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Would you and would most of the members of the Freedom Caucus support paul ryan for speaker . We have endorsed Daniel Webster, but paul ryan is a good man, a great communicator, the kind of messenger our pare neither, and i think our group would look favorably on him. Were much more concerned about reforming the institution. Its about whats going to change the business as usual attitude around there, changing that is foremost on our minds. And thats what were focused on. So simplify it, one of the things youre talking about is who gets on what committee, also control over what bills come to the floor, what amendments come up, a lot of is decentral sax of power. Totally. Are you saying paul rye yarn would have to agree to that . I think the next speaker has to be committed to that. I know Daniel Webster is, but heres a great example, the Steering Committee, they decide who is on what committees, they have all the power and also dish out the punishment. Tim huelskamp, a congressman from kansas, a place where they have a bit of agriculture, was kicked off the agriculture committee, because he wouldnt do what the top people in the house told him to do. Kicked off the agriculture committee, and he has a ph. D. In agriculture policy. That kind of stuff has to stop. When you have that kind of environment, i would argue its not conducive to producing the results we told the voters we were going to go when they gave us a chance to serve them. If paul ryan wont agree, and well talk to Newt Gingrich in a moment, that considerable decentralization of power in the house, will you and other members of the caucus support him . I think he will agree to that. I think the next speaker has to agree. 60 of our voters think we have betrayed them, not disappointed, not slightly offtrack, weve betrayed them. We had need a shakeup. So i think the next speaker will want to make those kind of changes. Think about that Steering Committee for a second. On the Steering Committee, the speaker gets to vote five times. If Chris Wallace is a member of congress and on the Steering Committee, you get one vote, but the speaker gets to vote five times. Where in the world does that kind of format work . Thats the stuff that has to change. Let me ask you about the issue, because some members of your caucus are already raising questions about ryan even before he decided to run. They talk about the fact he was working at one point to try to create a compromise on comprehensive immigration reform. They say theys like boehner, in that he also would oppose measures that would end of leading to a Government Shutdown or default on our national debt. How big a problem are those positions that ryan has taken . Look, as i said before, paul ryan is a friend. I meet with him every single week. We talk about policy. I think he would be a great messenger. If he comes to our group and talks to us, i think our group might be favorable, but were not there yet. We know Daniel Webster. He took a model that he defused that kind of power and empowered the members. I think whoever the next speaker s. Paul ryan or anyone else, has to go to that kind of model. Thats the environment thats going to be most conducive to producing the results we told the voters we would do, to fighting for those republican principles that we were elected to fight for. Heres the problem, congressman. Republican establishment types call your group the hellno caucus, or the suicide caucus, and they say theyre more interested in ideological war fare than you are in governing. If i may let me just finish the question. The fact is you keep talking about the obstacles or the tests youre going to put up. Youre just 40 members of a 247member caucus at some point, dont you and your members have to bow to the will of the majority of republicans . Of course were willing to compromise, but what we need in the house, what i think the American People are demanding, what our voters are demanding is lets not forfeit for the white house before the ref blows the whistle. Lets not forfeit before the game start. Lets establish the position, come together, compromise, figure out what we can agree on and let go stand for that position, lets have the debate in a compelling way and take the case to the white house, take the case to the United States senate. Thats what our voters expect. It seems all too often we say the president is demanding this, we have to give in before the game even starts. Thats what the next speaker has to do. Thats what were pushing for. Of course we understand we have to compromise, but when we compromise to come up with a position, lets go fight for it. Finally, congressman, you are a member of the house benghazi committee, of course Hillary Clinton will testify before that committee on october 22nd, shes already attacking your committee, taking advantage of Kevin Mccarthys remarks to indicate this is all about politics. Here she is. This was set up to be a political partisan attack on me. Its really sad to me that whether its Womens Health or in this case, the death of four americans serving our countries, that the republicans in congress try to partisanize and exploit these events. First of all, how do you respond to clinton and how do you respond to in charges of a former staff member, an Army Reserve Major who says he quit the committee, because it had turned into a partisan attack on Hillary Clinton . This committee has always been about getting to the truth. The american taxpayers, the American