Personally and I think you have to see this in the light of a lot coming election they wish to pivot slightly in order to turn these last 3 years of hurling insults at NATO members are putting pressure on them into a result I've got them to spend more money I've got them to take the America 1st agenda seriously and that is very useful in the run up to the election President Trump has also hit out at French plans to tax digital Giants from next month which will chiefly affect the u.s. Tech sector Mr Trump said although he didn't love companies like Facebook and Google if anyone was going to tax them it would be America not France Washington has threatened to slap an additional $2400000000.00 worth of tariffs on French luxury goods in return in retaliation for the tax from Paris his He's Cofield the French finance minister brutal a message it was not the kind of behavior when expected from the u.s. Towards one of its principal allies and he said he would be in contact with the newly installed you committed to ensure that if the u.s. Measures go into effect there is a strong European ripostes France has argued from the start that its digital services tax is not aimed specifically at u.s. Concerns like Amazon or Google even if they are the companies that will end up paying the most financial markets have been jolted after President Trump warn that a trade agreement with China might not happen until after the u.s. Presidential election next November China's currency the yuan fell in response as did European share prices Mr Trump told reporters that he had no deadline for getting a deal done and that in some ways it would be better to wait the World Meteorological Organization says average temperatures since 2010 indicate that this decade will be the hottest on record Environment Correspondent Matt MacGraw reports from Madrid. From Australia to Alaska and in many other parts the summer of 2019 so on usually high levels of heat in the northern hemisphere around 400 new temperature records were set the w.m.o. Says the key here is the long term trend over the past 30 years temperatures have risen at unprecedented rates the cause the w.m.o. Says that without doubt it's down to emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities the report has been presented at the global climate conference here in Madrid to urge negotiators to show great run Bishan in their carbon cutting pledges world news from the b.b.c. Zimbabwe's late President Robert Mugabe hasn't left a will naming who is to benefit from his remaining fortune state media published court documents which reveal that his estate includes $10000000.00 in cash for houses 10 cars a farm and an orchard in Zimbabwe law the estate of a person who dies intestate is distributed between their spouse and children Mr Mugabe is survived by his wife Grace and 4 children reports from bikini Fassel say at least 20 militants and 3 soldiers have been killed in 2 similar tane is attacks near the border with Mali in one incident suspected jihadists seized large quantities a military equipment after storming an Army base in Tony in the north of the country across the border in Mali at least 2 soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb another 9 were injured in a bomb attack in a bikini a facet. The Syrian currency has fallen to $1000.00 Syrian pounds to the dollar on the black market a record low triggered by the financial crisis in neighboring Lebanon Our with as editor Sebastian Asher reports the knock on effect of Lebanon's crisis is being felt in Syria which is long relied on its neighbor to give it access to u.s. Dollars much of Syria's liquid wealth private and public is kept in Lebanon's banks but they have imposed the tighter controls on the withdrawal of dollars and the transfer of hard currency abroad this is prompted panic and a run on the dollar in Syria which is seen the value of the Syrian pound further collapse by some 30 percent this could have devastating consequences for the Syrian economy where inflation is rising far beyond the take home pay of ordinary Syrians police in Scotland have a rested in charge of $3.00 teenage boys in connection with more than 80 hoax bomb and shooting threats against schools it's alleged the threats were telephoned to schools in Scotland England the Netherlands the United States and Canada about a year ago the 3 being held aged between $15.17 b.b.c. News. Hello I'm Reza it Bell welcome to News Hour from the b.b.c. World Service it comes to you live from our studios in central London today NATO at 70 but the alliance is looking shaky with divisions between some of its most high profile members will be hearing from its secretary general shortly that is our top story today and the new treatment derived from an anti cancer drug promise is hope for the millions of women who suffer from endometriosis it stopped becoming cyclical pain it was far enough along in the process where it was just paid all the time been told your fish really have intimate uses it's kind of a lifelong sentence in a way because it is an incurable disease there is nothing they can really do about it well let's see here what can be done about it that's coming up in 20 minutes time to stay with us what's coming up this hour we begin though with a military alliance that has endured for 7 decades the North Atlantic Treaty Organization celebrates its 70th birthday in London there is much to celebrate but also much to take stock of and divisions to heal and mend depending on who you listen to or who you choose to believe the alliance is the strongest in history at c.n.n. Stoltenberg Nato's chief or brain dead that ball Mo is from the French president Emmanuel macro and then