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The Defense Intelligence agency Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. Then, as the republican president ial field starts getting crowded, how will candidates stand out. Well talk with the only woman and only former ceo among the gop hopeful. Carly fiorina. Plus, harry reid is getting out while ted cruz gets in. I am announcing that im running for president of the united states. Our sunday Group Discusses a busy week in politics. And our power player of the week. Ted kennedys widow, vicki on bringing her husbands love of the senate to the next generation. Welcome to the senate in boston. All right now on fox news sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. We begin with breaking news on the investigation into that Germanwings Flight that crashed in the alps this week. There are new revelations about the copilot, who Officials Say deliberately flew the plane into a mountain side. Amy kellogg joins us now from the crash site with the latest. Amy . Reporter chris, the most dramatic quotes from people who knew copilot andreas lubitz, claims she was a former lover and Flight Attendant, she said that lubitz once told her that one day he would do something heinous that the whole world remember him for. He used to wake in the night screaming were going down, were going down. Now sunday published snippets in which the captain is shouting for god sake open the door. The daily reports today details about lubitz last girl the teacher he was hoping to marry. She broke it off to his recently controlling and jackal and hyde like behavier. In another twist, build reports she is pregnant. Dusseldorf investors said they found a lot of psychiatric medication in his apartment and personal notes indicates he was profoundedly defreszed. There are reports he had a serious vision problem. All of this might support that something Flight Attendant said about him that he may have crashed the plane because he feared he would never become his dream of a long haul flight cap feign. He may have feared losing his pilot license. A senior french investigator said yesterday that while no one is disputing the version of events out there and while lubitzs personality is relevant here, its important that other scenarios remain open including the possibility there may have been some sort of mechanical issue, chris. Amy kellogg reporting from the french alps. Amy, thanks for that. Now, lets turn to the middle east which is spiraling into a regional conflict where the u. S. Finds itself on both sides of the divide. And the growing chaos raises questions about president obamas strategy and Nuclear Talks with iran. Fox News National security correspondent Jennifer Griffin explains where things stand now. Announcer chris, the growing concern at the pentagon is that while the u. S. Military is fighting isis on behalf of iraq, irans influence is spreading, forming in essence a shiite crescent across the middle east. Irans influence has grown since u. S. Forces pulled out at the end of 2011. Three weeks ago, iraq and iran launched an operation to retake saddam husseins hometown tikrit from isis. The move surprised u. S. Commanders. This week, after the iranianled operations stalled, u. S. War planes launched air strikes over tikrit at the request of the iraq government. Before doing so, the pentagon demanded the iranianbacked forces pull back. Some accused the u. S. Of serving as irans air force. Meanwhile, in yemen another iranianbacked shiite proxy overthrew the government. The sunni government of saudi arabia began air strikes. The pentagon was again caught off guard. When were you told by the saudis that they were going to take military action in yemen . Sir i had a conversation right before they took action so it was shortly before. Announcer meanwhile, john kerry facing a deadline tuesday is trying to hammer out the details of a Framework Agreement to curtail Irans Nuclear program. Negotiation that sunni governments oppose. Chris . Jennifer griffin, reporting from the pentagon. Jennifer, thank you. For more lets bring in Lieutenant General Michael Flynn who retired as director of the Defense Intelligence agency last summer after holding almost every top military intel post. General flynn, welcome back to fox news sunday. Thanks chris. President obamas policy in the middle east as we just heard, is complicated. But i want to lay out three main points. Lets put them up on the screen. Were fighting against iranianbacked rebels in yemen. Meanwhile, were trying to negotiate a nuclear deal with iran but the fox brain room our Research Department did this remarkable chart. Take a look at this. To show what our dealings with iran and saudi arabia right now really look like. For a closer look because it bares study go to our facebook page. But general flynn, can you explain what the president s grand strategy is for the middle east . Yeah. So, chris, let me just start by sort of stating two big points. One where we are and then what do we do about it. I think where we are right now, we have almost a complete breakdown of order in the middle east, new middle east is essentially struggling to be born. The second thing is, we have iran on the march. Iran is clearly on the march. As Jennifer Griffins commented highlights, both in iraq also syria lebanon yemen and