Have been occupied by radical protesters who are not students with the global spotlight trained again on Hong Kong Chinese President Xi Jinping has had the priority is to restore order Julie McCarthy n.p.r. News Hong Kong this is n.p.r. . Representatives of more than 24 n.f.l. Teams reportedly plan to attend today's private workout for controversial former n.f.l. Quarterback Collin capper Nick the league announced the surprise addition earlier this week capital glass played in the 2016 season when he started kneeling during the national anthem to protest police brutality and social inequality and P.R.'s Tom Goldman has more the private workout meaning no media allowed will take place at the Atlanta Falcons training facility former n.f.l. Head coach Hugh Jackson will lead cavern it through drills the league will send video of the workout and an interview with capper Nick to all $32.00 teams critics of labeled today's event a publicity stunt but sources told e.s.p.n. Teams have contacted the league office about cavern extatic us and the n.f.l. Decided to hold the session so all interested teams could gather at the same time to assess capper next readiness in 2017 he filed a grievance alleging teams were colluding to ban him from the n.f.l. Because of his political activism the grievance was settled and reportedly today's session was not part of the settlement Tom Goldman n.p.r. News voting is underway in Louisiana where Governor John Bell Edwards is battling to defy partisan odds and win reelection to a seat that President Trump wants returned to Republicans the race has become a nail biter with no clear favorite the president has made the runoff election between the deep south only Democratic governor and g.o.p. Businessman Eddie respond to a test of his own popularity the president has made 3 campaign trips to Louisiana I'm Louise Schiavone n.p.r. News Washington. Support for n.p.r. Comes from n.p.r. 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News I'm Scott Simon the 1st of the public testimony in the impeachment inquiry this week Roger Stone president Trump's political advisor found guilty of all charges 7 federal felonies and last night some explosive reports about a statement made behind closed doors N.P.R.'s senior Washington editor and correspondent Ron Elving joins us Ron thanks for being with us good to be with you Scott and what do we hear about this latest name to join if I may this cast of characters David Holmes David Holmes is a foreign service officer on staff at the u.s. Embassy in Ukraine he testified for 6 hours Friday in a closed door session after those televised open hearings with Ambassador you bondage Holmes testified that he had direct knowledge of President Trump's attitude and intentions toward Ukraine because he had overheard a phone call back in July between Trump and Gordon Sandlin the ambassador to the European Union now these gentlemen were at a table together in a restaurant and the president was on the phone and apparently so loud that Stalin held the phone out a way from his head and it was possible for homes and others at the table to hear the conversation and he indicated that and by the way the opening statement that he gave behind closed doors Scott that was obtained 1st by c.n.n. But later confirmed as accurate for n.p.r. By Holmes as lawyer and it indicates Trump was not so concerned about defending Ukraine from Russian incursions that's what the military it was about but he was very concerned about getting Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Biden giving a boost to troops reelection campaign you thoughtfully left out some very purple language to run he was not excessively concerned actually the ambassador put that much more colorfully Yeah exactly earlier in the week 3 marquee witnesses testify the acting u.s. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor George can't a State Department official and Marie you have on. Bitch what the public here in learn the public saw and heard 3 exceptionally professional diplomats people who have spent their adult lives in service to their country in difficult posts and the public learned that one of them ambassador Yavanna bitch lost her job when she ran afoul of Rudy Giuliani and some of his cohorts the former New York City mayor who is now Trump's personal attorney was in Ukraine and spreading stories about her and the public learned the extent of President Trump's campaign to discredit the Bidens and to suggest that Ukraine and not Russia was responsible for interfering in the 2016 election and the president tweeted during a baster you have out of it is testimony let's hear how she reacted when asked about it in a what I'll call a marquee moment by House Intelligence chairman Adam Schiff and now the president real time is attacking you. Effect do you think that has on the other witnesses willingness to come forward. And expose wrongdoing. It's very intimidating Ron does it set a tone for the 8 witnesses were expected to hear from next week. It may it may be the trump strategy at this point to trash the witnesses in real time but it may also set a standard for response as modeled by the ambassador we saw yesterday and if it does it will be another case of the president defining the terms of debate via Twitter and thereby setting the rules for all the discourse and the debate that follows but it also shows people how to resist half a minute we have left Roger Stone convicted of lying to