You and ive been doing that. Yesterday i caught up with trumps running mate governor mike pennsylvania at the Ohio State University before the buckeyes opening game against bowling green. Wasnt much of a game, by the way. Ohio state won big 7710. I asked pence to explain trumps position on deporting undocumented workers in this country and then i had to ask again and again and again. Here it is. It begins with building a wall, border security. It begins with laws of this country, removing criminal aliens and removing people who over stayed their visa, ending catch and release, strengthening border patrol, strengthening immigration and customs enforcement. Doing the things we talked about. The e verify system for employers. All the things we know will bring all the incentives that are build into the economy, all of the ways that illegal immigration has been made possible in this country all of think thats exactly what the American People want to hear today. With regard to anyone that remains after all of that is done, i think what you heard donald trump say is that well give consideration working with the congress in a new and reformed immigration system to consider it at that time, but what the American People want to see today is to establish the borders of this country and enforce the laws of this country and donald trump created a road map to do that, chuck. C say what will happen to the folks . He used to definitively say it. He said everybody has to leave, even quickly, everybody has to leave and now there is some muddiness to this. I dont know how its just unclear to me. Can you clear this up . Well, maybe the way you see it. The look at this some 10,000 people in arizona last week, it wasnt the way they see it. As i travelled across this country campaigning with donald clear and hes been completely consistent. Illegal Immigration Center of the national debate. But hes not been consistent on this debate what to do with the 11 to 15 million. There are people in different circumstances in that category there are people that are criminal aliens in this country and i think everyone in this country understands people who are here violent crimes. People who are here, their first act was violation of the law but have gone on to criminal activity in america, we want quickly. Donald trump made it very clear that a priority of our administration will be removing criminal aliens. Well also be finding people who have over stayed their visa, an enormous number of people come to this country legally and over stay their visas because we make no effort to hold them accountable to that or uphold the law. The simple truth is that what the American People long to see is leadership at the national that youre focused on and i foe the media loves to focus on but you focus on the american there was a bunch of latino leaders that backed away from supporting your ticket because they didnt like what they heard on wednesday because they were told one thing and felt misled. One of them said they felt misled and one of the major issues has to do with what about this issue of deportation and what are you going to do . Not just media. I was campaigni to this country legally with his family came up to me wearing a trump penn shirt, shook my hand and said tell donald trump we support him 100 . People who have come to this country legally, who stood in line and played by the rules in the latino and Hispanic Community like every other american belonged to have a president saying we are a nation of laws and well uphold and enforce those laws. What i thought was most arizona was different frankly, chuck, with all due respect to the medias focus on the 11 million or whatever that number is. He was focused on them more than 300 Million People who are citizens of this country and here legally in this country and driving policies in immigration that will work for them, work for the future of our nation. Make no mistake about it, i hope your viewers have a chance to read or to see that speech in establishing a commission to reform our broken Immigration Laws, whole cloth to really to reform and change the way that people have the ability to come into this country, and do it all in a way thats in the interest of the American People and in the interest of the longterm future of our country. Is it fair to say youre not going to answer this question about the 11 to 15 million. I think Donald Trumps been completely consistent and i think he did answer. Is it an open question . He hasnt when it comes to he said Deportation Force and everybody has to leave. He said everybody has to leave. We got to have borders. Now hes saying hes open to doing Something Different with whoever remains, which would be about half. Well, i think we i think we really dont know what that number is. Or who that is until we do all plan to come out of the shadows if you dont tell them what the penalty will be. I think, look, donald trump made it very, very clear that in his tenpoint plan well build a wall, well enforce the laws of this country and end catch and release and do all of the things that politicians in both poll lit. Caller party haves been talking about. He said no amnesty and path to legalization if