other parts of the middle east. We have a takeover of islam by radical extremists. This is very dangerous and both shiite and sunni. We cant forget that. We also have, what i would call, a real pushback by the sunni governments and their lack of trust and lack of respect for the united states. And i think that at the end of the day, we have just this incredible policy confusion, never mind what our strategy is to execute that policy. But let me ask you about that because it seems to be a patch work of alliances where in some countries were on the side of saudi arabia and the sunnis. In other countries like iraq, were on the side of shiite and iran. Can that work . Yeah. So let me just start by saying as an intelligence officer, intelligence has to be part of the calculus of every strategic level of decision. And right now, i dont my sense of where the policy is at is sort of i hate to say it like this, but its almost a policy of willful ignorance. And to me, we have some major problems that we are dealing with and here we are talking to iran about a nuclear deal with this almost complete breakdown of order in the middle east. One of the things that we have to keep in mind on iran is iran is also a country with Ballistic Missiles. They are a statesponsor of terrorism. And here we are dealing with them as though were going to give them a Carte Blanche i know it will be some number of years to have a nuclear capability. Give me a break. Well, lets talk about iran because the main point is clearly that iran is on the march. Lets put up this map because they have growing power in iraq in syria, in lebanon and in yemen. And this week, saudi arabia and egypt finally decided that they were going to push back against iran and here is what the saudi ambassador to the u. S. Told me about iran. They want to dominate the region. Their officials have made no bones about publically saying how proud they are to control four arab capitals. We will not tolerate any aggression against the kingdom of saudi arabia or our allies. We will not tolerate any aggression. Question how close are we to a sectarian regional war in the middle east . Yeah were not close. Were there. This is whats going on. We have to face reality and not try to assume that we are going to be able to Say Something and hope that thats going to be that our policy will be carried out because we Say Something. We have to face the reality that were in right now. That reality is there is a sectarian war. We have to acknowledge chris that both iran and these radical islamists, these extremists, we have to acknowledge that they do not like our way of life. In fact, they have stated that they want to see the destruction of our way of life. And i think that our leadership has to be really clear with the American Public not to scare the American Public but to inform them, to tell them exactly what it is that we are facing. I mean that line and block chart you showed thats if it was confusing to your audience, its probably confusing to many in the government. And thats also part of the entire sort of policy and strategy that we are following. It is a state of confusion. And like i said, i cant say it any stronger, i almost feel like our policy is a policy of willful ignorance rather than facing the reality that we actually have right now. You talk you mentioned before, iran has Ballistic Missiles. Pakistan could conceivably come in on the sunni side. Where would iran use Ballistic Missiles and how dangerous could this potentially get, this sectarian warfare . The escalation of the challenges that we are looking at, first of all, its not going to were not all going to suddenly wake up and peace will be breaking out in the middle east. We are going to face increasing complexity in the middle east and the escalation of this conflict this sectarian civil war thats on going between iran and the various sunni countries is going to be going on for some time. So the escalation of that and the application of other capabilities with the potential of Ballistic Missiles certainly cyber is already going on. Other terrorist acts on both sides and from our interests we have to make sure that we take care of those things those allies, those partners that we have. To me, its a really important issue. All right. You referenced the fact that we are just a couple days away from the deadline, tuesday night midnight, for a framework nuclear deal between the u. S. And our allies on the one side and iran on the other. I guess i got a couple of questions. First of all, does it make any sense to be negotiating this deal now given irans march across the middle east . Secondly, from what you hear about whats being negotiated on Irans Nuclear infrastructure and the pace of lifting sanctions, is it a good deal or not . Yeah. That saudi ambassador that was on just a little while ago only a couple years ago would have been blown up in a restaurant here in washington, d. C. And other americans that have gone to that restaurant that night would have been killed had some good luck and some good Law Enforcement work not been accomplished. So, that was all sponsored by iran. