Postmanufacturing job growth, we havent fixed issues with immigration. Policy makers have plainly failed here in the United States and in europe as well. People have suffered because of that. When they say throw out economists, you can totally understand why. This is very important, because donald trump actually won a lot of people we gotta give the president elect his due. He was a beam for the disappointed. He said for the people disappointed with the president on obamacare, come to me, people disapte people disappointed with the supreme court, come to me. He did run a campaign of bringing in the disappointed and to the people who may be disappointed with their own lives and where they are, they have a person to speak for them. I will take a pause here. How should the democrats dig out of this deep hole . Move in the sander s warren direction or try to reconnect with rural and working class america. Party joins me next. Here is what snl did last night. Their version of a Clinton Watch Party from tuesday night. The urban black people vote late. Yeah. Lets hope theres 100,000 of us lets hope theres 100,000 of us in green bay. . Jake reese, . Day to feel alive . . Impressive linda. It seems age isnt slowing you down. But your immune system weakens as you get older increasing the risk for me, the shingles virus. Ive been lurking inside you since you had chickenpox. I could surface anytime as a painful, blistering rash. One in three people get me in their lifetime, linda. Will it be you . And thats why linda got me zostavax, a single shot vaccine. Im working to boost lindas immune system to help protect her against you, shingles. Zostavax is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults fifty years of age and older. 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They gained two more state houses which means they have 33 of the countrys 50 governorships. The race in North Carolina is undecided, though the democrat is ahead. Republicans control 32 state legislatures to just 13 for the democrats with four states divided. With trumps victory, republicans have grabbed the one office that they seem destined to lose for years, and that was the presidency. Now the question were asking is this. How does the Democratic Party fix joining me is a man who Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren believe is the answer to the question of who should lead the Democratic Party out of this wilderness. Its congressman Keith Ellison of minnesota. Welcome to the show. Thanks, chuck. How are you . Im okay. Word is you are announcing officially that you are jumping into the race to be Democratic NationalCommittee Chair tomorrow. Is that true . Well, chuck, let me tell you, people, people basic organizers of the Democratic Base level, also members of congress, labor leaders, all types of folks. And im telling you, im going do my good part. I will let my decision be known tomorrow or soon enough. The real question is not what one person is going to do. What are we all going to do . How are we going to pitch in to fix this party to make working america know that the Democratic Party is absolutely on their side . Thats the real question. Why do you think they minnesota, you have seen the counties that flipped obama to trump, michigan. There were obama 12 voters that voted trump. Its clear it was an economic message that they were trying to send. How did this happen . Well, i think that people have been looking at 40 years of flat wages. You know, the reality is, you got folks in diners and hair shops and barber shops all over this country who look at their my parents did better than im doing and my kids might not do as well as im doing. Thats because wages have been flat for so long. They feel like theres two systems of justice. Over there at wells fargo, you had all this scandal going on there, the ceo leaves with a giant package. Other folks get a lot of trouble for doing less. The truth is, we have got to make america work for working people again. We have to have a shared number one. Chuck, four minimum wage ballot measures succeeded tuesday. People want a better economic Playing Field for working americans. Theyre voting for it. Our job is to make sure that people know the Democratic Party is the party that is going to deliver that for them. Level, making sure we are channelled on massive turnout. Bill clinton was the signer of nafta. You look in the rust belt, it was something donald trump reminded the voters of. Hillary clinton didnt spend a lot of time in Rural America in particular. I guess two questions for you. Do you think the clinton brand itself was maybe too tainted with big donations, big money, nafta goes back there . Second, do you think democrats were on Rural America . I tell you whose brand was tainted is donald trump. This guy was tainted every kind of way you could imagine. No way in the world that donald trump is a champion of working people. He has hurt workers in las vegas, atlantic city, florida, multiple bankruptcies, never showed his taxes. I dont know any good thing this guy has done. Yet because