people want to to leave the country. So they get legal without leaving the country. This is where we get confused. He also said not under the existing caps and program but rather under a new and reformed immigration program. I mean, when you heard donald trump call for was border security, building a wall, which actually Hillary Clinton actually said that she was for a physical barrier im told just a few short years ago. What do you do with socalled with they came over here, their parents brought them illegally, they were kids and here now and gone to public school. What do you do with them . I think all of these he said hell resend the executive order. Of course. What do you do with them . Do they live in the shadows . Of course hes going to resend the constitutional orders. Supreme court turned back with the administration. He wont as Hillary Clinton promises to do executive amnesty. How are you going to force an ally to pay for the wall . I understand the remitting idea you do the patriot act. That feels like shake down. Well, look, we have an Enormous Economic relationship with mexico and this week you saw donald trump travto mexico president and start a constructive dialogue first on issues they agree on but im very confident when donald trump becomes negotiator in chief, well sit down with our ally in mexico, who shares with us what is there incentive to pay for this wall . Other than were going to with hold money . Thats the incentive. The United States of america is the most powerful economy on the face of the earth. And every other country in the world. As we go into whether its reforming nafta, as both of these leaders talked about in their leading this last week, or broad range of areas of our relationship. There is one thing donald trump knows is how to do a deal. Let me ask you, first of all you had a campaign in utah. There are a lot of mormons in particular dont like the muslim ban. Dont like the revised version of targeting religions and come home from missions and talk about helping the Syrian Refugees. They are very im sure you heard some complaints personally about this. What did you tell concerned utah residents about the muslim ban . I was frankly overwhelmed by the support that i encountered in utah and later in the day in idaho. I have to tell you, people are agenda to make America Great again and they are responding. In utah there is great concern about the Supreme Court of the United States. The muslim ban. When he first came out, you basically said its unconstitutional. Why do you think it would target countries or religion, why do you think thats unconstitutional. The policy of barack obama and Hillary Clinton resulted in the wider weve seen syria imploding into civil war and libya imploding into civil war. We have entire countries in that region of the world and territoies compromised by terrorism. I think what donald trump has said is we have to immediately suspend immigration from any countries that have been compromised by terrorism. You can make a case over 100 countries have been compromised. Is a give me the definition of a country compromised by terrorism. France . Germany . The United States . Chuck, lets start with syria. Hillary clinton wants to increase Syrian Refugees to this country by 550 . I dont think the United Nations is asking the United States to increase for what its worth. We acre cemented 10,000 and they want us to accept 65,000. Sure, Hillary Clinton wants to increase Syrian Refugees to this country by 1065. Thats what the u. N. Requested. Donald trump and i believe we should suspend the sierran refugee program. Completely. And create working with arab countries to create safe zones for people to escape the wartorn areas but to continue to allow people into this country when our own homeland security, our own fbi says we cant know for certain who these second to the agenda to the u. N. Or liberals and donald trump is simply not going to do that. Quick question about the leadership of the campaign there are troubling allegations against steve bannon, things he may have said about jewish people, things that may have happened between them and his wife. There are troubling allegations having to do with robert ails. Both are advisors to this campaign. Are you comfortable with that considering some of the allegations you are you comfortable with the involvement . I promise you the person leading Donald Trumps campaign is donald trump. We talk several times a day. Hes a hands on leader. Appropriate for roger ailes to be involved . I trust Donald Trumps judgment to assemble around this team a group that will help us move forward and be success and feel win and come on, i mean, steve bannon has denied all of those allegations divorces are divorces. But its troubling allegations people will look and say, all right, steve bannon and all these allegations against roger ailes, it feels as if does he ignore troubling allegations against people that work for him . I trust donald trump to assemble a team around him in this campaign has he has and will continue to. Youll continue to see people added to this campaign. What is really remarkable for me having joined this Campaign Just six weeks fact that this campaign has always been propelled by a movement of the American People. I mean, with Hillary Clinton there is 1,000 employees and experts and pollsters and people in the republican primary who had significant apparatus, as well. The other big news story besides trumps immigration muddle, in a friday news dump, releasing notes in the 3. 