Congress witness tampering obstruction of justice would anyone be surprised if he was pardoned this weekend. Well it's this weekend might be a bit abrupt after all the president has not pardoned any of his other former associates who have been convicted of lying and lying for him by the Moeller team but judging by the lack of a vigorous defense in this case it would seem that someone was counting on a pardon n.p.r. Senior Washington editor and correspondent Ron Elving thanks so much thank you Scott. Another volatile week in Hong Kong one day mourning a student who died in circumstances that are uncertain another day exploding in the worst violence in 5 and a half months N.P.R.'s Julie McCarthy has spent the past week covering developments in Hong Kong and has this Reporter's Notebook protests begun in June with peaceful demands for more democracy by mid November have turned perilous reminds us why why are. The us stunned reporter narrates as a policeman shoots a masked activist Monday outraging Hong Kong the 21 year old lies in the hospital with serious injuries a 57 year old is in critical condition after he was set on fire for opposing the protests life hangs on a thread in Hong Kong No one knows what will happen when they venture out to protests now protesters have embraced violent tactics in response to brutal police practices the. Crowds this week taunted the black clad policeman outfitted with riot shields and tear gas 2 young women huddled in a doorway sneak a worried peek one of them who chose not to be named for fear of reprisal says the people are massing because day to day dangers seem to be growing I'm just feeling the police in Hong Kong is all of control they totally is not following the Hong Kong route and the basic law. Bullying Hong Kong people do you sense that things are getting worse I think so. Until people get the real democracy and real freedom this week riot police advanced on Chinese university reputed to be Hong Kong's most radical police accused to the students of throwing bricks and debris from a bridge to block a highway below the. It is believed to be the 1st time the police fired tear gas into a campus students silhouetted against fires igniting around them refused to retreat . And. They hurled Molotov cocktails and read arrows down on the police from their perch above once a haven a school grounds are now battlegrounds worried by the downward spiral administrators ended the semester early police chased suspected protesters into the basement of the Holy Cross Church this week beating them as they barge to pass coalition or c. . The. Parish said since the start of protests it has been a sanctuary and condemned the police for using what it called excessive force entering the church in Hong Kong customs and traditions are now casualties of the ongoing unrest student protesters talk openly about dying in this movement. Thousands of Hong Kong there is grieved last weekend in vigils for student Chelsea look he suffered fatal brain injuries from a fall in a car park near the scene of protests. Graduated a year ahead of Cho recalling Chiles youth and education so similar to his own begins to sob a bit. China is our hands and feet he said a reference to the intimate connection people inside the protest movement feel for one another many Hong Kong or is it minute to being overwhelmed by the magnitude of events and the uncertainty that hangs over Hong Kong pro-democracy protesters and the Hong Kong government backed by Beijing have intractable differences. In the. C.b.s. She chose to be identified leads a lunchtime protest in chants of the fight for freedom she says no one knows what lies ahead but the protesters must not deviate from their convictions whether or not it is up to the crisis continue we have no choice but to continue and that is why we still come out while we still can was divisions deepening the stakes for coming out are growing ever higher Julie McCarthy n.p.r. News Hong Kong. Apple has removed $181.00 apps related to vaporing from its App Store the company says it's concerned about growing evidence of the health risks of e. Cigarettes especially to young people N.P.R.'s tech correspondent Shannon Bond has more they ping is on the rise and so are smartphone apps connected to Isa Gretz you can buy actual bathing products on the App Store but these apps allow people to interact with their isa Gretz they can make them hotter or change the color they light up if someone loses a bait pen an app can help or find it and vaporise can talk to each other on dedicated social networks it's one of the ways that the industry has made this product uniquely appealing to teenagers and young adults Matthew Meyers is president of the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids which has been urging tech companies to ban videos pictures and apps related to the availability of apps as well as social media and on line sales and u 2 is one of the key contributors to the perception of young people that these products are safe that they're cool and that they're something that young people should be doing for Miers and other public health advocates Apple's ban is a big victory in explaining its decision the company pointed to mounting evidence that they ping is harmful to health. It said babying is quote a public health crisis and a youth epidemic citing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the American Heart Association Apple says it's particularly concerned about its youngest customers more than a quarter of u.s. High school students said they've in the past month according to a recent government survey the v.a. Pen Company packs makes an app that lets users lock their vait pens controlled temperature and flavor but it's no longer available in the App Store packs declined to comment on Apple's ban for people who have already downloaded the banned apps to their i Phones they'll still be able to use them and can move the apps to new devices and that means young people will also still be able to use these smartphone apps if they already have them Shannon bond n.p.r. News San Francisco. And you're listening to n.p.r. News. 