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Paul, lets start with paul ryans comments this week that hes not ready, as he put it, to endorse trump and that its basically on your candidate to unify the party. Here is paul ryan. I think theres work that needs to be done in order to unify the party. I think our presumptive nominee needs to do that. I want to be a part of helping him do that, but right now, no, i think that, you know, theres some work to do here. How seriously does trump take this split within the party and how far is he willing to go when he meets with paul ryan later this week to try to repair the split . I think you need to put things into context here. A week ago you had Republican Leaders in washington so many saying that there was going to be a contested convention and last tuesday night in indiana, a state trump was supposed to lose he had an overwhelming vingt ri and the race ended, ended much sooner than anybody expected except maybe the people supporting donald trump who knew he was on to something. So washington was in a little bit of an uncertain phase and still s but its a healing process. Its a healing process that will happen over time and frankly the medias expectations that the day after the indiana primary and everybody got out of the race everything was going to come together in one moment, it was unrealistic. Trump understands this. Whats important to him is that he union nice the party, union nice the voters and union nice the Republican Party. Remember, he ran as an outsider, he ran as somebody who was representing the peoples interests who were frustrated with the gridlock in washington. He wasnt a candidate of the leaders. So to expect everything to come together the day after the primary process ended, it was a bit unrealistic, but frankly im very pleased to say that its happening even faster than we thought. Many of the candidate who ran against him are moving behind him, endorsing his candidacy expressing support for it. Party leadership in the congress as well as members of congress is coming together. The governors are coming together. Paul the process is happening faster than we thought. Paul, does evening that its important that the party be unified Going Forward . He thinks its important that the country be unified and that his appeal be presented in such a way that his message is clear, but of course, he is the head of the Republican Party, he wants the party to get behind him and support him. There has never been a candidate a no, maam fee for president of the United States who had every republican supporting him and everybody accepting every single position of a president ial candidate. Ronald reagan had the same issues when he was trying to put the Party Together in 1980. So its a process. It will be fine. Weve got plenty of time now. There will be no contested convention, we have plenty of time to put the Party Together and i think you will see a successful united party in cleveland and they will be ready to take on Hillary Clinton. Paul, there are real differences between trump and ryan, ryan is said to be offended by some of the things that your candidate has said about women and muslims and hispanics, there are substantive differences on issues like trade and entitlement reform. How far is trump willing to go to sign on to the agenda of paul ryan . Well, lets make something very clear. Donald trump just won a republican primary. He won it overwhelmingly. The largest turnouts in the history of Republican Voters in all of the primaries and he is the historic leader now of getting votes as a republican nominee. So its his agenda that has just been cemented as what the American People or at least republicans and independents who voted for him want. There will be a process. There will be meetings of minds. Theres a lot that unites the leadership in the congress as well as donald trump, but the important thing to remember is the National Head of the party is the nominee of the Republican Party. He just won that overwhelmingly, faster than anybody in washington thought and running as an outsider against washington. So his agenda is the peoples agenda. He made it very clear his vision was clear, he articulated it very well, there is no doubts to where he stands. All right. I want to turn to another subject. Trump had said that he was not going to go after Hillary Clinton and her personal life unless she went after him. That in effect as he likes to say he would counter punch, but then yesterday out in Washington State he went off on clinton about the way she treated the women that bill clinton had had an affair with. Lets put it up. Shes married to a man who was the worst abuser of women in the history of politics. Hillary was an enabler and she treated these women horribly. Just remember this. And some of those women were destroyed not by him, but by the way that Hillary Clinton treated them after everything went down. First of all, what specifically did Hillary Clinton do to those women . Look, this is a clear case. Donald trump has made it very clear he is not going to allow hypocrisy on the womens issue, he is not going to let hillary make the case that he is against women and sh he is this defending of womens rights. His Business Empire is he has put many women in leadership positions, jendser, race respectfully i asked you what did Hillary Clinton do to those women . He says she destroyed their lives. How . I will let him speak to it. The point is that, you know, the history is clear, shes an an enabler in the past, i will let him speak to those issues. The point is he made it very clear he was not going to let hypocrisy exist on a womens issue. He is no the antiwomen, he is very pro women, he