5er hour interview with Hillary Clinton. Not a recording, just notes. The top take aways, clinton claims she did not understand basic classification procedures and didnt recall training how to handle classified information. In fact, clinton said quote she could not recall or could not remember key details more than three dozen dimes and told the fbi she thought the c on an email referred to the er paragraphs instead of quote the word confidential which is the lowest level of classification. Former secretary of state colin powell advised her to be very careful in how she used private email and a computer specialist whose name was redacted deleted Clinton Emails weeks after the existence of clintons private server became public in march of 2015. The fbi said it requested 13 clintons private email system but clintons law firm could not produce them. One staffer said he destroyed two mobile devices by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer. After governor pence and i walked outside we talked about clintons emails. Here is an excerpt. Its more evidence Hillary Clinton is the most dishonest candidate for president of the United States since richard nixon. Thats a tough charge. It is a tough charge, chuck, but come on. Ill just ask you this, thoug as you claim, why isnt the fbi prosecuting . Hillary clinton, what is evident from the notes, whats evident from all of the revelations over the last several weeks is that Hillary Clinton operated in such a way to keep her emails and particularly her interactions while secretary of state with the Clinton Foundation out of the public reach, out of public accountability. You guys have Higher Ground idea of transparency and accountability if you guys were as transparent releasing the tax returns, and releasing tax returns, it is whatever you want to say about the clintons, we know this because the information is either been dragged out of them or its been disclosed. We dont have any disclosures. We dont have your tax returns yet. Donald trump and i are both going to release our tax returns. Ill release mine in the next week. Donald trump will be releasing completion of an audit. That wont be before the election. Well, well see. Okay. The issue is not one of information not available or that the incomprehensible decision she made as secretary of state to have a private server in her home and 11 different blackberries and mobile devices but goes to the question why did she do that and other emails that have come out effort to paper over and conceal a paytoplay process to was underway while she was secretary of state. Let me ask you this, in the spirit of transparency, you sealed your congressional record and they wont be opened up. Are you going to resend that order . Well certainly look the right to know and frankly now because you would err in the side of transparency. You know me, chuck. Efforts in the media and independent organizations to your point, by the clinton gives evidence to the fact Hillary Clinton is the most dishonest person in the United States since richard nixon. Coming up, Bernie Sanders joins me live for Hillary Clinton. What happens to clintons big lead in the polls . Lead in the polls . It doesnt appear that welcome to the world 2116, you can fly across town in minutes or across the globe in under an hour. Whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites in less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. And if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. Team, what if 30,000 people download the new app . Were good. Okay. What if a Million People download the new app . Were good. Five million . Mand. Hybrid infrastructure, boom. Ok. What if 30 Million People download the app . Were not good. Were total heroes. Scale on demand with the Number One Company in cloud infrastructure. Welcome back. Political strategist alex casillanos. Kristen welker of nbc news who is covering the Clinton Campaign for us. Welcome, all. Let me start with you. Pence trying to defend trump on immigration. What did you think . Um, well, he is not going to answer the operative question, which is the one multiple times. Whats he going to do with the undocumented workers . I think what pence what pence signed on to he knew what he was getting into, right . There was no question of, like, i wonder what it would be like to run with donald trump. You knew what you were getting. I think what he has made peace with when he took this, im going to go as far as i comfortably can as a much more main line politician than donald heard this on taxes as well. What im not going to do is put my own personal credibility on the line. Im going to say donald trump has been i think donald trump has been consistent. These are Donald Trumps views. He did the same thing on the roger ales question. Trump owns ales. He is not going to own it, and he wont say anything about the