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Immigration officials the Associated Press reports Eugene Jang was supposed to be deported when Jang was arrested at Trump's resort she was carrying for cell phones and a computer this raised questions of whether Zhang was spying I'm corps of a Coleman n.p.r. News in Washington support for n.p.r. Comes from n.p.r. Stations other contributors include I drive maker of remote p.c. Providing real time remote access to computers anywhere and featuring remote p.c. Vision and augmenting reality support to learn more at remote p.c. Dot com. You're listening to World Cafe arena Duras the Byrds The Beach Boys The Mama's in the Buffalo Springfield in the mid sixty's in Laurel Canyon l.a. They were electrifying folk music and putting on the radio for the 1st time they were making the music that would make music history. On that amazing moment. All telling stories to. The film's executive producer and visit his conversation with her along with the film's director and music industry veteran Slater in the canyon is now streaming on Netflix it's got a soundtrack full of covers done by Jacob Dylan and a band featuring guests like back Fiona Apple and. We'll hear. With Jacob in a bit but 1st here's Jacob Dillon. With the echo in the canyon band performing the plays on the album Slater who produced and directed the film it's really an amazing undertaking guys congratulations and welcome to World Cafe. Thank you for having us here yeah it's a pleasure so 1st of all the crazy band that we just heard perform live They're incredible and where do you find them. In a deli it really yeah not really you know you never know where you're going to find inspiration or a great musician there is a there's a deli in Los Angeles counters and in the early ninety's it was a place where Jake up and the Wallflowers had 1st started playing and it was a whole scene going on in Fairfax Avenue and in l.a. And but so will occasionally we go back there and I need Tuesday nights there's a jam session and some of those guys were there and so you know they became part of the of the band. And then in terms of assembling casts the folks that you have talking in the movie you've got Eric Clapton David Crosby Graham Nash Stephen Stills Lou Adler Michelle Phillips This is like the most amazing rock'n'roll Rolodex that I can imagine So how did you go about approaching Are these people that that you know through your travels are you flipping through your phone sort of and thinking like oh yeah we should call this person we should call this person or their wish list I think most of them you know I think we knew personally or had connections to to be able to reach out some not the ones that kind of came up as I want to long were because the story was developing in a way that we needed to speak to certain people that maybe weren't the original number of people that we talked to tell me somebody like me an example of that. Well I'm like maybe Lou Adler was somebody that wants a story really developed became clear that we needed to talk to him if he was willing and for people who don't know who he is why seen him sort of part of the story want to give some of his well Lou was responsible for recording all of the Mamas and Papas records and among many other great things don't produce or it's he produced Carole King but you know for us it was really looking at the songs and then the songs and performing them and then and then going to the authors of the songs to find out why they were written and what was going on at that time so those songs became the entry point to the bands and then we wanted somebody from either the author of the song if they were alive or someone from the band to talk about what was happening a why the song was written because there's always a great story behind every song yeah there is give a favorite story behind a song from the movie that you learned along the way well I did not know that the Mamas and Papas 1st single go or you want to go was. The subject of that song was Michel and the nature of her relationship with John Philips which was a loose one I guess well let's we have we I really have a clip of that part that that was to me also one of the standout moments in the film so I should just say for people for we hear this clip that. Michelle Phillips is married to John Phillips in the Mamas and The Papas and then she also has a moment with their fellow band mate Danny and here's what she says about that on the cover of our 1st album I'm lying back in Danny's arms this is before we got cut really the 1st night that we were together we had all been sitting at the table and John and Cass looked over and they were asleep and that's when Denny just got up and he walked over to the sliding glass door and off we went I was raised in a very free atmosphere to me having an affair was not as serious as it was to the rest of them I had had an affair before Danny when John and I had 1st gotten married so it was something that John had already experienced just me and that's when he wrote Go where you want to go. So as somebody who talks to artists about personal stories sometimes I know I know who did it can be. It's a really intimate thing that you're seeing with somebody especially when you have a kind of relationship with them where you feel like you're just talking which is sort of ideal territory for interviews and then people are also going to see it. For you being sort of like the witness to all of these stories in the movie as we see them like what's a moment like that like re sitting across from Michelle you're hearing the legend of this song and it's a really personal moment that I'm just telling you about. Well both you have backgrounds in journalism an ending that noted pretty early on that people were maybe discussing things with me knew a little more candidly than they might if they were sitting down with a tape recorder