there's the Turkish president red chip type one who says he will oppose plans for the defense of the Baltic if NATO doesn't back Turkey over its fight against groups it considers terrorists you'll remember the last time the leader of leaders of NATO countries met President Trump threatened to walk away from the group unless members paid more towards the Bloc calling it obsolete Well tunes are changing and today President Trump criticized his dangerous president Macross as a suggestion that NATO has decision making structure is brain dead. He was speaking at a joint news conference in London with the NATO secretary general Mr Trump described Mr macro's comment as very nasty and very disrespectful nobody needs Larry more than friends and frankly for one of the benefits really the least is the United States would benefit the least we're healthier you're unitedly going against a common for our may or may not be for here tell you that but there are other forces are there also but I think nobody needs it more than friends and that's why when friends makes a statement like they need you know it's a very dangerous statement for them to the. President Trump speaking today along the line is nice as leads do set 2 is at today's summit Turley's you've been speaking to the secretary general. Yes indeed I've done math in this what's called the NATO wind gauges conference here in central London and I have to say Razia when that quote from President Trump came through about very very nasty it went like a bolt of electricity through all the phones of the NATO officials who were waiting here at the conference for un Stoltenberg to arrive from his breakfast with President Trump so when I sat down with that Mr Stoltenberg I said to him What did he make of this comment will mark Paul's use to make sure that. Despite differences are able to stop together over the top of it because both of us realize that it isn't our national security interests which use a phrase like that very nasty it's also need to you know call it on the top of issues one are good it has an impact on oh I don't say I love all the good fighting going to dock on the discussions I will have made here which is a more difficult you know I was so models of these 2 dots. On the I was on the phone but I was the best of luck over the recent big he was very committed to NATO presenter of the special commitment to NATO thousands of units of the diversity that is to sit down me to say who discuss these issues face to face I will say that that meeting that meeting the hopefully will find ways to also solve the issues what we see is bad and I think the biggest challenge and it's you know top of the page is correct because we have huge challenges before we go from this is closest to the in the last 6 is from the left that Mr ration is made to another bag so so we have seen all the impacts to pronounce Yeah but no but it's also doesn't change the fact that I was the Swede before so so but the thing is that while. Differences I don't have the exact to say it is rivets that made us feel. It's really receded and it's really about the role also deal with the differences because we understand to be able to get we are sailors servants and by everyone's describing this birthday party it's muted. Fractious dysfunction all your own sparking in fact while you are the law it's which is the also source of us is history because we have a need to change the story as we continue to change to continue to be more successful licensed. He says he's still on the line for us Lees How would you characterize the mood given the how defensive he sounded and what everyone else has been saying. Well it's his job to defend the NATO alliance but I have to say Razi in talking to people from different NATO members and asking about the impact there's a president might cross comment that the alliance was brain dead they say that far from being a wake up call from the French there's been a push back at a doubling down by countries like Germany who are now more pro NATO than ever and I'm against Bolton were much the start to the day with a sigh of relief that at their breakfast President Trump now says he's a bigger fan of NATO but then of course another day another Twitter so we just can't be sure these Doucette. That joining us live not NATO but policy the beginning of it anyway let's speak to Ian lesser who is vice president of the German Marshall Fund of the United States and he is also here at the NATO gathering and London. N.s.a. Let's go back a little bit and just remind people how much of an achievement it is that this alliance has lost it as long as it happens. Well you know I think sector generals are absolutely right it's really extraordinary that the alliance has lasted both through periods of very striking threat during the Cold War but also to go from some decades where it wasn't so clear what the NATO purpose was and I think some of the some of the Century see today from the very sharp language is ever flexion the fact that people actually do care about where it's going in the future. So do people care about where it's going but one wonders about what the tensions a doing to this alliance not least of President McConnell said but also what President chomps beef has been all along with the other members that they do not pay their way. Well you know the truth is that what President Trump is saying is in way nothing new in multiple American administrations come to Brussels with the same critique the style was very different I mean this is much sharper it's much much more difficult language but but it's not a new story you know it has always wanted needed a more NATO NATO allies to pay more for their defense and I think