People deserve the truth, and the families of the four individuals who gave their life for the condition that night. Those families want to know the truth. Thats what were focused on. I would say this. Since the whole email story broke back in march, we have interviewed 33 witnesses, only one of those witnesses dealt specifically with the email issue. That was the shortest interview of all, because that witness took the fifth. So we have been focused on our mission the entire time, 50,000 new documents we have received that none of the other committees got. 41 eyewitness interviews, its always been about the truth. Thats what were going to continue to do. In 30 seconds, i said Army Air Force reserve major, who says he was fired from the committee because it had turned into and he objected to the fact it had turned into a partisan attack . Thats the point im making. When you interview 33 people since the whole email scandal broke about secretary clinton and 32 of those have been about benghazi, the only one about the email scandal was the guy who took the fifth, i think that shows what we were focused on the assignment and the objective, which is to simply get to the truth. Congressman jordan, thank you. Thank for you talking with us. Thank you. Lets turn to former speaker Newt Gingrich, instrumental in 1994, in leading republicans to their first welcome back to pho when you argument do you think he could bring the House Republicans together, to get to the 217 votes that you need . I think congressman majoritien was very candid in outlining paul ryan, who would clearly be the first choice, that theres a path no ryan to unify everybody. That path has to involve significant internal reforms which dont seem obvious to the average voter, but are very central to whether or not individual members have the ability to get things done. We have gone through a period of centralization, where more and more power was residen within fewer and fewer people and they decided to deal with people with punishment. A free society is very tricky to try to govern by punishment. What it leads to is it leads to things like the Freedom Caucus. Do you think ryan should take this job . I think paul should be very cautious. Hes the most prestigious, with the best future, hes still very young. Its easy to get 218 on the first vote, then you get to keeping the government open to a continuing resolution, then you get to the debt ceiling. If youre not careful, by christmas you resemble john boehner. These things are hard. I have suggested that they actually go slower and actually have some daylong conferences and listen to each other. All 247 members won an election. All of them deserve to be heard. Your point is right, when its done, how do you form of continuing ability to get 218 votes in the house so you can in fact pass legislation that has to be passed. I want to talk to you about this decentralization of power, because at various points, you have called jim jordans caucus, the im purer than you caucus. I think you would agree, when you became speaker, you very much centralized power in the Speakers Office and in the leadership. Can the run the house if you basically say, well, the members will decide who is on the committees, the members will decide what legislation is brought up . It sounds good, but its like i dont have to tell you, its like herding cats. John boehner made it harder, as an idealist, he eliminated earmarks. You can no longer say to a member ill give you three projects for your district. A lot of those tools are gone, but youve also got to confront the example he use with huelskamp. Members have to have some sense if they win an election back home, they can bring the views of the voters and have an opportunity to bring the amendment. Committee chairmen hate this idea. They like to bring bills to the floor that nobody has the right to amend, but in the long run it builds real resentment among the members who won elections, too. Youre one of big thinkers, and i want to talk about this from maybe 30,000 feet instead of from ten. We see this antiestablishment, grassroots frustration not only in this fight in congress about who is going to control things or whether there should be as much control, but we see it playing out in the president ial state, and carson and the office holders, and their political experience almost being held as something against them. Whats going on with your party . I dont think its my party. I think its the country. 75 of the gallup poll recently, 75 of the American People says theres widespread corruption in the United States, in the government. The School Superintendent in chicago, for example, now under investigation for taking bribes. George will, a pretty solid guy, saying we should impeach the Internal Revenue service commissioner. Theres a broad sense among three out of four americans that the system is sick, yet 60 of the voters saying they dislike the leadership in congress. 