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism, according to our state department. The guy that you showed the head of the cuds force he is one of the leading individuals who is still designated as a what do you think about negotiating this deal . We should stop right now and take a deep breath, step back and look at everything thats going on instead of its although were in this nuclear deal and we see some light at the end of the tunnel thats going to walk us into a new level of anywhere vanna. I dont know how else to call it. In fact that light is not a light thats going to expose us to some new world. Thats a train thats heading in our direction. I will tell you that we have to make sure that we step back and understand the full breadth scale and scope of whats happening in the middle east before we cut a deal with iran. I think its dangerous. Pardon . I think its very dangerous. The key, of course, if there is a deal, is would we be able to verify it . Would we be able to know that iran is doing that theyre complying with the agreement. Last sunday i spoke with the c. I. A. Director john brennan who expressed great confidence that between what our own intel and what the verification procedures will be that we will know. Here is what he said. I think weve gone to school on some of those developments over the last decade or so so that we can now have a better plan and opportunity to verify some of the things that they are saying that theyre going to do and not do. Is brenen right . Do you share his confidence that we would know what iran is doing on its nuclear program, forget the regional side of it . And what are the chances that iran could or might be able to build a secret Nuclear Facility we would know nothing about . Yeah. Here is again, you showed a clip of general austin not knowing what one of our closest allies in the region are doing. Thats the saudis going in to do air strikes in yemen. So what makes us think that we are going to have, you know, as much information as were going to need to be able to verify this whether or not the iranians are developing a Nuclear Weapon or not. We have not had a lot of luck in that in the last 30 years if not in the last couple of years. So i dont trust iran. And i have seen a lot what i know chris, about what ive seen over certainly the last ten years if not the last 30, they are not a nation to be trusted. Final question, we have about less than a minute left. If you are still head of the Defense Intelligence agency as you were until last summer, and you were advising the president right now, briefly, what would you say to him about this nuclear deal and what would you say to him about the policy we have now where were on one side in one country and the other side in the other country . I would say stop all engines on this nuclear deal. Take a step back. Really take a deep dive look at everything going on in the middle east. Its not just the middle east. Its all of north africa. Its parts of west africa. Its central asian. Chris, this is a growing threat. It has clear consequences on our national security. If its not exis ten shall, we should not wait for that. In my belief, my experience my judgment we have to stop what were doing and take a hard look at everything going on in the middle east right now because its not going in the right direction. General flynn, thank you. Thanks for coming in today and helping explain whats going on in the region and whats at stake. Its not a pretty picture. Thank you sir. Please come back. Sure. Up next, growing chaos in the middle east and u. S. Policy under fire. Our sunday group joins the conversation. Plus what would you like to ask the panel about president obamas strategy for the region . Just go to facebook or twitter foxnewssunday and we may use your question on the air. You cant predict the market. But at t. Rowe price weve helped guide our clients through good times and bad. Our experienced investment professionals are one reason over 85 of our mutual funds beat their 10year lipper averages. So in a variety of markets we can help you feel confident. Request a prospectus or summary prospectus with Investment Information risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. Call us or your advisor. T. Rowe price. Invest with confidence. Been on the offensive and have been acting aggressively towards the arab countries. This is something that we cannot tolerate. Saudi ambassador to the u. S. Explaining why a coalition of sunni nations moved this week to oppose iranianbacked rebels in yemen. Its time now for our sunday group. Indicated column nis, george will. Carol lee who covers the white house for the wall street journal. Matt kibbe head of Freedom Works and evan bayh. How do they view the decision by the Saudiled Coalition to take on iranian proxies in yemen and how do they explain the fact, as i was trying to get discuss with general flynn that were on one side against the iranians in yemen but were on the other side kind of alongside the iranians in iraq, how do they explain that, carol . Well, their argument is that their goal is to try to side with whoever they need to essentially to get rid of the worst of the worst actors. So what youve seen is all the traditional alliances that the u. S. Has had in the middle east have sort of broken down and none of them apply in this current situation. And you have a dynamic where the president s strategy of not engaging so much in the middle east and withdrawing a little bit and pursuing this Nuclear Agreement with iran had taken priority. And now thats