something is happening on that front but you know what the McCrone comment yet to is something which is a kind of parallel problem for NATO which is that there's a political side of this not just about the fence spending incapability it's also about what allies agree or not we're going to greet on together whether it's on Syria Russia or other things and and that's where I think McCall sees the guy when he's not just him that sees the gap president Edwin has has made his position very clear and also knee threatening to pull out of any defense in the bowl takes but also buying Russian air defense systems clearly putting a strain on the alliance Well absolutely I mean that's not just a technical choice the fact that Turkey opted to buy air defense system from Russia is a deeply political act and it's understood that way and you know I would have to say the relationship between Turkey and its NATO allies is now actually at rock bottom Mr above all with the United States and this is going to be very very hard to stick . And we've got the situation in Syria is not going away anytime soon but when you say it's really hard to fix what are the who are the players that could intervene and be the the the ones who might be able to. Just at least persuade President and Iran or President charm depending on which way it's way tape Well frankly I in my view if it's a conversation to be had between the 2 present themselves they are both inclined to personalise relations in a way that is a little unusual and they literally can get on the phone a great many things out if they want to but it's very good it's very difficult when and I'm not very optimistic about that happening in less a vice president of the German Marshall Fund of the United States thanks for joining us live here at the NATO gathering in London. Well let's stay with President Trump and fronts in particular because on Monday the administration in Washington proposed the imposition of 100 percent tariff so on up to $2400000000.00 worth of French goods including champagne this is in response to France's technology tax a 3 percent tax on tech giants such as Facebook Google and Amazon on their local revenues total sales in France rather than on the profits they make Let's talk some more about this with our economics correspondent Andrew Walker joins me here in the studio how has sponsored acted to what is being proposed by Washington and well in a word badly as you might expect the following is the brutal The man has said that the United States can expect a vigorous response from France if it goes ahead with these measures at this stage the United States is just putting out a list of products to target for consultation but the odds must be that they will go ahead and implement this Mr Mann has also indicated that France is taking this up with the European Union so I think it's on stage in the fairly near future we can expect there to be a discussion among European Union trade ministers who will look at the options for retaliating and the kind of retaliation I have no doubt they will consider is something very similar to what the u.s. Is proposing to do and that is to impose additional terrorists on all American goods is there any indication what did you know did this could not have come out of the blue because when when France announced the technology tax the United States made their position every clear there has been an investigation going on for for some time in the United States which the French knew was going on so yes they are I have no doubt they they are and they're not in the least bit surprised by this conclusion President trampin his officials had made it very clear that they didn't like the the French. Proposed tax on digital services they thought it was unfair in targeting American technology Johns in going in applying to revenue rather than profits and in terms of. Being imposed in countries where the business concerned has no physical presence at all the statement The United States has put out in the last year has makes it very clear that they're very unhappy on all those counts with what the French are planning to are in fact already doing I mean what what how do you think this is going to play out because it does seem as though the United States is now fighting in terms of trade on many different fronts President Trump it is there's no question has got a very very much more muscular approach to trade policy this is not even the only front on which he is fighting with the European Union there is there is other retire your u.s. Retaliates reaction in place over subsidies to the aircraft maker and bass that was authorized by the World Trade Organization the proposals that were seen here are not but he also has of course the ongoing dispute with China and widespread action against imports of still an aluminum so there's no doubt about it President Trump sees trade policy as a way of achieving industrial objectives in the United States which most economists think could be done much better in other ways Andrew Walker thanks very much. Coming up later in today's program 2 weeks off to going missing a man has walked out of the harsh Australian desert but one of his friends remains lost. The 100 k's from many ways only in those kinds of places there's not a lot of people living out there even our fathers are having a hard time. Stay with us for that story the b.b.c. News headlines this hour the NATO secretary general says the alliance's 70th anniversary summit has got off to the best possible start but it's been marked by rousing and insults between member states the European Commission has told the Maltese government not to interfere in the investigation into the murder of a