has proven it in his Business Life and proven it more so than her because he has proven it with actions not words. For her to go after him on being antiwomen, hes going to go back and talk about some of the things that she did that are less than consistent as far as being pro women. Trump also this week got into a nasty twitter war with democratic senator Elizabeth Warren. Now, to be fair, she started it, shear is one of ore tweets. Donald trump has built his campaign on racism, sexism and xenophobia, but trump hired back i help corrupt Hillary Clinton chooses goofedy Elizabeth Warren as her running mate, i will defeat them both. If youre trying to win over women and do have a problem with women according to the polls do you really want to take on a fight with two of them. Clinton and warren. He has taken on a fight with two politicians using political terms and being hit krits about it. As far as womens issues are concerned thats the point he is making he is not going to allow Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren to hide behind their sex to make cases that are hypocritical. And how is Elizabeth Warren being hypocriticahypocritical, involved in the Clinton Affairs . The statements that she was making there were totally out of bounds and he gave it back to her. If she cant take it thats her problem. During the primaries trump made a big deal out of the fact that he was selffunding his campaign and also he said that other candidates, almost all of the other candidates who did take money from big donors he said were puppets. Here he is. One of the things were doing and one of the things im doing is im selffunding my campaign so i cant be bought. But now he announced this week that he wont be completely selffunding, that he is going to be raising some money, so does that mean that he can be bought . Were talking now about the general election. He made the case very clear that he wanted to be the nominee of the Republican Party with no question as to whose interests he was defend, he was defending the peoples interests and they rallied behind that message and he selffunded his campaigns to the tune of millions of dollars. Now we are entering into the general election where he is the head of the party and will be electing not just the president , but senators, congressmen, and the democrats have said theyre going to be spending hundreds of millions of dollars to try to spread lies about donald trump and the Republican Party. Trump has said to compete against them he will support the party and the partys efforts to raise money. He wont allow the distorted process which he doesnt agree with to be used against other republicans as well as him. He named his own not republican but trump finance chair, a fellow named stiff minucin, some of that money thats going to be raised is going to go to trump not just the party. Its going to be the president ial Campaign Trump being the head of the ticket, that is correct. Donald trump is committed to not letting Hillary Clinton be elected president , not leather nancy pelosi become speaker of the house and harry reid and democratic democrats be head of the senate to nominate maybe four justices to the supreme court. So he is not he said as head of the party he has a responsibility now, not just to himself but to the party to make sure these disastrous policies of the democrats never get a chance to be just to be clear because hes still going to be taking money from big donors, so in that sense forget whether he didnt say im not going to be bought in the primaries but i will be bought in the general election, why is it that he wont be bought if hes taking that money . The one you need to look at being pout is look at Hillary Clinton who has been taking money all along, who is giving secret speeches at Goldman Sachs and other places, thats who you need to talk about being bought. Donald trump has proven in the primary process he put his money where his mouth is. He was nominated to be the republican nominee by the people based on a selffunded campaign. His interests now are united only with the Republican Party against the liberal agenda of the Democratic Party. A pro Clinton Super pac is already running web videos that are contrasting Trumps Campaign promises with his actual business practices. Here is a clip. Washington is broken. The truth is im doing damn well in life but if youre going to achieve anything you have to take action. Until now you could only enjoy steaks of this quality in one of my resort thats going to change quickly. Well cut taxes for the middle class, negotiate new trade deals. Were going to teach you business, were going to teach you life. Now, that group, priorities u. S. A. , has reserved 90 million in tv time between now and the general election to run a series of ads, not web videos, but ads on television and its pretty clear, i think you would agree, paul, that theyre going to go after trump the same way that the democrats and obama went after mitt romney in 2012 which is to say he got rich while exploiting the little guy. And the question i have is when they go after trumps bankruptcies and trump university, how is trump going to handle that . Look, Donald Trumps businesses employ hundreds of thousands of people that you call the little people. I called them the little guy. The little guy. I mean, the point s you know, hes got a record of creating jobs for people, of helping people rise up in business and this campaign will talk about those things. Yes, the democrats will try to distort his record, we know that is correct thats precisely the reason why the republicans have got to come together, be well if undered to deal with the hypocrisy, to deal with the lies and the