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F's Paul Braun reports this will be the 3rd and final governor's race decided in 2019 all 3 in states that elected Trump by large margins in 2016 and all 3 were visited by the embattled president who could use a win ahead of his 2020 bid for reelection polls in the state show Governor Edwards a Democrat leading by a razor thin margin Trump is hoping he can change that and you have a chance to elect a true Louisiana champion Eddie respond to real success. How to get it you got to get out 2 weeks ago a Republican won the open seat in the Mississippi governor's mansion but in Kentucky a Democrat ousted Republican incumbent Matt Bevan as Trump reminded the crowd during his visit to Louisiana this week that he lost by just a few 1000 votes in the headlines in next day trip to gloss a lift him up. So comfortable so you got to give me a big please Ok. Ok judging by the latest Republican messages I would say they're a little bit worried the volume in the tenor went way up very quickly Jennifer Duffy is senior editor at The Cook Political Report she says after Kentucky Trump and Republicans want to stop the bleeding with a win in the easy Ana and they're willing to pay big money to do it respond a long time power donor to Louisiana Republicans has seen a significant increase in contributions since they want to spot the runoff and the Baton Rouge businessman has loaned his own campaign more than $12000000.00 so far he is flooding the airwaves with campaign ads linking himself to President Trump Louisiana State University political science professor Robert Hogan says that could pay off this is a state where politicians are form of entertainment if you will and so they like the idea of the outsider that's why that's a businessman like Trump who's never run for office before did so well in the election Edwards is on pace to spend just as much money as his Republican opponent but the incumbent has taken a decidedly different approach he has desperately tried to steer the discussion in the race away from national politics and downplay his party affiliation he is not a typical Democrat and he can't be in a state like Louisiana Edwards is an unwavering supporter of gun rights and in May He signed one of the strictest anti-abortion laws in the country is not going to give a lot of ground on social issues that's my Kenner Sen Also the wheezy in a state university so he's going to talk about surpluses he's going to talk about budget stability and he's going to talk about Medicaid expansion as no more people are covered it all hinges on who shows up today overall elections officials are predicting the largest turnout for a governor's race in years Jennifer Duffy with Cook Political says at this point anything could happen Republicans had to pull for the 3 governors' races on the ballot they wanted a clean sweep so a 2nd term for Edwards would be a particularly bitter pill for a president who had so much invested in this year's elections and could leave Democrats and Republicans alike speculating on what that might mean for Trump's odds in 2020 for n.p.r. News I'm Paul Braun in Baton Rouge. Just last month the World Health Organization announced that 2 of 3 strains of polio had been eradicated it's been one of the great success stories of modern medicine the disease which of course could lead to paralysis has been reduced to just a handful of cases around the world but now scientists say there's been a troubling setback one of the vaccines used to prevent polio has actually been causing some people to get polio N.P.R.'s Jason Beaubien joins us now Jason thanks for being with us Hey good morning I understand the problem begins with what's called a live vaccine which has little bits of we can polio virus in it given to children around the world what seems to have gone wrong. Yes it that is the crux of it that this the oral polio vaccine that's used primarily in low and middle income countries it's been the work course of this global effort to eradicate polio but it is a live Maxine it's cheap it's easy to administer However this live vaccine is continue to be used worldwide and while you're doing that some of that vaccine has gotten out into the world and it's mutated it starts circulating again just like regular polio but early on it's just it's still a vaccine it's not dangerous and then slowly it sort of regain strength and they're finding they can actually genetically see this scientists can they can actually trace it back directly to the vaccine and now these vaccine link cases are actually causing more cases of paralysis each year than actual traditional what scientists call wild polio we should underscore address and this is not the version of the vaccine that's given to 2 youngsters in the United