2 said they strong will you approve. Thats a statistical error. So youre living in a world where i would argue the turmoil in the house is clouder to where the country is and thats why you have if the take trump, carson, fiorina and cruz, and cruz is essential an outsider, those forare 60 of the current primary vote. I think you would agree whether its in the president ial race or in the congress on the democratic side the democrats are currently winning. They bureaucracy that agree with them. The democrats are in a position where they have a president doing what they want, its natural for the democrats to be relatively comfortable. If you are a republican conservative, you wake up furious, and you wonder why your party is not doing a better job. Could we end up with the kind of ideological and organizational bloodletting that for instance the democrats went through with George Mcgovern in 1972, where you have a split within the party that the flank wins, and you end up in this case with the republicans losing 49 states . I doubt it, but you might. The reason i doubt it is i think, first of all clinton is likely to be in enormous trouble and therefore youre not in a Lyndon Johnson environment or even nixon prior to watergate, but secondly it may be, and this seems to bother washington a lot. It may be that trump and carson in particular represent a phenomenon that none of us understand. You tell me i can explain trump, because hes really noisy in an age where noise matters, but how then do you explain carson . Both are doing astonishingly well. It should be a reagan experience rather than a goldwater experience. 30 seconds left, i have to ask you about comments you made this week in which you seemed to leave the door open you would be willing to return as speaker of the house, and we have all learned this week you dont have to be a member of the house to be speaker. Are you serious . Our mutual friend sean hannity asked the question in a way that was impossible to say no. If 218 members approached you and said collectively were for you, no citizen would say i would turn that down, but the odds against that happening are enormous, totally implausible, and we are making no plans to return to capitol hill. I was going to ask you, how did calista feel when you told she broke up laughing and said that sean had mousetrapped me. Thank you for coming in. Thank you. Welcome back, and obviously well stay on top of this story. Yes. Up next well bring in the group to discuss this split. And what would you like to ask the panel . Just go to facebook or twitter foxnewssunday, and we may use your question on the air. The artificial heart, this ielectric guitarsdoers, and rockets to the moon. Its the story of america land of the doers. Doin it. Did it. Done. Doers built this country. The dams and the railroads. John henry was a steel drivin man hmm, catchy. They built the golden gates and the empire states. And all this doin takes energy no matter whos doin. Theres all kinds of doin up in here. Or what theyre doin. What the hecks he doin . Energy got us here. And its our job to make sure theres enough to keep doers doin the stuff doers do. To keep us all doin what we do. Right now, bedlam. Its a mess. Ive never seen anything like it. Republicans need to set aside their calendar of chaos, instead join us in a timetable for progress. Donald trump celebrating the turmoil in washington and House Democratic leader nancy pelosi trying to capitalize on it. Its time for our sunday group, syndicated columnist george will, susan page of usa today gop strategist karl rove, and fox news political analyst juan williams. So karl, was going on with House Republicans . Should paul ryan take the job . Will he take the job of speaker . In the immortal words of marty hug United States in the campaign its a mess, and it is a mess. Theres an inirfight, the Freedom Caucus, who you pointed out in your conversation with jim jordan reps nearly 1 out of every 6 republicans wants to run the caucus. The only way they can have influence is in the election of the speaker. You elect the rest by a majority of the republican caucus, but in order to get 218 votes, assuming democrats vote against you, you cant afford to lose 40 republicans. So will paul ryan take it . I dont know. I think there are three big considerations in miss hind and the most important is the last one. One is would had el be more effective as ways and means chairman . I dont think so you. I think you see can do more as speaker, but hi likes that job of ways and means. Could he function as speaker . It so dysfunctional you wouldnt wish this job on your worth enme, but the most important is his family, being speaker over the next year and a half he wont be back in wisconsin on the weekends. But i think at the end of the day there will be pressure for him to do so. He is the one person who can unite the disparate wings and move the caucus move forward with a conservative optimistic agenda. A lot of these people who are today critics of leadership who are soiling themselves when this guy was saying lets do something about entitlements and about the crisis and about spending. We asked you for questions for the panel, and we got this on twitter from female barbarian she writes by the time they are done with the circular firing squad, there would be no capable candidates. How do you answer her . I think paul ryan is the one person in the world who could be the speaker of this particular group of House Republicans. I just finished a book about jack kemp that was written by friends of this show. He of course was a mentor to paul rye yam. What had jack kemp have said . Count me in, send me in coach. So i believe at the end of the day paul ryan will do this, but hes in a position of such strengths to negotiate some deals going in, it will make the job more doable than it is right now. Thats the question, george, is he in a position of strength or not . At you heard jim jordan day, the Freedom Caucus isnt going to bowen say and say come on in. Theyre going to make demands. I think karl put his finger on it, which is yes, you