prominent journalist and scientists say the current decade is on course to become the hottest ever recorded. This is news ally from the b.b.c. In London. An American woman who says she was brought to Britain age 17 to have sex with Prince Andrew is urging the British public to stand beside her the genius Jeffrey has told b.b.c. Panorama she was trafficked for sex with the prince by the wealthy sex offender Geoffrey Epstein Prince Andrew says he can absolutely and categorically say it never happened the B.B.C.'s Darren the reports Virginia due for a formerly Virginia Roberts has already made allegations that have created a crisis for the royal family in her 1st interview for British television she describes of being trafficked to London by Jeffrey Epstein on a private jet in 2001 and then being introduced to Prince Andrew She says the introduction was made by Epstein and his then girlfriend the socialite Calais marks well at her London home she says the later went to trump and my club where generations of royals have let their hair down Prince Andrew says he has no recollection of what she describes but she says she remembers him he asked me to dance. He is the most hideous dance for I've ever seen in my life I mean it was horrible and this guy was sweating all over me like his sweat was like it was raining basically everywhere is like. Crossed out from that but I knew I had to keep him happy because that's what Geoffrey would expect from me she says that when they left the club delay Mox well instructed her to have sex with Prince Andrew later that evening she says she did as she was told. In an interview with the b.b.c. 2 weeks ago the Prince said he didn't recall meeting her he said he had a medical condition that meant he did not sweat on the claim he had sex with her he said he can absolutely and categorically say it never happened I asked about a photo of him with his arm around virginity Friday the Prince said he didn't recall it being taken and questioned whether it was his hand in the picture but in her b.b.c. Interview which was reported before Prince Andras virginity for a says the prince cannot be telling the truth people on the inside are going to keep coming up with these ridiculous excuses like his arm was a long. Dr I mean I'm calling b.s. On this because that's what it is he knows what happened I know what happened and there's only one of us telling the truth and I know that's me Buckingham Palace says the Duke of York emphatically denies having any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Jew Frey and that any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation but for Jenna Jew Frey says she is now calling on the British public to support or I implore the people in the. To stand beside me to help me fight this fight. This is not some sort of story this is a story of that this is a story of abuse and this is a story of. The sex life judgment and on a state of a senior member of the royal family is under intense scrutiny Prince Andrew has already been forced to stand down from public life but the questions about his conduct won't go away. B.B.C.'s Dara MacIntyre reporting. Now endometriosis is a serious condition which affects millions of women it occurs when tissue similar to that which lines the uterus the enemy trim grows outside the uterus causing chronic pelvic pain new research shows that both the pain and the condition itself could potentially be alleviated with a drug that's previously been investigated as a cancer treatment that's here from Rebecca Skinner who's a university student in Scotland who has this condition when I was 22 I have a very distinct memory of being served in the field position on Christmas Day and with period pains my ovaries felt like they were trying to leave my body they were soft saw him fall and just couldn't walk concentrates or if just sweating with pain and on a day that's meant to be really jolly and you know your family and I was just in agony I thought it's just really cannot be right and looking out that's over 10 years and I definitely suffered for a lot of that time once I actually started seeing how things happened surprisingly quickly but only because my health to very steep decline and things quickly deteriorated and I was in any many times I became a very regular person in my g.p. Practice it stopped becoming cyclical pain it was far enough along in the process where it was just paid all the time and we did not know why I just got shot from pillar to post back words and forwards between specialities to one point where I was and I mean with a gynecologist and they said Right we're not sure if your guy any or your gastro problems so what we're going to do is piece to medically induced menopause an attempt. State of early menopause and then if your symptoms go away or get better at heart then you're a county problem and if they don't your gastro problem and I was 23 been told you facially have endometriosis is kind of a life long sentence anyway because it is an incurable disease there is nothing they can really do about it it's barely management options Rebecca skin our joining on the line now is Professor Andrew hone the researcher who led this study He's from the Center for Reproductive Health at the University of Edinburgh Welcome to the program I said that this condition affects millions of women do we know how many I mean how common is it so within the u.k. It's estimated to affect 1500000 women within the world their estimates are as high as 176000000 women so it's as common as a condition like diabetes in women and what have you discovered in your research that that might be able to help women like Rebecca Skinner So we've we've shown that it's