States why are other countries still using right so in the United States and in Europe and other countries like that we're using an injectable vaccine which is a dead vaccine it is not a live virus and it cannot cause polio so that it should not at all be a concern that the issue however is that it's an injection that has to be given it's given 4 times between the ages of 2 months and 7 years so just the administering it is is difficult and just frankly there is not enough global stockpile of that vaccine to vaccinate all of the children around the world you know 4 times over the course of their childhood so there's some real up problems with that that ultimately would be the goal is to Ventura get to the point where you're not using your polio vaccine but it's not logistically possible at this point. You learned this week the Centers for Disease Control takes this problem so seriously they're actually sending dozens of experts to these countries affected what do they plan to do yeah they're calling it the surge and they are going to be deploying 275 and 100 extra staff from the c.d.c. Out it primarily into Africa to to try to just address these vaccine derived outbreaks and just clamp them down as soon as they can because the idea is that if you can stop them then you will stop that virus from continuing to spread and really try to strengthen these systems so that they can get control of this and hopefully you know get get rid of this other source of polio at a time when they're analyzing only close to actually wiping out the disease N.P.R.'s Jason Beaubien thanks so much You're welcome. Mikhail Khodorkovsky has been an oil oligarch and a prisoner the richest man in Russia and a man in exile in London the new documentary citizen k. Written and directed by Alex Gibney shows how a man who was once a Russian state emblem of capital a success ran afoul of Lattimer Putin and became a dissident and human rights champion but is he still ruthless in pursuing his own ends Alex gave me he's also made the films and the smartest guys in the room and going Clear Scientology in the prison of beliefs joins us from New York thanks so much for being with us thanks Scott good to be with you so how did citizen Kay as he's called in this film and Vladimir Putin 2 powerful men who had every reason to get along become adversaries Well they had ever rather different view of Russia's future and at one point in a famously televised conversation about corruption in Russia Mikhail Khodorkovsky frontally accused Lattimer Putin of corruption a few months later he found himself in a Siberian prison take us back to the Russia the 1990 s. If you could how did Khodorkovsky grow so rich Well it was a wild west period I mean we all remember Gorbachev and Yeltsin on the tank but once Yeltsin got off the tank and Russia started to rebuild itself as a country not an empire that was no longer communist but now capitalist they had to invent capitalism nobody knew anything about it in fact it had been illegal McCotter Kosky started dealing in and black market blue jeans and computers and right around that time the Russian state was handing out vouchers which were actually shares in small state owned enterprises that everybody could grab ahold of the market value was like $3040.00 but they were suppose if you hung on to them long enough it's said you could buy yourself a vulgar or a Russian car but most people didn't know what to do. With them they had no idea what capitalism was like but somebody like me because ski figured out you could buy him on the cheap and the next thing you knew you owned a whole bunch of shares controlling shares in small Russian state owned enterprises and suddenly he became enormously wealthy one of these Russian all of arcs as I call them a tiny number of people who by the end of the ninety's would control 50 percent of Russia's economy to 200 cuffs to begin to question the system in which he'd been so supreme a successful I think initially he saw it as a game and he was good at the game and he was rather ruthless I should say at playing that game but along the way particularly when the ruble dropped through the floor and so did the price of oil he came to own a globe girdling company called Yukos which was an oil company suddenly he found himself in a desperate situation where he's having to lay off thousands of people and he was face to face with the misery that can come when things go wrong I know this was covered at the time to one degree or another but it's quite a thing to see the the film of his trial in this film was his trial fare. Well particularly the 2nd trial was really a joke it was a show trial I mean they accused him of stealing all of the oil that he own and this was after they had accused him of not paying taxes on the oil that he sold so you'd have to wonder how he could steal the oil that he had sold and not pay taxes on and they brought evidence to the trial of things like a conspiracy in the evidence of the conspiracy was a company phone book so it gives you some sense of how ridiculous the trial was it was a complete sham he learned he was going to be sent to prison as far away as you can by counting the number of lunch trays that were in the boxcar in which he traveled they give you one per day and I believe he was handed 7 men it was going to be a 7 day journey by train he ended up in cross in a comments which is near a big uranium mine by the Mongolian borders so he was quite a ways