distortions. Paul, thank you. Thanks for taking the time today. We very much appreciate it. Thank you. Up next we will bring in our sunday group to discuss trumps big meeting with paul ryan this week. Plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the challenge trump faces in union fieg the gop . Just go to facebook or at what timer Fox News Sunday and we may use your question on the air. Were out of ink. Ink. Not ink. Getting ink doesnt have to be painful. Staples just cut ink and toner prices. Add in our 110 price match guarantee and our prices are unbeatable. Staples. Make more happen. Im just not ready to do that at this point. Im not there right now. And i hope to, though, and i want to, but i think what is required is that we unify this party. House Speaker Paul Ryan delivering a highly unusual rebuke of this partys presumed nominee. Its time for our fox sunday brit. Brit hume. Julie pace who covers the exhaust and campaign for the associated press. Kimberley strassel from the wall street journal and charles lane of the washington post. Brit, how serious is this split between trump and ryan . I have to say i found it interesting today that Paul Manafort was making it clear who is the head of the party and it isnt paul ryan in his mind, and what do you expect from their big meeting on thursday . Well, you know, i think that this is an excellent example of how divided this party is and is likely to remain. After all, remember what trump said, he said i dont support paul ryans agenda. Paul ryans agenda is essentially the current conservative agenda. He is a true blue conservative. Donald trump ran as Something Else and he ran to gather the support of people who are alienated and deeply disappointed in the Republican Leadership in washington. Now comes the moment, does he need to pull these people who are part of the party establishment, if you will, find him . He, i think, believes he doesnt have to. If they want to get on board with him, great, but he doesnt seem to be willing to adjust his i waf looking at things, his agenda, his issue positions, his sense of what the constitution requires to accommodate them and to bring them forward. Do you think that he can run as a free agent basically aside and apart from the Republican Party establishment . I think he thinks he can. But do you think he can . Well, i think that if you look at his numbers he needs every vote he can get. After all, mitt romney got, what, 93 of the republican vote. With trump so deeply under water with women, hopelessly under water with hispanics, africanamericans and others, i think, you know, hes got to figure out how to make it all add up to give him some kind of a majority and if he begins basically by turning off a lot of, you know, mainstream republicans, i dont see how he gets there. Now, maybe you know, maybe he can maybe he can find in this country so many alienated blue collar democrats that will come to his cause that he can win, but i doubt it. Meanwhile, president obama piled on this week making his first comments about trump since he became the Presumptive Republican nominee and he challenged Republican Voters. Here he is. We are in serious times and his is a really serious job. This is not entertainment. It is not a reality show. This is a contest for the presidency of the United States. Julie, how big a role does president obama plan to play in this campaign . And he seems to take particular delight and he has actually for a few years now in going after well, i guess since the birther issue in going after donald trump. I think if the president has his way he will play a very large role in in campaign. Right now the Clinton Campaign would like to see him play a large role, they think that he is still an effective messenger for democrats, for young voters, for africanamericans who clinton would need in a general election, but i think whats interesting with both obama and clinton in the last week or so is you hear them making these specific appeals to Republican Voters, clinton talked about thoughtful republicans, and they think that with trump at the top of the republican ticket that they could appeal to people who may not believe in policy positions that clinton had, but at least would feel comfortable that she wouldnt necessarily drive the country into a ditch and may be able to come around and vote for her for at least one term. Do you think its personal with obama . I do. I really do. You have to remember when trump was leading the Birther Movement in obamas first term what a shot at the president s credibility that was and i think that he is surprised and his staff is surprised that trump has gone from being this show man on the side of the political arena to actually now the presumptive nominee. And if he were to be succeeded by donald trump as president , what would that say about obama and his stewardship of the country as well . We asked you for questions for the panel and we got a bunch like these from craig on facebook who writes no wonder the gop is dying. Party members would rather let a democrat win than vote for a nonperfect candidate. No wonder we the people are uprising. Kim, how do you answer craig and, you know, there is this interesting question because were talking about all the negatives, but the fact is that trump ran as the antiestablishment candidate, now he is getting hammered by the bushes and by romney and lindsey graham, they say they cant support trump, in a sense doesnt that certify him as the outsider . Look, when we talk about a nonperfect candidate i keep hearing everyone talk about trumps agenda. Paul manafort was on saying his agenda and he articulate it had so well. What bart of that agenda are we talking about . When we put