undocumented workers. I dont know that trump knows what he wants to do with them, so im not sure if you asked trump candidly, he would be able to give you an answer. You are a longe strategist. It seemed to me that we saw sometimes it was clumsy, but over an eightday period the trump folks were plowing the field and basically waiting for trump to change his position. On wednesday the mexico city day they thought, well, okay. Something is afoot. Then the wednesday night speech. Missed opportunity . I think it was a bit of a missed opportunity in the sense that, you know, we all lock our the people outside but because we love the people inside, and i think the tone of the speech was not matching the words of the speech. At the same time theres a little bit of softening and evolution of the position. The tone of it is very hard line. I like what donald trump is doing on immigration. Its much more honest than we usually get from politicians. You know, Barack Obamas plan was to close guantanamo. He ran opposing health ca oh, thats what he is going to do if elected. You know it doesnt work that way. Its much more honest to say, look, were going to do a few big things. Were going to build a wall. Were going to get the bad guys out of here. Were going to work iterate were going to fix this as we go. I think thats a much more honest approach. Donald trump is so disingenuous. Its not an honest approach to arizona law, its the show me your papers law. Its a law that condones racial profiling that the Supreme Court said you have to gut. The principal problem that the latino voter has with the Immigration Law is its all code word of we dont like the browning of america. When you Start Talking that you are going to go ahead and repeal the 14th amendment, birth right citizenship, when you tell an american journalist to go back to univision, and you tell people to go ahead and speak english, we know youre talking complexity of immigration reform, these are not individuals that live in silos. Imagine being in the living room. Youre watching the donald trump speech as you are eating dinner, and you know that the person sitting next to you, your grandmother or aunt is undocumented. Were talking about 6. 5 million mixed status households. He wants it both ways, but he has been very clear that he considers two different types of americans and one, unfortunately, is not the browning of it. We got stories that the rnc said dont tweet about the speech. It was the mike pence approach. Were not going to say anything. And a republican official tells me there was an immediate realization within the rnc and also within the Trump Campaign to some extent that the tone was off, as you say, but also the optics were off. The fact that he was delivering this speech throwing out red meat to the base in arizona after that trip to mexico there was a sense why did this speech at the brookings institution, for example . This is supposed to be a serious policy speech, and it turned out why led him get fed i mean, he to me that day it is the Donald Trumps president ial campaign in microcosm. You keep thinking, well, he is reading off now, people say its a he is reading off the teleprompter. He is totally sounding like he he looks statesmanlike. Then a tweet from the mexican clear about theyll pay for the wall. He is going to pay for it. He just doesnt know it yet. The optics of that what if his day had ended at 5 00 p. M. What if he had flown from mexico city to la guardia and went to bed at 5 00 p. M. . Im 62 years old. I shouldnt do any Public Events after 5 00 p. M. You dont want a 70yearold man doing it either. I dont think you should. I think you are right. The first half of the beautiful. By the way, trump is moving up in the polls. Just a teeny bit even despite all of this. The first half of the day he is standing on the world stage, he looks president ial. The mexican president doesnt have the strength that he has, cant stand up to trump. Overall a good impression. Maria, very quickly. A little criticism from some latino leaders thinking the Clinton Campaign has been a little slow with their latino voter pitch. No Spanish Language advertising in general election states so far. Republican candidate has actually given the Hillary Campaign tons of media in spanish media, so much so is that we have free media. I mean, to really crystallize it, there is a latino astrol astrologist that weve all grown up listening to, he has her challenge is actually going to get the latino millls dominant that may not be turning it on. Guess what, im going to have an interesting millenial conversation with someonemillen of appeal to millenials. Well be back with none other than Bernie Sanders who declared a revolution during the primaries, and he now hopes he can get his revolutionaries to vote for his former opponent. Bp is pioneering Drone Technology to monitor refinery operations, so our engineers can spot potential problems from any angle. And always working to be better. A when your symptoms start. Distracting you . Doctors recommend taking. Nondrowsy claritin every day of your allergy season. Claritin provides powerful, nondrowsy 24 hour relief. For fewer interruptions from the Amazing Things you do every day. Live claritin clear. 