maybe because I'm another artist I suppose but maybe these have enough experience that they are comfortable doing that and maybe they discuss some things that no one's asking I want to get out there just after all these years I'm not really sure but I do know that everybody gave the stories that most of us had never heard before yeah it colors the song in a wonderful way which is my favorite I guess outcome of hearing the story behind a song and Michelle's as a rock in the movie like that this green she's really beautiful We're going to you guys do a live version that recorded a little bit earlier on stage this is what we call you guys that the echo in the canyon band yes that works Ok let's do that this is the echo in the canyon band Jacob Dylan and Jake history in us are our singing leads on this one and here we go Play live on stage. café Echo in the canyon is the band the name of the the album celebrating the music of Laurel Canyon in the mid sixty's is the name of the documentary film that I'm here talking to any Slater and sick Dylan about. Another one of the 1st really standout moments for me in watching the film that maybe think like Oh cheese Yeah that is something I take for granted and this is where it started is David Crosby talking about this collective of artists who managed to get poetry on the radio and that maybe before then people's ears and minds weren't as open to hearing the kind of poetic lyrics that came out of that period so maybe Andy tell me a little bit about what the songwriters of that time were doing to change really the course of lyrics in popular music you know I think folk music the folk scene in New York in particular was fully developed in that regard in terms of. Songs that were poetic. And had meaning both socially and politically behind them and in some ways I don't I'm wondering if the electrification of folk music would have really happened in New York because it was so rigid that scene but California represents this this place of light freedom anything is possible and I think the fact that McGoohan was experimenting with a 12 string and I'm Simon interviewing say Roger McGuinn founder of The Byrds was a fair meeting with the transferring for those of us who aren't on Leica you know last name basis with. Good Ok so I don't know that the electrification would have happened in New York and Roger McGuinn from the Byrds. Was experimenting with a 12 string after he saw a hard day's night and you know he's very good at taking a song from one medium and transposing it into another medium and that really becomes the foundation for folk rock and when they have a head it brings people to California so the Mamas and The Papas common the Buffalo Springfield and and other bands come in and that's the beginning of it and yes the 1st time a song of poetic dad and grace becomes a hit. While we're talking about Roger McGuinn Let's listen to a life of formants. The echo in the canyon band of when you guys did it you showed me written by Roger and dad and Gene Clark of the Byrds 2nd 164 this one I think I want to tell a story that right is totally right about you showed me. Where you know that he and Gene liked the same girl and they wrote that song about her I don't quit that in the movie you know if it is in the Arctic remember that very well as he said it as he said it's you the song Roger said it was on the movie. That he and Gene Clark had a crush on the same girl so they wrote it for for this girl and you said who can pick a girl across the. Crosby seemed to get all the girls Ok. Why did you within the movie that's funny. Because you know the singular art of a good narrative always been there Ok the Bluebirds that goes the bloopers route. Ok now let's hear the thought and here we go this is you showed me. a motion of. Self harm I guess on account of how difficult that was do you find this really difficult Yeah I would say I have a newfound respect for directors you know he should also maybe include you know we originally started the idea of making a movie he wasn't suggesting himself as a director we've gone around and pitched the idea of multiple people oh wow who either didn't want to or interested in or were interested but just didn't want to make that specific movie I was like a failed rock critic trying to make you know a film like a rock critic so make sure if it serves you know much for fuel survive if you're on that sorry for people though who who for whatever reason don't have name recognition about who you are you're making it sound like you went from being a failed rock critic to like making this movie that was kind of scary to make in between you've produced some call La Soul albums including Fiona Apple's debut album title in 1960 the the Wallflowers out like your You're I think I just I just feel like I need to correct you on on sort of. Being humble about your career in the music industry but also probably really humbling experience to then feel like you're trying your hand at a new art form for the 1st time I guess for me I mean I just follow my heart my brain follows next if I believe in something or feel something like you know when I met Jacob. I just don't take no for an answer that's echo in the canyon director and he Slater along with executive producer and star Jacob Dillon speaking with Talia Schlanger I'm writing a tourist today we're revisiting their chat about the film echo in the canyon tells the story of the influential bands that came out of Laurel Canyon in the mid sixty's in a moment you'll hear about Jacob's experience closing down a guitar shop with Tom Petty for the film in an interview they filmed before Patti passed away and we'll hear some more live music from the band coming up cafe. a lot about his time in the Byrds and their time at Buffalo Springfield as well there's a moment where David Crosby is talking about sort of being kicked out of the Byrds and he says that it's