out his tax plan or when he disavowed it this week and said he wasnt a big fan of his own tax plan. When he said we cannot raise the minimum wage and then turned around this week and said we probably can do it after all. This is why paul ryan cannot support donald trump at the moment because he is a conviction politician who believes in certain ideals. Those voters out there who have an understanding of the Republican Party as something that has certain principles will not be able to rally behind this person and, yes, some of them obama is on to something, there will be a number who look and say i would rather have somebody who had a consistent viewpoint, maybe not one i agree with than one i dont know what he is going to say from one day to the next. Do you really think they are going to go to this meeting, the nominee of the party, chairman of the National Committee and speaker of the house theyre going to sit down and come out and basically say no deal. I dont think that there will be a deal, but, look, what paul ryan essentially did here is he sort of said this is a little bit of a test. Youve got to go out and prove that you can get the people who are the foundation of our party. Because nothing is set in stone really. I mean, in the reality it is that we keep talking about him as the presumptive nominee in a race where everything has been up for grabs, anything could happen, there are a lot of delegates out there who still do not support donald trump, no knows what could happen . I want to pivot this conversation a bit with you, chuck. I want to take a look, it was a fascinating story this week in the wall street journal at the electoral map which shows just the enormous advantage that democrats begin with. All the states that you see there in blue, particularly on the east coast and the west coast have voted democratic for the last six elections in a row. They represent 242 electoral votes, just 28 shy of a majority. All the states in red have voted republican for those same six straight elections, thats 102 electoral votes or 168 shy of a majority. Chuck, the only way the only way that trump can possibly win is to flip om of those blue states that have voted six times in a row like michigan, like pennsylvania, like wisconsin. Theres two theories about that. Trumps theory s look, im talking about immigration, im talking about trade, tho are issues that resonate in the rust belt, which are the areas you just described, and so i can bring people who used to vote democratic over to the republican side. Thats the trump theory of the case. The case that i think is a little bit more correct is that that might work if he didnt have all the other negatives going against him because he is going to push or at least right now he is pushing women away, he is pushing even in those heavily white states there are a number of hispanics, those are all pushed away. In other words, the question that i think that it all revolves around is does he bring in more than he pushes away. Right now it looks like hes pushing away more than hes bringing in and those relative handful of red states that you showed there is really all he can count on. Let me argue a different theory of the case, brit, in the time we have left, which would be there is a huge disgust with washington and the establishment, with he see it not only on the republican side, we also see it on the democratic side with bernie sanders. Hillary clinton represents that, shes nd been around for, what, a quarter of a century and there may be just a sense of, you know, well try it and if hes no good well fire him in four years. Certainly trumps great advantage is that the democratic nominee is weak, discredited, old in the sense of people having known her for a long time. You know, he has terrible negatives, hers are not as bad as his, but theyre pretty bad. So her weakness is a tremendous asset to him and gives him at least a chance to appeal to voters who might be peeled away to go to him, but remember this about him, chris, this is above all this trump mania, is a cult of personality and the people who support him basically what they believe in is whatever he says and if he changes his mind theyll believe that, too. I just dont know how many people are willing to get on that train. You know, people with convictions, people who are conservative and all that. When your negatives are as bad as his with as many groups as he has the bad negatives the first thing you shouldnt do is alienate the conservatives in the Republican Party. It is, after all, still to this day a conservative party. All right. We have to take a break here but we will see you all a little later, panel. Up next we will sit down with North Carolina governor pat mccrory who is facing a federal deadline tomorrow to suspend a state law limiting bathroom access to transgender people. What do you think, should the federal Government Cut off funds to North Carolina over a law it says violate civil rights. Let me know on facebook or twitter Fox News Sunday and use the hashtag last fns. Fns. F. Coming up, another american has been lost in the war on terror. These risks will continue. And we greatly regret his loss. Well ask our sunday panel about our deepening role fighting isis coming up on Fox News Sunday. Man 1 i came as fast as i could. Whats up . Man 2 this isnt public yet. Man 1 what isnt . Man 2 weve been attacked. Man 1 the network . Man 2 shhhh. Man 1 when did this happen . Man 2 over the last six months. Man 1 how did we miss it . Man 2 we caught it, just not in time. Man 1 who . How . Man 2 not sure, probably offshore, foreign, pros. Man 1 what did they get . Man 2 what didnt they get. Man 1 i need to call mike. Man 2 dont use your phone. Its