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Bp drilling teams train in Virtual Reality simulators in here, so were better prepared for any situation out there. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. Welcome back. Senator Bernie Sanders will be hitting the road solo. A state clinton needs to win in november and a state sanders was victorious during the primaries. Overall sanders won 22 states and pushed clinton to the left and developed an intensely loyal following and hopes to bring the voters to clintons side. Senator sanders, welcome back to the show, sir. Thank you very much. Let me ask you about your revolution and i put it this way, why d success getting your voters to support you but youve had less success in seeing your voters for instance poll an upset over Debbie Wasserman schultz in florida and no progressive upsets in primaries where your motivated base came out for you but not for others . How do you explain that . Its not quite accurate, chuck. A gentleman in florida did a lot think he did pretty well. He got 43 of the vote taking on a pillar of the establishment. I think youre going to see a very strong candidate for the United States congress in upstate new york, and in the state of washington. When . I hope in november. They both won their primaries. And i think youre going to see candidates for state legislature all over this country for city un what the Political Revolution is about is transforming america and getting millions of people involved. Not just the president but people coming together and saying we need a government that represents all of us and not just the 1 and thats not going to happen overnight, chuck, but i think it is happening. Senator, one of your supporters host of progressive human report pod cast and he was really upset at you personally abandoned him. He thought where were you . You didnt campaign for him and said look thanks feeling you felt when Elizabeth Warren abandoned you a chose to run away from you during the massachusetts primary, thats what tim is feeling now. What do you say to him or other sanders supporters that feel you dont do enough . Well, you know, there are a lot of things happening in this country and my own state and work ive got to do. I cant do everything. I would say t as i understand the contributed 600,000 to mr. Kanovas campaign is a significant contribution. I think what you are going to be seeing in the weeks and months to come, chuck is me playing an active roll not only trying to make sure that donald trump does not become president of the United States, but that in fact we create a movement for this campaign and for the future, which our government responds to the needs not of the Koch Brothers but ordinary people. One thing i think secretary clinton will need with you is the help with millennials. At the beginning of august, overall we had, this was an early august poll, clinton 43 and trump 34 and gary johnson and jill stein but among those aged, they together get 29 of folks under 35. Thats more than trump. Clinton sits at 37. A lot of those folks are your supporters, as you know. Jill stein is making a direct appeal and so is gary johnson. What do you tell the folks right now have been wooed by them. This campaign is supposed to be about. Its about the real issues impacting the American People. Hillary clinton or donald trump will become president of the United States and there is no question to my mind that Hillary Clinton is far, far, far and away the superior candidate. Look at the issues. Which candidate will raise the minimum wage. Which candidate will make them tuition free. Which candidate will do something about the great Environmental Crisis we face, which is Climate Change, which is candidate doesnt acknowledge the reality of Climate Change which is donald trump . Which candidate will rebuild the recrumbling iinfrastructure. I think what people got to say is this is not about trump. Its not about clinton. Its about the American People on all of those issues, truck, candidate. Do you think gary johnson should be in the debates . I think they have, you know, generally speaking my view is that if people reach a certain level, you can debate about what that level is. I think, what is it, 15 you think but you think that level, that 15 is a fair metric. Its probably too high. You think it should be lower. Lower than that. Let me play for you perhaps one of the more famous sound here it is. The American People are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails. Me, too, me, too. That happened almost a year ago. That was october to have 2015. Here we are september of 2016. You may not care about then but a lot of people do. Do you have advice for Hillary Clinton and how to handle this . You struggled with the foundation and thought the foundation was problematic. Foundation down . The latter part of my statement which doesnt get recorded much, what the American People want to hear about is real issues impacting their lives. Why middle class is declining. Why were the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people. Thats what i believe then and now. Chuck, every other mjor country on earth, 