complicating his agenda across the region. And the strategy is now to partner where they need to partner and keep their eye on the ball, which is the big prize for them is this iran deal. And the result is that its the middle east is in a state of increasing chaos and the question is whether this is a strategy thats going to be sustainable going forward. You already see it challenging the president in iraq and his in afghanistan, as you saw this week, where he slowed the drawdown for troops there. George, you and i talked earlier this week on special report and you said you thought it was a Good Development that the arabs, in this case is sunni arabs, saudi arabia and the coalition are standing up and fighting their own fight instead of depending on us. But when you see whats going on hear what general flynn says, is there no danger from a regional conflict across the middle east . Theres no aspect of this that isnt dangerous. What general flynn said region wide sectarian war is not hypothetical, its actual. Remember the breakup of ewe ga slaf ya that was bad enough when you had nations being born croatia croatia, all the rest. This is nationality being eclipsed by sectarian. Its much more vileolatile and dangerous. Theres two sides. When modernity came, premodern forces, religion and ethnicity would lose their historyshaping power. Thats all we read about now days are these premodern forces dominating the modern age. Second i think if you look at this, region wide chaos, you realize how fenceable is the theory we left 10, 20000 forces in iraq none of this would be happening. This is beyond our power to control with the few Forward Deployed troops. And then, adding to all of this of course, the ongoing and intensifying u. S. And allied talks with iran about its nuclear program. We asked you for questions for the panel and we got this on facebook from joy floik. She writes why is anyone taking this socalled Iranian Nuclear deal in quotes seriously when by kerrys own admission its unenforceable and not legally binding. I have to sign a more binding negotiation with the vet to have my dogs teeth cleans. How do you answer joy flick . Well, i think joys skepticism is warranted chris. The negotiation are heading toward what will probably be a very general pronouncement this coming week, but the real deadline is june the 30th and the devil will be in the details there. Do we get a real inspection regime that allows us to go anywhere, any time, including on military bases to see what the iranians are up to . Thats number one. Number two no immediate sanctions relief. Is it put off until some point in the future where they have shown that they are behaving by an agreement, not just saying they are going to behave according to an agreement. All your guesses are correct, iranians cant be trusted. So its got to be an agreement with specificity and teeth. Were probably not going to know that until june 30th. The final thing i would say, the iranians admitted to a weaponization program that existed until 2003. Theyre not willing to come clean about that. If theyre not willing to come clean about that, we probably cant trust them with anything else. Joys skepticism is warranted. Well see what kind of agreement we come up with. What about the argument youve just said that we asked and have been asking for years for them to tell us since 2009 what they have before. Theyre refusing to tell us that. We know theyre a bad actor across the middle east. What about general flynn who is basically saying, stop. Dont continue down this road with the iranians . Well, real skepticism is warranted, chris. No, but hes saying more than real skepticism. He is saying break it off. If we cant get an agreement that has real teeth in it, we shouldnt have an agreement. The problem is, the alternative isnt exactly a walk in the park either. Really at the end of the day its probably the use of force, which is a yuf nichl for going to war against iran. There are real consequences to that which would adverse to the united states. When it comes down to it, the two questions are are we willing to accept a Iranian Nuclear iran. If the answer so to that is really no, which it should be are we prepared to deal with that now or are we going to put it off and force our children to deal with it at some point thats more favorable to iran . So the bottom line is if its a bad deal, the general is right, no deal. And we consider our options. Matt . I think the problem with this administration and the problem with president ial leadership, its all about credibility and restraint. And this administration looks a little bit desperate. And they want to deal no matter what. Thats not a good negotiationing position. I think conversely, the iranian economy is in the tank because of economic sanctions, because of falling oil prices, because of some of their military adventurism across the region. I think we should be negotiationing from a position of strength, but were not now. Let me ask you, we have about a minute left. Carol i talked with the Top White House official about ten days ago who said that he bet there wont be a deal. What are you hearing about the possibility or the likelihood that there just wont be a deal, this is all going to fall apart . What theyre saying now is theyre closer than they ever have been and the likelihood is they will get