away from Moscow. In prison this man had been an oligarch really seem to develop character I think he learned a degree of humanity and he learned a kind of broader vision of life I mean among his prison writings he said you know I learned that life is not about having It's about being you know it was it was really a show of somebody who was try to see things from the inside out it turned his whole worldview upside down I think and he became much more in touch with what it means to be a human being a citizen it must be said you you spoke with a few people who deeply believe and be Carroll Khodorkovsky had people killed when he was no oligarch at least one person indeed Well there was a we spent a great deal of time investigating the murder of nephew gots this town in Siberia to which we travel today Mikhail Khodorkovsky cannot go back to Russia because he is accused of ordering the murder of that mayor who was back in the day in the ninety's adverse the Holocaust ski we investigated pretty carefully I don't really think that holocaust in fact that I'm fairly certain that holocaust did not order that murder who had custody today is in London he is he's in London today he operates a something called Open Russia which is dedicated to promulgating Democratic ideas in Russia and also supports a number of journalistic efforts to show the details of corruption in the Putin regime I wonder if in the end you trust what he told you. I think the big question is did he really have a change of heart in prison I think everybody wants to tell their own story their way and shaded in a direction that benefits them but in the case of Holocaust I do believe he changed and while he is still possessed of a sense of revenge I think toward Putin and while I think he still possesses the mindset of somebody who's been very rich and powerful I also think he understood in prison what it means to be a citizen and what it means to be a citizen without power and I think he feels fiercely that that is a system that has to change so that part I think I do believe and I do believe he changed Alex Gibney his documentary Citizen Kane open of m 22nd in Los Angeles thanks so much for being with us thank you Scott. You're listening to Weekend Edition from n.p.r. News. We're not sure if they ever tested him on Babylonia as Top Chef but a trio of 4000 year old recipes have been deciphered by a team of international scholars their cookbook are some Babylonian tablets that were 1st discovered in the 1920 s. And thirty's but were not properly translated until the end of the century Harvard Assyria ologist goto bar Yama ditch put together the cooking team he joins us on the line Dr Barnhelm of x. Thanks very much for being with us my pleasure What do you got in the oven for us said 3 stews at the moment one is a peach soon one is a vegetarian and the final one has a laminate Can you give us an idea of what's in the stews the area that is today Syria Iraq and Turkey our ancestral so many of the ingredients that we use in our cooking today and something about 60 percent of the calories that you will have been eating over the last 254 hours I think will have come from the tribbles or animals that were 1st domesticated in this area. Why have these recipes taken so long to come to light. Well people don't expect ancient texts to be food recipes they were known since Yeah the 1920 s. Really but were thought to be perhaps medical texts and stuff like that and it was really only Mary Hasi a scholar from Connecticut who suggested that there might be recipes and people really didn't believe her until a French author scholar in the 980 s. Was asked to write and Cyclopedia article about cooking in the ancient world he had heard about this rumor that they might be recipe so he went to Yale and found out that they were and of course being a Frenchman he started working on the. Show Have you ever tasted any of the recipes Yes I've cooked these many times now and. The big difference between our French colleague Mr bottle and the way that he could handle these texts in the eighty's and now is that we have a somewhat greater knowledge of 1st of all the ingredients listed in the texts themselves we quite simply understand many of the words matter that he did but secondly and more importantly we are working together as a team and he worked alone. Are they good yes they are I would say some of them which is interesting Lee a conclusion that is different from our French colleague he privately acknowledge that he didn't really like much of the food that he was cooking it has something to do with his cultural background or the fact that our recipes are a little bit different and have moved on Little Bit is I guess an open question. It's not as foreign as you might imagine and there are some basic elements that we share with this kind of cooking and there are certain aspects of the human palate which are not going to change which biological remain the same any big name chefs express an interest in making the recipes or putting them into restaurants need name no small name yes all over the place there are lots of people who are contacting me these days and and asking whether you know one would be interested in collaborating on having this presented in a restaurant so red or white Oh I get it these people are beer people in fact lots of the recipes contain beer the Assyrians would have had wine with the food I think. The best of the stews we were getting is a red b. Stew and it has nice sour beer in it a good cover gram of it choose Harvard a cereal a just thanks so much for being with us and Bone Appetite thank you and my pleasure this is n.p.r. News. This week in Washington. 