not just security, its defense. Bae systems. The state of North Carolina faces a deadline tomorrow to stop enforcement of its new law that people are must use bathrooms of the gender on their birth certificates. The Justice Department says that law violates the federal Civil Rights Act and is threatening to cut off billions of dollars in federal funds if the state refuses to comply. Joining me now is North Carolina governor pat mccrory. Governor, welcome to Fox News Sunday. Thanks for having me, chris. I appreciate it. Lets start with this deadline that you face tomorrow to suspend implementation of the socalled bathroom law or to face the potential loss of billions of dollars in state funding. Governor, what are you going to do . First of all, the bathroom law only applies to government buildings or schools and our universities and highway rest stops. It doesnt apply to anyone in the private sector. In fact, our ruling says that the government shouldnt make bathroom laws for anyone in the private sector. Understood. Thats up to the private sector. What ive asked for, i asked for friday, was an extension. They gave the ninth largest state in the United States, the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, three working days to respond to a pretty complex letter and to a pretty big threat. Well, we dont think three working days is enough to respond to such a threat from did they respond to your request for an extension . Yes, they said no, unless we will give you a one week extension if the governor admits publicly that the ruling that their language regarding bathrooms does, in fact, discriminate. Well, im not going to publicly announce that something discriminates which is agreeing with their letter because were really talking about a letter in which theyre trying to define gender identity and there is no clear identification or definition of gender identity. The federal government is being a bully, its making law and by their interpretation. So you asked for an extension of a week. Right. They said no. Right. I have a copy of the letter, too, and they say youve got to make a decision on whether or not youre going to step away from house bill 2, this law. Right. By the close of business tomorrow. So what are you going to do . First of all, i dont have the authority to change the laws as governor of the United States, thats or as governor of North Carolina, that is made by the North Carolina legislature. So theyve already made one unrealistic expectation. And second theyve also sent a letter to our universities and our university by state law has to go to the board of governors which cannot meet until tuesday. So this unrealistic deadline by the federal government is quite amazing to the ninth largest state, but i will make a decision within the next 24 hours on how to respond to them. I believe i have until 5 00 tomorrow. And how are you going to decide . Im discussing all of our legal options, all of our political options, because frankly there are two ways the federal government can determine this, one is a bathroom policy determined by the congress and signed by the president , or a dictate from a Regulatory Agency in the United States federal government. Im trying obviously im doing my job im trying to pin you down. Sure. Are you willing to rule out at this point that you will disavow and however you phrase it in effect say im walking away from this law . Im looking at all my options and one thing the nation has to realize this is no longer just a North Carolina issue. This order, this letter by the Justice Department is saying that every company in the United States of america that has over 15 employees are going to have to abide by the federal governments regulation on bathrooms. So now the federal government is going to tell almost every private Sector Company in the United States who can and who cannot come into their bathrooms, their restrooms, their shower facilities for their employees, and theyre also telling every university in the United States of america. This is not just North Carolina. They are now telling every university that accepts federal funding that boys who may think they are a girl can go into a girls locker room or restroom or shower facility and that begins, i assume, tomorrow. Governor, you call this a case of washington overreach and i want to explore that with you. Yes. Would it be overreach for the Justice Department to send you a letter like this to say, you cannot have bathrooms in the state capital one for white and one for black . I dont think there is any correlation between the two and i think but would you agree that that is within the federal governments purview . Absolutely, but we can definitely define the race of people. Its very hard to define transgender or gender identity. But the point is the reason i ask is that the Justice Department says that just like whites and blacks that transgender people are a protected class. Right. That has a legal meaning, a protected class under the 1964 civil rights law. Thats what they say but thats not what the federal law says. The federal law uses the term sex and congress does not define sex as including gender identity or other terms that the Justice Department has currently used. So right now the Justice Department is making law for the federal government as opposed to enforcing law. It sounds like basically you are going to challenge this in court. We are looking at all our options but we also want to get feedback from the Business Community throughout the nation thats going to be impacted by this and all universities throughout the nation impacted by this. We are literally talking about billions of dollars if it is challenged i assume there is no way