50 miles away from where i am now the top onetenth of one percent owns as much as the bottom 90 . Those are issues i need to focus on, politicians and the media. Let the American People get involved and at the end of the discussion, people will see clinton as the superior candidate. I understand that but you cant govern if you dont have trust. Can she rebuild trust by pledging something to do that . Foundation . Would you tell her to do . I would certainly suggest that has president of the United States she should seize all operations, all contact with the Clinton Foundation. Does that mean shutting it down or just not being involved . Can you truly at the very least she should at the very least she should not be involved at the very least. Would you feel more comfortable if it didnt exist during her time as presi good things with aids and so forth so i cant definitively answer that. I think, chuck, what weve got to do as a nation is have a serious debate on the enormous crisis facing this country, that is where our focus has got to be. Senator Bernie Sanders on the campaign trail again tomorrow. Well be watching. Enjoy labor day and campaign may not be exactly what it seems to be. Before we go to break, you got to see this scene from the vatican, this is where pope francis officially elevated Mother Teresa to saint hood. Shell be known as saint teresa shell be known as saint teresa after calcutta. 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Survey a monkey with clinton at 41 this past week down three points from the post convention in early august. Trump 37 down a point from gained a point and no answer gained two points so collectively, clinton and trump lost four from the convention bounces while johnson and stein gained four. Trump is actually up two from early august and the combination of johnson, stein and all others, that also went up two points. While trump does gain in the poll, he doesnt go up as much as clinton drops. Lets go to the states. Well look at poll from marguette law school. Clinton is down four points from her Convention Lead and trump is down a point, at the same time johnson is up a point and no preference up two. Again, clinton and trump down six collectively while johnson, stein and no preference up six. An election where voters cast their eye towards anyone other than the two major party impact on clinton support than trumps. 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You asked Bernie Sanders if its too late to turn that around. I think thats baked into the cake. Thats part of democrats concern about the fact shes been off the campaign trail for so long. They want her to get back in the game so she can defend herself. Because its fbi policy that at this point unless the person has been arrested, do you record an interview. Fbi doesnt do this and i have to say, it is sort of its disconcerting no matter who you are, the fbi or person being interviewed. There is no record here. Youre going by notes. Im uncomfortable with all this. I feel like there is an audio record of everything. Outside lawyer they dont release. This is sort of over and above. The releasing of the interview and the report. The problem is it feeds into a narrative for folks that dont know thats the standard practice, she gets some special treatment but clearly shes not. I have to say, its befuddling policy, i think. She has been treated, i think, a little differently than somebody on the fbi, this kind of investigation. They bring and above. They bring her in late in the ninth inning when the investigation is almost over when most investigations like this you start interviewing key folks like that early and thats how petraeus ends up getting caught on perjury. You walk people through. They lay it out all in front of her at the last minute. This you okay with this . Her problems are much bigger than this. Her problem is she was dishonest and said there was no classified information and that was just not true and on top of foundation. Something that has been called a slush fund. This is my favorite part by the sunlight foundation. This is my favorite part is fox recently did a piece on the Clinton Foundation saying the scandal is that there is no scandal. Right . If you look at the work the Clinton Foundation has done its good work actually, its not. And trump took his Foundation Money and actually wrote a check to a campaign. That is actually illegal. Trump because if you dont goes back to mike pence. If you want to make this an issue, you got to release something. You got to be on even Higher Ground and there is nothing. Her clear weakness and a real flaw if we talked about this in any other context with any other candidate between 55 and 65 of the public consistently said the words honest and trustworthy dont apply. Anye say thats a big problem. The thing is, you cant beat something with nothing. Yes, you can all right. Well find out. Were testing what donald trump happens all the time. No tax returns. You know, Everybody Knows why its not being released. This idea hes under audit is an excuse. He doesnt want the scrutiny the clintons have gotten. Who would . The clintons got the scrutiny because of public not about who is running for