get 218 now, but when you get to the debt limit or the budget or another issue, will you have the joets . A, i dont think so. B, i dont think thats the most consideration. Rarely is this country have the right person in exactly the right place at the right time. The biggest problem confronting the company is economic stagnation, a product of unreformed entitlements and unreformed tax codes. The only person in the government that can take the leadership is there, paul ryan in ways and means. Its now that we have this great orb strat, lets make him conductor. Babe ruth is our best player, lets make him manager of the team. Thats the wrong skill set. Im not saying theyre all fungible, but they could do the job of conducting the business of the house. Leaving aside, and its not our job to think about his family, three children, soon to be three teenagers. John boehner i was told by a leading House Republican was on the road 200 days a year racing money. 220. Before i bring juan in, yes, its nice to be chairman of the house ways and means committee, but in republicans lose their majority in 2017, hes the ranking republican on that committee, so, isnt it important to bring some water in so you can go the to the country and say somebody knows how to play this glam, to use casey stengels line. The the way the districts are drawn, its really hard for the democrats to take control of the house in this decade. So he would be chairman for a while. Why . I mean, what do you make of all of that . Just in response to what george said, next year is a tough year in temperatures of rep senate races. Evening among people who are the most loyal republicans there are real questions. If this company cant govern itself why should i trust them to govern the nation . I think right now you have this kind of, you know, mainstream republicans who may say, you know what . Im sick of all of you. Im just going to stay home. Thats a danger for the republican party. It harms them with independents who are now a larger share of the electoral and certain harms them with conservative reagan democrats who might say, you know what . I cant feel comfortable putting my faith in republicans it raises questions in terms of it is house of representatives, but the larger pictures, the senate, the and even potentially this Freedom Caucus, and then renegades should break off and let us have the mainstream republicans back, because we believe we need another voice. Thats a formula for democrats winning the majority, to have a split party. 169 more republicans in the house today than there were when barack obama was nominated, and were supposed to say it was the republicans in crisis . I dont think so. The house is supposed to be turbulent. The Founding Fathers designed it that way, supposed to be most responsive for the gusts and eddies of popular opinion. I want to end on this exit question. Im told, for all the talk of what the Freedom Caucus is demanding, ryan knows numbers, and secondly theres a lot of pressure being put on by the establishment and business groups, saying that some of those Freedom Caucus members if youre not going to play ball and not get involved, youre going to get a primary opponent. First of ought let me gently agree and disagree with george. I think george is absolutely right that paul ryan has the skill set necessarily to lead the fight on ways and means to reform the tack code and reform entitlements. I agree theres four, five or six other members who could be speaker, the question is could they get elected speaker. Ryan has the unique ability he has respect of the caucus. Im not certain who else is there. There is discussion about this. Part of the discussion, we may end up with john boehner, who is Michael Mccaul is a name thats bubbled up. There are others. I think it will take time to make that discussion, but ultimately it has has to have the ability to draw respect from area parties to function as leader. Will they have to agree i think theres wisdom in what former speaker gingrich said. They to undo some things. Some Freedom Caucus members say we want the ability to have unlimited amendments brought forward on the floor of the house. Well, thats like the senate, and that also guarantees that you turn control over of the house to the democrats. The rules are meant to keep the majoritys strength together. One of the problems is we have some members, huelskamp, for example, who jim jordan talked about, he said he was tossed off the agriculture committee. Why . Because he was on the budget committee. Huelskamp had impact on the mesh irand voted with nancy pelosi. So the desire you cannot have, yeah, everybody can do everything they want to do, even when most of the time youre voting with nancy pelosi. We have to take a break. Well see you a little a little later. Up next the Obama Administration gives up on the plan to train syrians. Plus how do you think the u. S. Should respond to russias escalation . Let me know on facebook or twit er foxnewssunday and use the fns. Cummings up, as democrats take the stage this week, Hillary Clinton fences off more charges over her private email, and she flips on a specific trade deal she pushed. Plus well discuss a new movie that says dan rather was a the situation in syria went from bad to worse this week. President obama gave up on his program to train a new rebel army to take on the assad regime. Russia escalated its offensive against the assad opposition, including launching cruise missiles from almost 1,000 miles away, and isis moved to fill