a deal in the coming days. I think thats where their view is now. The question is how the president handles congress on this . And i think theres a growing acknowledge inside the white house that congress is going to vote on something one way or another and so the question once and if they get a deal is whether the white house tries to shape some sort of legislation that they can think they can live with in the intervening months between the end of march and june 30th. And june when they get the final deal. All right. We have to take a break and well see you all later. Up next, former Hewlett Packard ceo Carly Fiorina goes after Hillary Clinton as he considers a run for the president ial nomination. What do you think of fiorina and the potential gop field for 2016. Let me know on facebook or twitter foxnews sunday and use the fns. Monitor it. And automatically rebalance it. All without charging advisory fees, account service fees or commissions. That may be hard to compute. But im a computer. So trust me. It computes. Say hello at intelligent. Schwab. Com amid a crowded 2016 republican field the challenge now becomes finding a way to stand out. If she runs, former Hewlett Packard chief Carly Fiorina would have no trouble doing that as the only woman in the gop field. In recent weeks she has also become a leading critic of democratic frontrunner, Hillary Clinton. Ms. Fiorina, welcome back to fox news sunday. Great to be with you. Happy palm sunday. Thank you. What are the chances that youre going to run for president . Very high. Youre a former businesswoman. Give me a number. Higher than 90 . Really . Yes, sir. So what would prevent you . Why arent you willing to announce right here today im a candidate for president . Well, because, you know, we need as other potential candidates are doing, we need to make sure we have the right team in place that we have the right support that we have the right Financial Resources lined up just as all the other potential candidates. When would you announce . Probably late april, early may. If you run, and it would be in a field of current and former governors several current senators, why should Republican Voters pick you . Because i have a deep understanding of how the economy actually works, having started as a secretary and bm the chief executive of the Largest Technology company in the world because i understand how the world works and know many of the World Leaders on the stage today because i understand technology, transformational tool and understand bureaucracies how they work and how you need to change them and our government is a huge bureaucracy and because i understand executive Decision Making which is making tough calls in tough times with high stakes for which youre prepared to be held accountable. Okay. Lets talk specifically about your experience as a business executive. Beyond the typical republican talking points not to say that theyre wrong, but what are your ideas that are different about the economy and about dealing with our National Debt . Well, i think we have two fundamental structural problems in our economy. One, is that we have tangled people up in a web of dependence from which they cant escape. Were leaving lots of talent on the field. Secondly, were crushing Small Businesses now. Elizabeth warren is right crony capitalism is alive and well. Big business and Big Government go hand in hand. For the first time in u. S. History now we are destroying more businesses than we are creating. And so while we have ten banks, too big to fail have become five big banks too big to fail, 3,000 Community Banks have gone out of business and thats where familyowned and Small Businesses get their chance. Thats important because Small Businesses create two thirds of the new jobs and employ after the people half of the people. We have to get small and familyowned businesses going and growing again. Washington, d. C. Has become a vast unaccountable bureaucracy. Its been growing for 40 years. We have no idea how our money is spent. There are two things that would help tremendously. One, zero base budgeting so we know where the money is spent. Were talking about the whole budget and not just balance. Two, pay for performance. You can watch porn all day and get paid exactly the same way as somebody who is trying to do their job. Ms. Fiorina, and you know this is coming, your record at head of Hewlett Packard and you were the ceo of five and a half years and you were the first woman to lead a fortune 100 company is going to be controversial. Lets put up some of the things on the screen. During your five and a half years, you laid off the company laid off more than 30000 american workers, many of those jobs went to india and china and Hewlett Packard stock fell 49 and the board of directors fired you. Isnt that a record that youre going to get hammered with . Well im very proud of our record. We took Hewlett Packard from about 44 billion to 88 billion in 6 years. We took the growth rate from 2 to 9 . We tripled the rate of innovation to 11 patents a day. We quadrupled cash flow. We went from a market lagged to a Market Leader in every product category and every market segment. And we grew jobs. It is true that i managed through the Worst Technology recession in 25 years. You will remember the nasdaq has only now recovered to its dot com boom highs