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Howard thanks so much for being with us and good morning Scott how are you I'm fine thanks but you're in Atlanta my friend for the Collin Kaepernick workout today he's been out of football for 3 years reach an agreement as clues in case against the n.f.l. He still really wants to play n.f.l. Football I guess does knee Well that's what it appears to be there have been so many questions that people have asked about this tryout from the Collin Kaplan Exide Why is he doing this after 3 years in a collision lawsuit and lots of humiliation and insults from the president and why would he do this and I think the bottom line is not very complicated I think it's very clear this is his profession he wants to play football this is not been a 2 way relationship in terms of the n.f.l. He's always been very clear that he wanted to play in the n.f.l. And the n.f.l. Also made it clear that they didn't want him so it makes sense that given the opportunity to play he would come and say he was ready you're there to cover the event for e.s.p.n. As only you can my friend but is it a real workout Well it's going to be a great question and I think that you have to take it somewhat at face value even though it's completely unorthodox usually when you bring in a player the teams don't call the n.f.l. The n.f.l. Doesn't set up the workout usually the team calls the player directly and that player comes directly to that team's facility and usually they don't do it on a Saturday before a game day when a lot of the coaches are preparing for a game tomorrow and the scouts in G.M.'s are preparing for a game. On the other hand this is the 1st time since Collin Cavanagh last through a football in the n.f.l. Back on January 1st 2017 that he is going to throw a football in front of a live n.f.l. Personnel. Have to ask about a brutal scene in Thursday night's game between Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers end of the game Myles Garrett the defensive end ripped the helmet off the state of quarterback mation Rudolph took that helmet and clubbed him in the head he's been suspended by the n.f.l. For the rest of the season is that enough I mean even by the standards of n.f.l. Football this was ugly even a criminal act it certainly was I don't know if it's a criminal act it looked it looked awful I think that ball criminal act oh well you know it's funny about that Scott not really funny in terms of hilarity obviously but one when you watch the play Rudolph 1st tries to rip garrets helmet off he doesn't succeed so then Garrett gives him a taste of his own medicine by actually succeeding and then going the extra step of hitting him in the face with it or on the side of the head with it but I think that what I found most interesting about this too was one that Rudolph so far is faced no discipline at all not even a fine yet but the other part of it too is that the n.f.l. In terms of all of its violence in terms of all of its hits. The reason why this was so out of bounds was because Garrett used the helmet as a weapon but the actual hitting the actual game is still so violent that it's not even the worst hit we've seen it's just simply one of the most illegal things that we've seen in the game but in terms of actual viciousness there are so many things that take place inside of those 60 Minutes will be very interesting to see how the n.f.l. Decides he's already gone from the final 6 game to the season but the suspension is indefinite they may bring this into next season as well E.S.P.N.'s Howard Bryant thanks so much thank you and tune into Weekend Edition Sunday with Lulu tomorrow to hear how the Swiss government is backtracking from a proposal to stop stockpiling coffee they have stockpiled 3 months supply of coffee along with other necessities like corn rice wheat and C.D.'s of b.j. Lederman that he writes are theme music but when the government proposed nixing coffee from that list the response from the coffee lobby was positively caffeinated tune in tomorrow by asking your smart speaker to play n.p.r. Or your member station by name. William d. Lopez his book separated examines the ripples that pulls away from a single event never felt for years really for whole lives on a Thursday in November of 2013 Guadalupe Morales her sister in law and their 4 young children were in their small apartment above an auto body shop in Washington or County Michigan when a swat team bearing assault rifles stormed the room. It was a coordinated raid between the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents ice and local police they threw tear gas they knocked on doors and made children scream welcome to Lopez is a clinical assistant professor at the University of Michigan School of Public Health His book is separated family and community in the aftermath of an immigration raid he joins us from the studios of Michigan Radio Nan Arbor Professor thank you for being with us thank you so much for having me we should note that this raid was routine business and to be fair under the previous administration not Donald Trump that is correct that is under the previous administration for our area this was probably a particularly big raid right altogether we see perhaps