the vacuum created by joins us, Stephen Hadley former National Security adviser to president george w. Bush, and dennis ross, who served under four u. S. President s. Hes out with a new boom doomed to succeed. Welcome back to fox news sunday. Nice to be with you. President obama is on tv this week. He pushes back on the argument that Vladimir Putin is challenging his leadership with his new offensive in syria. Heres a clip. And in hes challenging your leadership, mr. President. Steve, ive got to tell you, if you think that running your economy into the ground and having to send troops in in order to prop up your only ally is leadership, then weve got a different definition of leadership. Ambassador ross, you wrote an article for the Washington Post this week, that putin is filling a vacuum that we created in syria. When you hear president obama is he in denile in. I dont think he recognizes the effect. I also dont think hes fully appreciating that had we act as if every setback is actually not a setback, it sends a message to putin. In a lot of ways we created an impression that we selfdeter d selfdeterred. He sees that we will escalate. We are not prepared to do certain things in syria in response to what hes docks. We wont make it a proxy war. It suggests that were afraid of an escalation. The more he sees that, the more he takes advantage. Those in the region read it that way and have to make their own adjustments. Do they accommodate putin . Do they have to take actions of their own . You look at the way the saudis are operating in yemen, also some that is it could driven by the sense they cant depend on us. I go back to the 60 minutes clip that he says no, i dont think putin is challenging my leadership. Your former colleague, condie rice, and gates, had a very tough piece in the Washington Post where they say this putins move into syria is oldfashioned great power politics. Yes, people do that in the 21st century, is president obama as out of touch with the reality of the Current Situation as rice and gates seem to suggest . I think condie and bob are absolutely right. Putin has gone in to defend assad and defend the syrian regime. He is dealing himself into whatever outcome that you comes out of the middle east, and hes pursuing the agenda hes had for some time, to return russia to the kind of role in the world that the soviet union had during the cold war period. Thats what hes about and thats what hes done in ukraine and that is what he is doing in syria. And president obama is what . You know, the United States has been awol. Its interesting. The republicans and democrat beginning in 2011, who all said if we dont attend to sirria, more people will die, it will be more sectarian, and tell open the door for al qaeda. Thats exactly whats happened. The first stem to remedy the situation is for the United States to be engaged in a humanitarian situation in the fight against isis and in the diplomacy in the region. I want to get first to the specifics about the russians. You say that the russians are creating facts on the ground with their intervention in syria, their support of assad at the expense of the antiassad rebels. You say in effect that the rebels have discontinued, and then the world will be faced with a choice, assad, as unmeened and distasteful as he is, or isis. Is that whats going on . Thats what putin wants to create. What assad has wanted to create since 2011. Assad is the one who basically declared war on his own people. He tried to turn it into its me or the terrorist. It wasnt credible, because in fact the majority of his people in fact were fighting him, because he imposed a war on them. The more you turn it into its either assad or isis, it looks more hes the one that prevents putin wants to create the reality. In fact part of what peet putin is doing is in a sense depopulate syria. What putin is doing is make the refugee crisis dramatically worse, the europeans will also look at how do we cope with this, a problem that putin is creating. But mr. Hadley, the president and the white house keep saying putin is acting out weakness, that russia is going to get involved in a quagmire in syria like they did in afghanistan. Are you as confident as they are that this is a losing for putin . Not at all. Does it look weak to you, what putin is doing in syria . Look at the situation for those Opposition Forces that we have been supporting. Putin says hes coming in for fight isis, in fact hes bombs those opposition members we have supported. At the same time they are being attacked by isis. So theyre fighting a twofront war. What is our policy . Our policy is to limit the amount of military assistance we provide and tell them they cannot attack assad. This is lunacy. It makes no sense. So now lets talk about solutions, because ambassador ross, in your article you say the answer is we should get together with turkey, with the europeans, with the arabs look at this map here and create a safe haven, basically in the shaded area there for Opposition Forces and civilians, but thats almost precisely where russia is striking. If you create a safe haven there, arent you getting into direct conflict with the russians . Theres no pathway at this point that is riskfree. The reality is if we continue on the past we are now, the situation will only get worse. You will create the situation that putin wants. If we ratchet of what hes doing while hes going after the nonislamic state opposition, the reality is we will be in league with the russians perceived as fighting