because he was a jerk. And he uses a different a different word but there's a he goes on to say something about bands which is his theory and I've heard him say this before about c.s. And why and he says lately you know bands get to a point and then after that they start to devolve and then it's like smoke and mirrors and play your hits and he says that to you and then in the film you sort of like to throw up your arms and I want to know what your thought bubble was at that moment when you will because he's right and there's very few bands that do. Continue to be great and have the energy for a lengthy amount of time it does have them for most most groups it doesn't and he's right he's been in a number of groups. I guess you what you're seeing in the film is me acknowledging that he I think he's right because it's something all groups struggle with if they've been together for more than 5678 years you know they begin to wonder if maybe sound is something else that most people just cannot admit to themselves that are probably as time that that thing that really made exciting on point is maybe gone but the last people ever want to meet that is the people that are in the groups so you know he says that with wisdom I think and I think he also kind of expresses what can also be true about groups which is you know rock groups are for kids really you know because once you grow up it's a whole different thing in at it's a trick if you can pull it off and some have some really great you know they do that but I think he's right for the most part for Tom Petty that the 1st shots of this movie are you Jacob talking Tom Petty and is this one of like Would this be one of the last interviews that he did before he passed you know we've heard that and I'm you know I'm not terribly comfortable pushing that at all that forward because I think it's true unfortunately I think it's true yeah but he gave us a day and I think it was a maybe maybe my most favorite day of filming he tell me a little bit about like you guys have a relationship for a long time I think and you inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame Yeah what was that day like with him Yang what was really nice about it is that we got to close down a guitar shop Los Angeles to go shop that we frequent true town in Santa Monica and I think it was really nice for Tom to come down and just close up the doors and it's a great shot that is new equipment all the equipment a lot of energy quirky stuff and I think he had a really great time before filming just walking around looking at the stuff I don't know how often he's able to do that you know in the past. So I thought it was fun is having him be able to do that. But you know he was as much as anybody I think in the film represents a real super fan of that specific music when it was happening and so yes he was Tom Petty and that's that's magnificent and effort and it's own but he's also just like another teenager who he grew up then and he understood that music really really well and he you know he was playing their regular backer throughout the 70s when nobody else was put on the front of his records you know because they came directly from Roger when and where the Beatles so you know he was very important to have a story with something that you'd want. People to know about who he is as a person. I wouldn't. I wouldn't project anything in that department you know I don't know what he would like to be numbered as yeah that's I think you know I would just say that what they want things whereas you know I did get the upper 1st group a number of times he was the girl with generous to me and encouraging and you might think well that's pretty normal from that generation but actually not some of those people are not friendly they're not nice to be around they're competitive in their And you hear No really why because most of them are Hall of Famers and should just be totally encouraging going to generations my friends with somebody that was always somebody who matter what his crimes were it was just rock and roll and it was for everybody and he didn't see his time with me I didn't see a difference between age and generations it was just music if that's what I was getting at you're really not the 1st person at all that I've heard that from about him and his like devotion is just being a mentor in it and a cool human being to other human beings. I think we should go out on a on a Tom Petty tune I'll let you guys pick which one it is affects Ok and I'm gonna say Jacob Dylan and any Slater guys thank you so much for talking to me today it's been a real delight really appreciate it likewise called Thank You Thank you and please pick a Tom Petty song which when should it be. That's a good idea. I want to go on record saying I love every song I ever wrote but at the thoughts of the waiting from our promises which is right when I started to be About the film. You can find it now streaming on Netflix back in a moment with more of the music that came. On World Cafe. 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With Jacob Dylan of the Wallflowers about his documentary echo in the Canyon today but the music scene in Laurel Canyon in the sixty's can keep you right there now with some artists who are making music in a place that moment starting with my favorites Crosby Stills and blue eyes. He Just not for long. In the movie. Oh. Give. A. Good day to. Day. To. Day. before that Jackson Brown's Rock me on the water and Crosby Stills and Nash started off with sweet duty blue eyes we produced this show at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. Thanks for listening to the World Cafe from n.p.r. World Cafe is supported by the candy to fund supporting individual dignity and sustainable communities through investments in transformative leaders and ideas learn more at k e n d e d a fund dot org. 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