a dozen men were arrested and perhaps at the half a dozen were ultimately deported so it was a big event that lasted also all day long so it really sent some shock waves and as you mentioned this definitely occurred during the Obama administration but what we do see chairing the Trump administration is something we didn't see during Obama's tenure and that's a return to these large scale work raids so this is often about creating this climate of fear and fear of the unknown help us understand the representations and you write about them too obviously got a loop immorality sent her family but also people around her and washed not County for that matter. Kind of the easiest way to wrap your head around it is to think about. What happened to where the loop is life after her brother in this case and the uncle was removed and so the uncle was the breadwinner for the family so immediately she had to begin working to generate income for her family for children right. So from this from this remove all of a provider for breadwinner x. And many many other circumstances hunger poverty possible homelessness and she was homeless after the raid there was an organization who are rented a hotel for her to stay in after the raid. And then we see just the emotional and psychological repercussions not only of your husband your brother your cousin and your uncle being deported but often of your father being deported right so we see children who the men in their lives are removed and not only the providers but also their emotional support but then on the community level what we also see is folks who begin to distrust social service organizations right then there's this tension of like can I trust the police if I'm this particular race or from this particular immigration status and moreover there's a question of can I trust other government organizations can I trust even local clinics with my immigration status information you wound up being able to trace the ripple effects of this of this 2013 raid to about 20 a little over over 20 people didn't you so that's correct I spoke with many of the individuals who were directly impacted by the raid I mean they were arrested in the morning or they were in the building when it was raided and then I spoke with their family members and they spoke with representatives from social service organizations who support them. It's a good point that after immigration enforcement events like this sometimes it's hard to say where folks end up and how many people are deported and how many people are removed. It has this trauma and then this aura of mystery right so folks scatter folks don't want to be around the places where they think ice and police are going to arrest more people help us know what you can about where God loping or family members are today you know like many folks after the deportation of somebody they know and somebody they depend on life kind of goes up in the air for a while right but then eventually you know as we often see there comes a time where either folks go back to work or they decide to go back to Mexico that's what but now they're decided so for now there's something I was wife after he was deported she just didn't have the income to take care of her 2 young kids and she was extremely traumatized by the event she would talk about how she had nightmares and couldn't sleep and felt like she could be a good mother anymore and. As well as many others in the book moved and that's one of the main points I took away from this work is that the raid happens arrests happen deportation happens on one day during the year right but it's the other 364 days are fundamentally shaped by that one event we fear the traumatic event and we fear the removal and she lives every day you know with that possibility of what could happen William de Lopez his book separated thank you so much for being with us thank you for having me. Mary Louise Parker is in our studios she's joined rave reviews for her central role in Adam raps to character drama the sound inside she plays Bella the mid fifty's English prophet jail who goes from a gray room to her grey office lighten mostly by literature and it gets a crisis of a medical diagnosis just as Christopher played by Will Hawkman shows up at her door for guidance he's a freshman writing a novel she feels she needs the most intimate form of assistance it's not what you may think the sound inside is directed by David Cromer Burley's Parker thanks so much for being with us thank you for having me. This is a tough but rewarding night. In the theater why did you want me Bill why didn't 1st I wasn't sure I was the right person for it but I thought it was such a beautiful piece of writing and I did a reading of it I don't know that this she was very available to me I feel like she was there in a way that I wasn't really expecting. Just below the most enjoyable live in her head I think she does yeah my friend Eli is a writer he says you know interesting writing is the product of interesting thinking and I think that's where she lives in between that space between her imagination and the page and I think that's the strongest and most important relationship she has at one point Christopher the young man says you don't want you have any friends yeah. I think it's a bit overstated in that moment but I think what's more important is that he hits a nerve that has a kernel of truth in it I don't think she feels terribly close to anyone really well that raises