the sunnis. If you want to fight the islamic stays, you need the sunnis. If were in league with the russians, we wont be able to do that . If you were the president , would you would you be prepared to say to putin, this is a nofly zone, and we will enforce it . Yes, we cannot any longer be selfdeterred. The more we are selfdeterred, the situation gets worse and presents us with the worst set of options. The path we are seeing is the one we will continue to see unless we play by the rules that putin understands. You keep talking about engaged and start willing, would you be willing to go as far as dennis ross and say to putin, stay out . I would do that, but i would do two other things as well. One, the United States has a real opportunity to lead the international community, try to provide humanitarian assistance to those countries sheltering syrian refugees. Jordan, turkey, lebanon. Secondly, on the other end, we also need to try to building an International Conference that will talk about the humanitarian process, deconflict the forces, and also try to begin a dialogue about how to get a settlement that will end the civil war in syria. Mr. Hadley, ambassador ross, thank you both. Obviously well keep covering this story. Next up, the democrats are finally ready to hold their first debate. Will the other candidates go after Hillary Clinton . And a new movie portrays dan rather as a hero for a report he did on president bush, a report he later had to apologize for. The panel turns into film critics, when we come right back. The socalled tpp will drive longterm growth across the region. What i know about it, as of today, i am not in favor of what i have learned about it. I dont believe its going to meet the high bar i have set. Hillary clinton this week as a candidate saying she opposes president obamas pacific trade agreement, a deal she pushed when she was secretary of state, that flip coming before just the first democratic debate on tuesday. George, clinton goes in distancing herself from president obama not only on trade, but also on immigration, also on syria, also on a key part of obamacare. Is her apparent move to shore up her left flank before Bernie Sanders, is that smart . Probably. At this point, because the question is how much of this will hurt her down the road. Old political joke, a man takes a forthright position, and at the end of his speech, he said those are my positions, and if you dont like them, ill change them. Thats essentially what shes doing. We may be a 48 48 nation, both parties have 48 of the vote, and shoring up that 48 is maybe what she does right now. The problem is the trump phenomen phenomenon, the carson phenomenon, people are liking for authenticity, and day by day she looks more synthetic. The republicans have already held two debates, the democrats will now hold their first, the argument has been from some democrats that the dnc is trying to protect Hillary Clinton. What do you expect from this debate on tuesday . Will clinton ignore the other candidates . I think the other candidates will probably go after her, but i think her task has nothing to do with the other candidates. Her debate is with herself. He message has been out by the controversies. Shes been on the defensive. Can she articulate why she wants to be president . I think thats her task. You know, i do not expect her to go after Bernie Sanders in particular, because at the end of the day she needs those supporters to be willing to support her. I think well hear her talk about Hillary Clinton. What does she do if sanders or one of the others says, look, ive been against this kind of trail deal for years, youve been against it for three days . Shes going to say i hundreded to the arguments, you were very persuasive, thank you, you were very persuasive. I want to talk about a new movie out next friday. Its called proof about a cbs news report just before the election in 2004 which claimed that president push had gone awol from his National Guard unit. Here is a clip from the movie. Our story was about whether the president fulfilled his service. Nobody wants to talk about that. They want to talk about fonts and forgeries and they hope to god the truth gets lot in the scrum. Karl, the movie portraying dan rather and the woman who was his producer, mary mapes, almost as if they were woodward and bernstein during watergate. This was an ugly episode in american journalism. We had a producer who had an agenda. Mary mapes. And she worked with her principal, dan rather, to produce a smear on president bush. This movies named truth, it all to be the anatomy of a smear. Falsified document from a source who changed his story, the documents were not verified by cbs own experts. It is a devastating example of journalism run amok. I would recommend before you go to the movie, going the cbs, their independent review panel on this incident and read the 30page summary of this report. It is devastating about the lack of journalistic integrity. Briefly explain the main source of the story. The main source is a leftwing former National Guard officer named big burk et, who game mary mapes documents that he claimed came from somebody else. What was the significant of the documents . The documents said that george w. Bush had gone awol, that he refused an example and had not shown of for duty. It turned out the documents were typed in a font that were not available on a typewriter in the 1960s when they were supposedly done and were forgeries. They had the wrong abbreviations, they were set