after 15 years. Every tech stock was down over that 15 period. In technology recession we had to lay people off many of those people were in europe and elsewhere and the truth is we outsourced more California Jobs to texas than we did to india or china demonstrating we have to compete for every job. But you know whats going to happen. If you were the nominee, exactly what happened to mitt romney. There were 30000 american jobs that were logsst and they can get two or three or 200 people to cogo and say, Carly Fiorina got a 20 million severance package i lost my job. Well first, i think youre reading the democratic talking points because it was not all american jobs. But of course laying people off is the last resort. Its a terrible thing to have to do. But when you are managing through the Worst Technology recession in 25 years sometimes there are tough calls that need to be made for the Overall Health of the enterprise. And in the end, we took a company that was really struggling and turned it into an exceedingly Successful Company where overall jobs grew. You seem to take special delight in going after Hillary Clinton. Here is one of your greatest hits. Unlike mrs. Clinton, i know that flying is an activity, not an accomplishment. I have met vladimir putin, and i know that his ambition will not be deterred by a gimmicky red reset button. Mrs. Clinton please name an accomplishment. Thats pretty good stuff. What is your basic case against Hillary Clinton . Hillary clinton lacks a track record of accomplishment. She is not candid, which suggests her character is flawed. And i think now in email gate, we have a situation where she is clearly not being candid. Her saying all those emails she erased were just her and bill chatting is a little bit like Richard Nixon saying those erased moments on the tape were he and pat talking. Thats ridiculous. Theres more than that. I think theres a competence issue. Anyone in 2015 to say you cant have two email accounts on a single device obviously doesnt understand technology. When she talks about we had secret Service Agents guarding our server for heaven sakes were not concerned about the server being stolen. Were concerned about the server being hacked. All right. Let me pick up on that because clintons lawyers, the latest development is late friday they told the house benghazi committee, theres no point going after the server because we have wiped clean all of the emails and so all of those 30,000 private emails socalled private emails are gone. One, what do you make of it . Two, what do you do now . It was part of the plan all along that the clintons had. Look, i think it was very deliberate they had a private serve server. It was deliberate she used a personal email account. It was a deliberate effort to shield her communications. I dont quite know what the investigators can do at this point, but i know this we need a nominee who will bring this up in the general election. The reason benghazi was not enough of an issue in the 2012 election is because unfortunately our nominee pulled his punches when he had an opportunity to remind the American People of the benghazi tragedy and scandal. So you wont pull your punches . Not now and not in a general election. Some people have suggested, even as i ask it it sounds sexist, youre really running to be the running mate, that you would the person to lead the attack against Hillary Clinton. It would be easier for you as a woman attacking another woman and neutralize the vulnerability vulnerabilities the Republican Party has with women . I come from a world where track record and accomplishments count, words dont. If i run for president its because i can win the job and its because i can do the job. Would you even consider being the running mate . Well when you start asking all the other candidates that question, then maybe well have that conversation. Fair enough. Carly fiorina, thank you for coming in. Always good to talk with you. And we will be following your big decision. Thank you so much chris, for having me. Come back and let us know. All right. When we come back, the week in politics. Ted cruz gets in while harry reid steps out. Our panel will chew over that and more. That nearly half a million cars were stolen in 2012 . But for every car stolen 34 people had their identities stolen. Identity thieves can steal your money damage your credit and wreak havoc on your life. But you can help protect yourself with lifelock a leader in Identity Theft protection. 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Senate minority leader harry reid announcing his decision not to seek reelection in 2016. And were back now with the panel. Matt, what is harry reids legacy as a Senate Leader . Well, the democrats are definitely celebrating by his any means necessary approach to passing president obamas agenda. But i think ultimately the legacy of harry reid is going to be viewed of as very destructive. He has torn apart the traditions of the senate that cooling off process, the respect for the individual senators and nothing shows that more than the way he went after the filibuster. And what happens, i wonder, when ted cruz is majority leader. We should point out, it used to be for nominations, executive nominations, cabinet members you needed 60 votes and he reduced it to majority 51 votes. He did. Its a hard to put