another question that I had written down or are they lonely were they merely alone I think in this case I think they are lonely I feel like when they do find some sort of safe place in one another or some sort of free form of communication there's an energy that is released from both of them the sort of like this need to pursue that if they hadn't been in some form of self isolation and then found someone they wanted you know as company then they wouldn't necessarily be lonely I think they would just be happy with their solitude. Real nuts and bolts question. You were on stage for the entire play than talking for I don't know 80 percent of it yeah oh how does that to pull off every time. It's quite hard us but I can I really I love a challenge like that and I used to say I liked to be on stage the whole play because then I knew I would not miss an entrance. And I spent most of the plays that I've done I've been like that. This part requires a lot of technique. And most requires that because I don't want you to see the technique I want you to feel like there's a person standing there talking just just talking. And that's the hardest thing and it's is the challenge that I love actually let me ask a little more about Christopher he. Is it fair to say that Christopher is a little bit or well I think he's wildly insecure and which usually must arrogant people are and I think he wants to impress her you quickly get a sense that there's some kind of bond of communication between them they both tell each other now you're writing they write a difference between talking and ready Right exactly exactly and both of them will say the wrong thing and the other one even if they have a reaction they move past it and he has an incredibly. Interesting way of expressing himself and I think that's the 1st thing that she notices and it's the thing that takes her in the most he's writing as he's speaking and she can hear that. Without giving anything away Bella has Christopher for an extraordinary favor Yes I'm not sure favor is the word but I couldn't come up with that I know it's hard and I think better and for the 1st time. I found myself disliking Bella thinking my gosh your teacher a great you shouldn't ask this agreed Yeah I understand where she's coming from and why I still think it's I think it's the wrong choice and I still think it's a flaw but you know it's impossible to play a person without flaws Yeah I'm glad to hear you say that because I haven't really heard people sort of acknowledge that. The middle lighten up the conversation briefly. Though maybe not. Is there something you did on your way here that would surprise people a job of some kind or oh yeah I had all kinds of jobs like all kinds of jobs I did telemarketing surveys I handed out perfume samples in the mall with a basket of cotton balls I remember the name of the perfume if you can believe it Gerald Flora Donica do you take something from each of those jobs and. As you go forward as an actor each of those experiences not the job I don't know I mean I think everyone should have to work a variety of different jobs because I think you know people don't sometimes people approach. You know the person who delivers their groceries or the person who's taking their order and as there are some other phylum So the person handing you that perfume sample could win a Tony one day it well don't you think that I didn't get on that's not why when I would look around at people I think that person is might be a 1000000 times more talented than me at x.y.z. There's this wonderful book called The short and tragic life of Robert piece by Jeff Hobbs it's a really profound book and for me. That's what I took away from that book is that you have no idea of someone's capacity when you encounter them. Mary Louise Parker stars in the sound inside with Will Hawkman Studio 54 theater thanks so much for being with us thank you thank you so much. 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I'm Scott Simon the House Intelligence Committee open impeachment hearings this week one of the many dramatic moments very of on a former u.s. Ambassador to Ukraine recalled seeing the president refer to her as bad news it was it was a terrible moment person who saw me actually reading the transcript said at the. Color drained from my face I think I even had a physical reaction a former prosecutor refused the week's news for a soldier Ugandan singer and actress Bobby wine and always rallying for change in his country and Joe Henry on the songs but discouraging diagnosis and put into words our 1st we have our newscast today is Saturday Nov 16th 2019. Live from n.p.r. News in Washington I'm Louise Schiavone Foreign Service Officer David Holmes has told House impeachment investigators he overheard a phone call from President Trump to e.u. Embassador Gordon song lead in which Trump was loudly asking about a request for Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Biden and his son the work of House impeachment investigators continues today and P.R.'s Windsor Johnson reports Mark Zandi would be the 1st employee of the White House Office of Management and Budget to cooperate with House investigators congressional Democrats had requested testimony from other o.m.b. Staffers but they all declined to appear citing orders from the White House Counsel's Office Sandy is expected to be questioned about the agency's role in withholding nearly $400000000.00 in military aid to Ukraine.