possible to repurpose a drug that's been previously investigated for the treatment of cancer called Dyke harassed could be a potential new normal treatment friend Dimitrios as we 1st showed. Taken from the pelvic walls women with and mutual support from metabolism compared to women without the disease they produce higher amounts of law which is very similar to cancer cells with ensured that if we treated the cells with like Who are we could return them to normal metabolic behavior and reduce the production. And then in a most small and mature says that we developed we should if we treated mice with any mutual says we were able to reduce the production of Lottie's in the cells but also significantly reduce the size of the end may choose this lesion so this has led us to take this into an early phase exploratory clinical trial in women and in what and how big is that trial. So the trial in Italy has just a small trial of 30 women who are trying to explore whether this treatment has a similar impact to what we saw in the nights in the porch. And then if we do see a significant move that Sightings a much bigger multicenter trial cross the given the findings that you've already pored over and studied Do you sense that this could potentially lead to a kill. I think it's very difficult to say we didn't find a cure for him to choose this but I think what we demonstrated this that we could find an alternative treatment that's not our hormonal treatment that maybe has let side effects an important way isn't something that's contraceptive because of course this is a condition it's young women who want to. Yeah of course and that was that was so tragic you could hear in Rebecca's skin his voice you know having to be pushed into early menopause at the age of 23 that could stop salute me I think the current medical treatment approach is that we have available all impulse stopping the ovaries producing Easterton so they all have a range of different side effects the back stories highlight one of the side effects Professor Andrew Horne from the Center for Reproductive Health at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland thanks for joining us here live on the. Distribution of the b.b.c. News Hour in the us a supported by participant and Focus Features with dark waters story Mark Ruffalo and Hannah Hathaway based on true events about mysterious deaths in a small town and the man who risked his life to expose the truth in select theaters November 22nd and see 3 ai the software suite for digital transformation using artificial intelligence on Io t. The Solve previously ensemble business problems more and more at c 3. Coming up on News Hour in the next 30 minutes the plight of the real hinge of children denied education in the world's largest refugee camp also we'll hear from the Danish inventor billed as the father of wind power and what does it take to survive in the harsh environment of the Australian outback Well coming up after a summary of the latest world news. B.b.c. News with Julie Candler President Trump has hit out at his French counterpart Emmanuel micro her recently suggesting that NATO was brain dead and lacking a coordinated approach to strategic decision making NATO leaders are meeting near London to mark the alliance's 70th anniversary but in a further sign of deep divisions Turkey says it will oppose Nato's plan for the defense of the Baltic if it doesn't back Ankara over its fight against groups it considers terrorists a vice president of the European Commission voted you're over has warned Multan that the investigation into the murder of the journalist Daphne Koller want to go has to be brought to conclusion without any political interference separately the head of a European parliamentary delegation visiting Malta has said the trust between the e.u. And the Maltese government has been very seriously damaged. The World Meteorological Organization says average temperatures since 2010 indicate that this decade will be the hottest on record global temperatures this year were $1.00 degrees Celsius above the pre-industrial average putting 2019 in line to be among the 3 warmest years ever recorded so it's a learned has some of the Sri Lankan ambassador over the alleged abduction of a Swiss embassy employee in the Sri Lankan capital an official statement said Byrne demanded to know on what basis Colombo was questioning the truth of the woman's allegation the unnamed employee said she was bundled into a car by 5 people blindfolded and quizzed for 2 hours on wide Switzerland had given a visa to a Sri Lankan police officer who just fled the island police in Scotland have arrested and charged 3 teenage boys in connection with more than 80 hoax bomb and shooting threats against schools it's alleged the threats were telephoned to schools in Scotland England the Netherlands the United States and Canada about a year ago b.b.c. News. Coming up the row hinge of children in the world's biggest refugee camp in Bangladesh being denied education but 1st the cost of electricity generated by offshore wind turbines has dropped by a 3rd in recent years they getting ever bigger and cheaper to run and often no longer require a subsidy from governments one Danish inventor Henrik steeds Dale has been described as the father of wind power the B.B.C.'s Frank Cole has been to meet him as archives I feel to you know. This is. This is a warm Danish grazing between engineers they're working on a new invention led by Henrik stays still a man often referred to as one of the founding fathers of the modern wind industry it all began when I was a very young man and got interested in the proper we had in Denmark with our energy supply we have very few natural