im not going to risk any money for the state of North Carolina and now even the dot, the national the Dot Department of transportation. Department of transportation here in washington is doing press releases saying theyre examining whether they can take away North Carolinas money for roads and other Transportation Needs over a bathroom issue. I will get to the money in a second. How many cases, how many cases have you had in North Carolina in the last year where people have been convicted of using transgender protections to commit crimes in bathrooms . This wasnt a problem. Thats the point im making. Th Democratic Party and the left wing of the Democratic Party but have there been any cases. Not that im aware of. Have there been any cases in the last five years. Why did the Democratic Party in houston, texas forgive me, if i may, sir. Why not just then let it go if theres not a case of transgender people going in and molesting little girls i havent used that at all. This is an issue of expectation you did say a boy who thinks he is a girl going into a girls bathroom. Thats where there is an expectation of privacy. When you go into a restroom or your wife goes into a restroom you assume the only other people going into that restroom or shower facility is going to be a person of the same gender. Thats been an expectation of privacy that all of us have had for years. If there is no problem why pass the law in the first place. There can be a problem because the liberal democrats are the ones pushing for bathroom laws and now president obama and one of my successors as mayor charlotte wants government to have bathroom rules. Im not interested in that. We did not start this on the right. Who started it was the political left in houston, texas, then charlotte, North Carolina, and now frankly in washington, d. C. Lets talk about the issue of money because North Carolinas attorney general, roy cooper who coincidentally is running against you for governor in your reelection fight in year says you made a big mistake signing this law. Here he is. Not only is this new law a national embarrassment, it will set North Carolinas economy back if we dont repeal it. Now, youre campaigning against cooper for reelection in large part on what you call the carolina come back, which is the fact that there has been dramatic Economic Growth in carolina over the last few years. Lets take a look at the fallout from this law. Paypal canceled a 400 job operations center. This is since the law has passed and you signed it in march. Deutsch bank shelved plans for facilities that would have employed 250 people. One study found the law has cost North Carolina 77 million and 750 jobs. Governor, you say you are not going to risk money. All this has happened just since march. Let me first say North Carolina has had the greatest economic recovery in the United States of america, more than any other state. But this isnt good. Let me finish the sentence, chris. And then second i need to say paypal, for example, is kind of selective hypocrisy and selective outrage. This is the same Paypal Company that did business in sudan, did business in iran, did business in saudi arabia and theyre lecturing North Carolina because the majority of North Carolinaians, i believe, think a man who is a man ought to use the restroom that is on the door and same thing applies to women. This is especially true in our schools, in our junior highs, in our high schools. This is a basic change of norms that weve used for decades throughout the United States of america and the Obama Administration is now trying to change that norm. Again, not just in North Carolina, but they are ordering this to every company in the United States of america starting tomorrow, i assume, or tuesday and also making this an order for every university in the United States of america. Governor mccrory, thank you, thanks for flying here today and talking with us. Of course, we will be looking forward to finding out what you decide and what you say by the close of business tomorrow. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Good to talk with you. Thank you. Coming up, a navy seal was killed in iraq this week after getting caught in a fire fight with isis. Is the u. S. War on terror becoming more of a combat mission . Well bring back our sunday group. These people are in combat, senator, and i think that we need to say that clearly. Defense secretary ash carter telling a Congressional Committee about the increased u. S. Military role in the fight against isis. We are back now with the panel. Well, we got bad news this week, Navy Seal Charles Keating iv was can ild in northern iraq, he is the third u. S. Service member to die since the campaign against isis began. Brit, the white house continues to say this is not a combat mission, isnt that getting to be harder and harder to maintain . Yes, it is, chris, but i dont think we should be believing here that what we really have is some kind of a covert serious major combat undertaking. The president is clearly doing this in very, very maul steps and i dont think he intends to go beyond that. Youre always reminded of the slippery slope that weve encountered in other conflicts where you start with a few and the next thing you know its a few more and pretty soon its many and pretty soon you are in a fullfledged combat role. I dont sense that that will come here. It is getting a little silly for the white house to say that this is not combat and you have the secretary of defense saying Something Else. Thats just absurd. I dont think we should believe that president obama is going to be i waging any wars here. President obama currently announced that hes sending 250 more special ops forces, i