press conferences and she needs to be listen, i would be for a world where democrats were held in the same standard as republicans. I dont happen to live in that one. However, of course he doesnt want the attention on him in a campaign. You want it on your opponent makes all the sense in the world and by the way, there is an interesting question in a focus group, do you care more about hillarys emails or Donald Trumps tax returns . They care much more about Hillary Clintons emails. Thats poly. You know what is in tax returns . Dont you want to know if your president will use his presidency to enrich himself or not . Apparently Hillary Clintons voters dont because that idea that somehow the Clinton Foundation is this wonderful thing that helps people, most charities give 75 of their money. The Clinton Foundation gives less than ten. Gave 9 million. The striking thing its a slush fund. Donald trumps unfavorable ratings are actually higher than secretary clintons and you talk about the taxes. Not necessary. He is in the latest no, i got a survey in ohio that says Hillary Clintons negatives are higher than Donald Trumps nationally look, they are fighting hard to be each and i think hes [ laughter ] finish your thought. The debates are coming up and i think this will become a bigger problem for donald trump that he hasnt hes going to have to actually answer this question over and over again on a much bigger stage. Doesnt this feel like the least worst choice . I mean, that seems like what were headed for. The least worst choice. When you have two people. Two historically popular nominees, guess what . Between now and november 8th, nasty or not better. You will see who wins with a remarkable hilda climb. No doubt. Game coming and those i cant live without you messages from your secret admirers. Coming up, meet the listening to music in the shower can help you conserve water, so start your Favorite Song when you get in, and when its done, times up. Youve probably conserved at least ten gallons of water. Back with end game a. Starting quote from a former member of Congress Michele Bachmann in an interview she did with the network and david brody who was a familiar face with the dramatic but i want to be truthful and i believe without a shadow of a doubt this is the last election. This is it. This is the last election and the reason i say that is because its a math problem. Shes going to change the demographics of the United States so that no republican will ever win again. All right. Alex, i got to go to you on this because im old enough to remember when the republicans had the demographic advantage and democrats had the older voters and this is all it. It happens. Shame on michele bachmann. If she only believes that this Republican Party that are principles are good for people like her, they are not good for women, minorities, for everybody she shouldnt be a republican. If thats all the faith you have, hers is dead. By the way, that kind of thinking created the vacuum that candidates and let an outsider come in. It was all about us and not about the future. There is a message out there. Another generation of republicans. Lets open this economy so everybody benefits. Lets open the schools. Lets open up health care. Shes the pass. Shes what is wrong with the Republican Party. The Republican Party had the latino vote to lose. What i mean is the latinos are the fastest purveyors of business. More socially conservative. Older generati Republican Party is a White Nationalist party. No, she didnt. The one look at donald trump if you actually want i wish a party of idea. I know. I know. I got to pause you guys here because i ha i have my own littn thing that im trying to get across here. A different show. Some days. I want to make note of some of those annoying emails we all and youre wondering gee, why are you stalking me . Like a jilted ex lover. Kiss everything goodbye or how about running out of time or this one, ive lost hope. By the way, these are not you dont need to get a restraining order. These are end of the month political fundraising emails come from committees or individual candidates. I have to say very quickly, mr. Salizza i have so many of them. My inb it obviously works but its like to me, i throw them away. They are jokes. I used to. I would be like Hillary Clinton, wait a minute. Thats not like they do it so it feels i know. Just like getting mail where they try to get you to open it this is important. Along for the nigerian principle. I miss the nigerian prince on nbc and humberto on todays show, we take a look at the new season of orange is the new black. Then we go off broadway. Plus, we take a look at the fuerza film fest and the musical stylings of sin color. Trust me when i tell you this can only be seen on latination. [captioning made possible by latv] welcome to latination, celebrating your generation from coast to coast. Im your host humberto guida. And on this weeks show, its all about celebrating alternative lifestyles, people, and events. Now, few shows capture the nature of the notsotypical experience like the very provocative prison dramedy orange is the new black. And this season on the breakthrough show, the spotlight turns to