the jeannie back into the bottle. The ability of republicans to get amendments, to have their voice heard in this process, thats bad for both republicans and democrats. Its bad for the tradition of the senate and the intentions that the founders had for it. I want to pick up with that on you. You served with harry reid for years. Its generally agreed that he did president obamas bidding or certainly worked alongside him bottling up House Republican legislation so it never went to a vote, let alone forcing the president to veto it. But you do hear criticism, not just from matt but from some of the from some agreed Senate Colleagues who say he weakened the institution, he prevented amendments, he prevented legislationing and that he made it harder for the senator to do its business. Do you think theres some truth to that . Chris i served under four leaders, two republicans and two democrats. Over the 12 years i was in the senate, i saw more and more of that under both parties. I think its really a reflection of the times in which we live and which the basis of both parties is very estranged from one another. So to combat that concentration of power in the hands of leader on both sides. Senator mcconnell now, maybe not quite as much as senator reid suffered those same frustrations. How do you get things done . Theres a real premium upon its almost a parliamentary system. Everybody has to vote down the party line. You have big senators who were independent and make a difference. So i view senator reids leadership as really being a reflection of our times. His style may have contributed some but really all the leaders had to deal with the same phenomenon he did. While reid is leaving republican senator ted cruz became the First Official candidate in the 2016 republican race. Here he is. I think there is an urgency to what were facing in politics thats unlike anything you or i have ever seen before. I think its now or never. I dont think weve reached the point of no return yet, but we are close. George where do you think cruz fits in the republican president ial field . And what do you think are his realistic chances to win the nomination . Weve seen this movie before, chris. In 1964 republicans nominated Barry Goldwater partly on the theory called conservatives in the woodwork. There were enormous number of conserves who only offered candidate who ignored what cruz calls the mushy middle. Goldwaters 27 million voters, of whom i was one, suffice to carry six states. The question for mr. Cruz for anyone seeking the republican nomination is this given that 18 states and the District Of Columbia with 242 electoral votes voted democrat in six consecutive elections and if the democratic nominee holds that base, he or she will spend the fall looking for 28 electoral votes and will find them. Given that, they have to answer the question, what blue state are you going to flip specifically . Can Ted Cruz Campaign effectively in one of those 18 states, pennsylvania. How is he going to do piling up big majorities to carry the state in the suburban counties arnold philadelphia . Let me bring in matt kibbe who loves ted cruz. Where is george getting it wrong . My community loves ted cruz. Were looking at senators ran paul. We like governor walker. The question is the right one but understand that Politics Today is more all you have to do is look at ted cruzs fund raising numbers in his first week. He raised over 2 million in just a few days. And that mechanism, using the internet and social media, is an opportunity for more unconventional candidates to be more competitive. What about his argument that youve got this huge Democratic Electoral advantage. Back in the 80s, the republicans had the electoral nap on their side. You have a candidate who is basically talking about getting more conservatives, not reaching out to the moderates and the interdepents. Thats the test, all of these candidates that i just mentioned, how ted cruz performs in purple and blue states is somethingly watch. We want to win like everybody else. This is something well see. Carol, im going to bring up another Interesting Development what i just talked to Carly Fiorina about and that was the announcement from Hillary Clintons lawyer, who thought that we were going to get back to clinton lawyers, on friday that they have wiped the server clean. Theres no point in even going after it. All of those emails, the government ones and the socalled private ones are gone. Where does that leaf this controversy . This probably isnt the last time youll hear the clinton lawyer phrase. She runs for the presidency. I think this is continues to be a problem for her just because it feeds theres a number of story lines that are feeding this narrative that the clintons dont play by the same rules as everybody else. That there are trust issues there. And you know, this issue now is theres nowhere that this can go except if te mails are no longer there, then she it now comes down to a battle of whose word do you take and can she convince voters that she did what she was going to do and did the right thing . George does this go nowhere . In a sense, some would argue with a view of history, she burned the tapes. Yes, she did. A week ago the question is she hiding something . Now the question is and will go on forever what did she hide . Matt go ahead. Chris, im