think there were already 50 on the ground, but 250 more special ops forces to syria, our military advisors are working more closely with iraqi troops and closer to the front lines on battlefield decisions, we have a10s and f16s dropping bombs on isis positions. Forget the critics who may think they are either doing too much or too little. They white house do they worry about the slippery slope and Mission Creep and that were slowly getting sucked back into a greater involvement . I think they are mindful of it. But it gets to brits point, they are mindful of it in the sense that they do not want to get into a position and have our military posture be like it was under the Bush Administration in the middle east. That is always the thing that they look at as the barrier. I think what youve seen happen, though, is they sometimes take smaller steps to avoid the idea that they are on a slippery slope and that they are building toward some kind of larger combat role. You do have to ask, 100 people, 200 people how much difference does that make . Should they be going larger and do not go larger because they want to avoid the idea of being on a slippery slope. They are in a mess of their own making, kim, in that if you send these troops in small numbers into iraq and syria some people are going to say, you know, its a bandaid, on the other hand if they send more the people are saying, well, you know, they are not doing enough. You go back to june 2014, the president said he was going to send 275 uniformed personnel. We are now up to more than 4,100 in iraq. By the way, people in congress say that the number is actually quite higher because of the way they do temporary troop rotations and the white house is hiding the real numbers over there. We are at a war. The president doesnt want to admit it because he doesnt want to have to come out he promised the American People this was not something he was going to do. He is sliding along hoping to the end of the term because he wants his legacy to be able to say i pulled us out. In the meantime his vow to dismantle isis, he has not committed the enforcements that you need there to make that happen and now the conflict is spreading to syria, afghanistan, everywhere you look. Kim, i want to turn to a revealing profile in todays New York Times sunday magazine, its about ben rhodes who is not a household name, but he is one of president obamas top Foreign Policy advisors. Rhodes says the white house spun a false narrative to sell the Iran Nuclear Deal claiming that they had worked with moderates when rouhani took over when in fact they had been dealing for two years before that with the hardliners, even including ahmadinejad and the supreme leader. How big a deal that youve got the president S Deputy National security adviser basically saying we misled the American People on how this all came down . Big deal because that is in essence what they are saying, that the president had the objective from the minute he walked into office of cutting a deal with iran so that he could further disengage from the region and then use the excuse of this election in which everyone understood that there were not moderates necessarily elected, this was not some major change in the regime there, but they spun that to the public as an excuse to then pull the pin on this. Revealing although not necessarily surprising for anybody who has actually watched this administration because their Foreign Policy does tend to be mostly spin. Does it make a difference . In other words, does it make the Iran Nuclear Deal more objectionable to know that they began negotiating it with it was objectionable from the start, yeah, and now we just know that in fact what drove that deal were not in fact a series of imperatives about how we were, in fact, trying to change the behavior of the iranians, but simply getting a deal, which is not one thats in the longterm benefit of the United States or any of the members of the region. And rhodes also brags in this piece, its worth looking at, its online, about how the white house was able to get the media to tell its narrative. This is what rhodes said, this was a quote from him in the article, the average reporter we talked to is 27 years old and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. Thats a c change, they, those 27yearold reporters im glad to say im not one of them they literally know nothing. Chuck, what do you think of that . Well, you know, its not new that a white house would spin reporters and try to mold them to its narrative. Its a little new that they would be to brazen about it and its really new that they would brag and express such contempt for the media that they deal with. I must say that description he offers of the people he was dealing with could almost have fit ben rhodes himself when he arrived at the white house. He was a little older than 27 but he had no particular Foreign Policy experience and had come up through campaigns. You know, there used to be and prided himself on being a novelist, a story teller. A storyteller and somebody who was unburdened really by political rather Foreign Policy experience. Dont we know it. Another thing he says in this piece is that theres something in washington that he calls the blob which is all the talking heads and Foreign Policy establishment people. It was a refreshing dose of i remember ref rans by ben rhodes there, the people had made a lot of mistakes in iraq and i can understand that, but nevertheless there were some reason seasoned people like leon panetta and bob gates who helped this president or at least tried to and probably dont deserve to be thought of as part of a blob. Julie, have you since this article come out came out have you