he was able to throw hate and poison on Hillary Clinton, he was able to somehow Electoral College. He lost the popular vote. I think he was skilled at just sort of keeping the attention on anyone but himself. This guy is the most outrageous person ever to win a president ial election. You dont put this fault on clinton at all . Im not going to get up here cast fault on democrats. I think that look, negative campaigning, people do it because sometimes it works. In this particular case, him said, you know, had an impact. But the real question,how do we go forward . My point is we have to go to the doors. We have to go directly to the people from the party unit by strengthening folks at the Grassroots Level to bring a message of Economic Prosperity for working people. Thats what we gotta do. The job of dnc chair many people believe now is a big fulltime job. You heard howard dean in announcing says as much as he likes you he said he didnt think you can do the job of dnc chair and do the job in congress. What do you say . The most important criteria is vision. What is your vision for the party . Do you have a vision to strengthen the grassroots and help them their local community ies . You can do both jobs . Yes, i can. But the fact is is that the real question is not about one person. Its not about an individual. Its about millions of people working all over this country to reach out in their local communities. The dnc chair has to help them do that and have a vision for that and the energy for that. Let me ask a question this way. If you decide not to run, why if you decide not to do it . Because theres a lot of places that i can serve. Im going to im going to fight to rebuild the Democratic Party no matter what. I will fight to make sure the Democratic Party is known among working people that we are their champion, no matter what. Im not really im looking for a place to serve. Im looking for a place to be of use and benefit. Every democrat in this country better think the same way, how worker right out there, worrying about whether the plant will close, fighting for them, standing up for them. Thats what the story is. Keith ellison. What can we all do . Keith ellison, democrat from minnesota, congressman. We will find out tomorrow it sounds like what your final decision is on whether to jump into the race to be dnc chair. Thanks for coming on meet the press, sir. Any time. When we come back, did Hillary Clinton lose because those new glasses . They are. Do i look smarter . Yeah, a little. Youre making money now, are you investing . Well, ive been doing some research. Let me introduce you to our broker. How much does he charge . I dont know. Okay. Uh, do you get your fees back if youre not happy . dad laughs wow, youre laughing. Thats not the way the world works. Well, the worlds changing. Are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management, bp gives its offshore teams 24 7 support from onshore experts, so we have extra sets of eyes on our wells every day. Because safety is never being satisfied. Today, i am helping people work better. And also feel better. I am helping hospitals personalize treatments using billions of data points. And i am working with orreco to use Biomarker Data to boost the performance of athletes. Hello, my name is watson. Working together, we can outthink anything. Bp engineers use underwater robots, so they can keep watch over operations below the sea, even from thousands of feet above. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. We are back. Did donald trump win the election or did Hillary Clinton lose it . The answer, yes and yes. Lets really dive into the numbers. We will start with the state of florida where clinton hit the number we thought she needed. She got 248,000 more votes than president obama did in 2012. Big surge in latino voters. But obama won florida, clinton did not. How did it happen . Because trump was able to drive up turnout in parts of the state that many of us did not expect. He donald trump won florida, Hillary Clinton did not lose it. Wisconsin, however, that paints a different picture. Its a state Hillary Clinton clearly lost. Here is how. Donald trump got nearly the same number of votes in wisconsin that romney did in 2012. About a 2,000 vote different between the two. Clinton missed obamas mark by a lot. The clinton team banked on winning big. Clinton got 43,000 fewer votes than obama did. Turnout was down overall, which suggests those folks didnt switch parties, they simply stayed home. Those folks lost votes in milwaukee alone were enough to cost her the state. She lost wisconsin to donald trump by roughly 27,000 votes. Wow. Clinton needed to revive the Obama Coalition to beat dona wisconsin, along with michigan and ohio and pennsylvania, she wasnt able to do that. She needed to make sure obama voters didnt become trump voters. Clearly in some states that happened too. Coming [vo] wells fargo is making changes to make things right. First, all customers who have been impacted will be fully refunded. 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