up wrong, they had signatures in the wrong place, and the supposed author of these supposedly timed them himself when his widow said he never typed. Didnt burket have some kind of grievance against president bush . Oh, sure. He had both grievances about his treatment at the National Guard that occurred before bush was president and before bush was governor, and he was also a left winger who had a bias against bush and trying to ingratiate himself with the kerry campaign. It was a tissue of lies from start to finish. The 30page summary is definite at a timing. Cbs issued a statement about the movie. Its worth reading. Wait, wait. Im going to read the statement you may be wondering but this is a big movie. It comes out on friday. At the time, dan rather who first apologized on the air, left cbs, and then sued cbs and said cbs corporate interests had forced them to go against the movie and again him. He sued, the case was thrown out sum matterly. Cbs now says this about its own report and its own reporters and the movie the film tries to turn gross errors of journalism and judgments into acts of heroism and martyrdom. How could Robert Redford and Cate Blanchett and the movie makers think theyre going to get away with it. I think theyre glorifying, creating heroes at a time when american truth in journalism is abysmally low. People just dont trust journalism right now. Part of it is i think journalism is done for corporate ratings, or appeal to bias or one slant or another, and they dont trust journalists in the way we used to, in the way people trusted your dad. We get in a situation that krrl and i dont agree on much, but the facts are that dan rather had to apologize and his career was ended. But people would argue, karl, that the corporation is protecting its interests. They were fearful that viacom had interests on the table. Thats where i think it gets crazy. Baloney. Baloney. Okay i will tell i my father ended up confronten dan rather at one point about this, because the executive producer of cbs too had been fired, so had mary mapes, my father said, if your team gets fired, you should quit, too. Well, that is the judgment. You left out the best quote. Its astounding how little truth there is in truth says cbs. There are too many distortion and baseless conspiracy theories too enumerate them all. Maybe should be named revisionism. Up next our power player of the week. Creating a Global Community center once conversation at a time. Make transit systems run more smoothly. And morning chitchat. Less interesting. Transportation can work better. With xerox. Thank you for calling. Well be with you shortly. Yeah right. Xerox Predictive Analytics help companies provide a better and faster customer experience. Hello mr. Kent. Can i rebook your flight . Im here Customer Care can work better. With xerox. Wait im here mr. Kent . S. We live in an interconnected world, but what about having an actual facetoface conversation with someone youve never met who is thousands of miles away . Here is our power player of the week. Just today my daughter was born. Two men sharing the most basic exchanges, competent marot was in washington and amir was in iran. They were talking from two shipping containers, connected by cameras and computer. This is the portals project, the brainchild of artist journalist amar bakshi. Conversations with strangers can be liberating and more moving, because theyre not going to tell your mom what you say, so youre able to say things you couldnt anywhere else. Bakshi launched the idea in september of 2014, with one goldpainted container in new york city and one in iran. In a world of social media, he wanted to create a Global Community center. By having so many vehicles to connect, we lose the desire to context. This tries to make a moment. That is the aesthetic piece. Do you think it would lead to world peace or its an entertaining 20 minutes . Neither. I hope its a unique moment to the live participants, something where they feel, i wish i had more. They now have 11 portals from San Francisco to cuba to afghanistan. People sign up to spend 20 minutes with a stranger on the other side of the world, and so far 3500 people have connected. [ laughter ] what kind of music are you into . I like my favorites are pop but now i was eager to enter the portal. All i knew is i would be speaking to someone in mexico city. Hola, whats your name . My name is chris. What is yours . My name is note. We used one of the conversation starters. What makes a good day for you . Its raining lately, so maybe just some sun today, no matter. Im married, i have kids and grandkids. If everybody in the family is happy, im happy. Bakshi says two artists are collaborating on music. Two tech entrepreneurs are working on mobile app. That is there been a portal romance . No, not yet. One tess United Nations and another at a syrian refugee camp. We just came back from having our 14th anniversary dinner. Happy anniversary. The idea resonates so broughtly where in afghanistan or in mexico, people basically get what were trying to do and want to get behind it. What is satisfies is me seeing that community grow. The gold is we shouldnt be able to stop this if we tried. Hits idea is to have portals article the world with one for every 1 Million People in the world. With president owama and kanye west. Both appears together. When did it and where they are now. Mornings on 2 starts right now. In is ktvu mornings on 2. Weekend. Good morning, everyone. A live look out there. Of the sun rises and sunsets