talked to people at the white house . Yeah, i mean, its interesting because this white house really prides themselves on being the smartest kid in the room. Thats kind of their approach to so many things, they take that approach in dealing with the media, capitol hill, think tanks. I think what you saw in this article is a little bit about how the sausage ask made which is kind of an ugly thing to look at, but i think that they look at this article and they will probably take the criticism of it which is plenty and coming from people even friendly to them as another example of how washington doesnt get what the Obama Administration is trying to do. They really have this attitude frankly that they are the only smart ones in town and the only ones who understand the goals here. I thought you were going to tell me that they are in a cold fury about what ben rhodes said. No. I think that they are if anything being pretty defensive of what he said, maybe they dont necessarily like the way he said some of it, but i dont necessarily think that they disagree with the larger message of the piece and what he was saying. It is a different world in which we live when a white house staffer promoted in this piece as someone who is largely anonymous who has actually been anything but anonymous, he is one of the most widely quoted figures in washington allows a profile like this to come out and build him up and which i think the white house probably approves of and agrees with most of what he said especially about the media. I think its, you know they didnt realize that the criticism was coming and, julie, youve said that is correct and here it is and i think they are a little surprised by it because i think this is their little star, this young whipper snab snapper, mart though he may be, ben rhodes going out. A 27yearold doesnt talk about whipper snappers. Im sort of the opposite. We all are. Im 72, right . I think this is something different. And its a reflection of the president himself. In fact, rhodes is said to be in a constant state of mind meld with the president and says with the article he doesnt know where the president ends and he begins or vice versa. Like a blob. A blob, yes. These are quite extravagant claims this young man makes for himself here. Maybe theyre true but whats remarkable about it is that the white house is on board it seems to me with all of it. Thank you, panel. See you nt sunday. Up next, our power player of the week, the designer of hand painted fine chyna thats used at the white house and buckingham palace. Ina thats us at the white house and buckingham palace. There are certain designers whose names signify quality and elegance, whether in dresses or buildings or other objects we live with. Here is our power player of the week. I decided that i will do something, which is not practical, not sensible. That is the unique business philosophy of Anna Weatherley, a world famous designer of fine china, whose signature are butterflies and flowers and even bugs that are all painted by hand. I left the mass market to the mass market. I just want to be very different from any other designer or manufacturer. If youre curious who eats off Anna Weatherley plates, there are 75 place settings in the white house. Its taken from the magnolias, the big trees that you can see both from the blue room and the yellow room. And there was a special commission to create 250 plates. This was a dinner for the prince of whales at buckingham palace. How did that make you feel . Its an absolute fairytale. Anna showed us what a table of her creations looks like, a wondrous garden of plants and flowers and butterflies. Its a happy table and i cannot took, so, therefore, if i set the table i can put the canned soup in one of those plates and people will think its a gourmet food. Born in hungary dana started out designing dresses in the 70s that were just as beautiful and impractical. Look how pretty that is. Silk sieve gone and hand painted. You must flint when you have this on. Never pay for dinner. In 1990 she opened a small china studio in budapest with 20 artists who each specialized. Butterflies or bugs and these are the womens work and the big flowers are painted by the guys. Shes just as meticulous when it comes to leaves which must have little holes or ragged edges where the bugs have lunch. So you would be unhappy if this was a perfect leaf. Boring. Very boring. Just a plain old green leaf. This precision takes time. A place setting of six pieces can take her studio three days. How many does a single Anna Weatherley plate cost . Just one single plate is between 200 to 400. Why would somebody spend 400 for a plate . Because they love it. If you would like to buy a piece of art and put it on your table thats the only time you buy it, otherwise dont buy it. Its not a plate, its a hand painted object. Annas work is based on 17th and 18th century botanical art. She says the 19th century is too modern. She has created her own world and she couldnt be happier. I dont live in the 20th century. I cannot drive. I dont do anything high tech. And i just live in my world of beautiful impractical not sensible. And this spring anna had another project, she designed the official easter egg for the White House Historical association. And thats it for today. For all you moms, especially mine, have a wonderful mothers day and we will see you next Fox News Sunday. They found out whos been hacking into our network. Who . Guess. I dont know, some kids in a basement . You watch too many movies. Who . A Small Business in china. A business . They work nine to five. They take lunch hours. Like a job . Like a job. We tracked them. 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