a frugal man. I will bet everyone here a steak dinner this will not be an issue in the upcoming election. The reason for that is that if you dont like Hillary Clinton, this is just more proof of there she goes again. If you like Hillary Clinton, its more proof that shes getting untreated fairly. For those swing voters theyre asking themselves, what does this have to do with me, jobs wages, health care, education, there in lies the difficulties of the republican candidates. Theyre not making this election about what it should be about, the welfare of the American People. What does this have to do with the average person . I think the myth of Hillary Clintons inevitability of the nominee, this is one more chink in that story. But im going to boldly predict that the American People on both the democratic and republican sides are putting a premium on authenticity and not really interested in a coronation of another clinton and another bush. And i guess thats the question, does it speak to her character, her openness her transparency, and does that matter . Well, shes called for all of the emails that shes turned over to the state department to be released. Those that were put the ones she didnt destroy. Well, correct. But the ones that she destroyed were her personal emails which mitt romney and jeb bush and others said did away when they left the governorship of their states. This is not uncommon. To be continued. Thank you panel. See you next sunday. Up next, our power player of the week. Vicki kennedy on her husbands vision to inspire new generations about the u. S. Senate. Victoria kennedy. Whatever you thought of him, ted kennedy loved the senate. Serving there for almost half a century. Now it will play just as big a role in his legacy as it did in his life. Here is our power player of the week. He loved public service. He believed in making a difference and he wanted to inspire new generations to feel the same way. Vicki kennedy is talking about the edward m. Kennedy institute for the u. S. Senate. A labor of love she just completed for her late husband. Students and tourists using hand held devices will learn about Senate History and procedures, all leading up to the main attraction. Welcome to the senate in boston. I mean ive been on the senate floor. Theres no difference. Isnt it exciting . Teddy wanted people to feel that sense of awe. I mean, i feel it every single time i walk in here. It is the worlds only full scale replica of the senate chamber. Mrs. Kennedy took us to a copy of her husbands desk for his 46 years in the senate. I think he loved being in the back row because he could see everything that was going on. So this was his desk. His brother, senator john f. Kennedy, sat at this desk and carved his name in it, just as teddy carved his name in it. So that must have meant the world to him. It meant everything to him. Absolutely. But this isnt a museum piece. Socalled senators in training will learn about the issue of the day, debate it and try to persuade a majority to pass a bill. They caucus. Theyre passing amendments. Theres even a little mini filibuster possibility for three minutes. What if the senate votes to conservative way. Then it does. Thats really exciting. So the fix isnt in for the liberal side here . The fix is definitely not in. The whole notion is to have no bias one way or another and really have a free and open debate. Well, you had the most liberal voting record in the senate in 2005 and youre still called i dont know if thats a compliment or not, the liberal lion of the senate. Well, my view is that programs change but our values dont change. The institute is nonpartisan. Your husband was proudly, fiercely partisan. He was the proudest democrat that there was but the great thing about teddy was that he always listened to the other side and worked so well with the other side. The hope is visitors will leave the institute inspired to give back to their communities and to demand washington do its job better. I talked with mrs. Kennedy in a recreation of his senator office, complete with some of the original momentos that meant the most to him, such as this letter from his mother rose. She says, she watched him on a particular interview and said, teddy, please say if i were president not if i was president because its a condition contrary to fact. Which is why the institute is not just about politics its personal. It was very important to him that this project be finished. And he said that to me. He said, youre going to finish this, arent you . And i said you know i will. At the end he said that . Yeah. Yeah. And you did . And i did. With a lot of help. For a moment surrounded by family photos and the balls her husband used to throw to his dogs it was all too much. I see all this memorabilia and i feel thats a tough one, you know. Thats a little thats a tough one. But in the end, the Kennedy Institute is not about the past but our future. At a time when washington has never seemed more broken. Madame president i think it says, we dont need to be discouraged. Weve done it before. You look throughout history, men and women of goodwill have come together and addressed the great challenges facing our nation and we can do it again. President obama will speak at the dedication of the Kennedy Institute tomorrow. 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