resources and Mark one natural resource we do have is wind and a lot of it hindered created his 1st win turbine at the age of 16 in 991 he opened the world's 1st offshore wind farm and he's wind turbine design the title of the Danish concept and that concept has shaped the wind industry for what it is today for for the biggest blades Henrik has designed a between 81 and 94 made his long the blades a one seamless pace of fiberglass with no joints. So we're standing here in one of the nice work from. Denmark and a man like factory in what we're watching men and women literally moving out of the fiberglass by hand on this icy water maze of life which will eventually be here for an offshore wind farm and it is just incredible. The amount of detail that going in literally by. One wind turbine bill. Aids of growing in size the cost a shrinking according to a new study by the Paris based International Energy Agency the overall cost a city full of fervor 60 percent by $24.00. Years we have really a transition in. Because we have come from a situation where people could reasonably ask we like it but how can we afford it to one where they now have to ask how can we afford not to but there are still challenges to overcome around the world the untapped potential of offshore wind is vast especially when you move further from shore into deeper waters the answer is floating wind turbines according to the International Energy Agency floating turbines could unlock enough potential to meet the world's total electricity demand 11 times over by $24.00. I want to communicate always that it's not hopeless sometimes you hear people say yeah but it's all lost it's all gone we have to get out there and I say definitely not look at what we have done Henrik is optimistic he has watched the industry develop from the Impossible to the possible to a future reaching even greater heights. And that was Freya Cole reporting. You're listening to News Hour from the b.b.c. . Now we covered the story extensively back in 2017 the crackdown by min miles army on the row hinge of people which followed attacks by insurgents the impact of the crackdown was brutal and resulted in hundreds of thousands of Ranger fleeing more than 730000 ended up in refugee camps in neighboring Bangladesh and that they still languish unwilling and too frightened to return where they are denied full citizenship a report published by Human Rights Watch says some 400000 school age children are being denied meaningful education I've been speaking to Letitia Vand as someone who is a former Dutch ambassador to me in ma and she's a former member of the right kind advisory commission headed by the late u.n. Secretary General Kofi Annan she is in Bangkok it's clear that education particularly for children who are deprived and who are in a refugee situation or away from home is very very important for them to help them to structure their lives fill their days in a meaningful way but also help to prepare them for the future not a problem is that Bangladesh has not allowed really any form of structured learning formal education that is a credit if you go away you know elsewhere whatever you've achieved exams you've done count you can take that education which you were ever you go in text all there have at the moment is a number of learning centers not much learning going on there there are about 400000 young people you know scams who really should be in formal education centers and not too sure what someone's got to read this morning also as sort of a playgroup the children get to play with stories and sing songs and be together but it's not really any particular form of learning that is. That is deeply worrying because these children had already been denied formal education in Myanmar itself in most cases and now they have been in Bangladesh for almost 2 years and for months the longer they do not have access to proper education the more hopeless the prospects for the future become Why is the government placing these restrictions on a structured formal education Well let me emphasize 1st of all that the world owes Bangladesh a debt if longer that had not allowed the Rohingya on its territory a lot more people would have died but Bangladesh seems to be afraid that providing structured education formal education might actually be a pull factor and draw more ruing of refugees into Bangladesh there is nothing that substantiates that the other thing is that Bangladesh keep saying oh but are only here for one or 2 years and not staying for 20 years so just a few years without formal education is not that negative because it's not as many people in Bangladesh. That there are when your refugees want to stay home edition or they say very clearly when you ask them we are from Myanmar that we want to go back once the conditions are right says Sam and there is also there is also this aspect of the un and aid agencies actively being prevented from providing accredited education it's not just that the Bangladeshis are failing to do it themselves they're actively stopping outside agencies from from implemented that's true over the last couple of months there have been a couple of hopeful signals that things might change but it's not going fast enough and you know it is not as if the world is looking to get Bangladesh to pay for this formal education itself you know the international community international donors the u.n. Agencies everyone will be pitching in in order to pay for the costs of these formal education because they realize that it's becoming more and more urgent. How would you characterize then the impact on the hundreds of thousands of refugees children in the context that you have outlined this denial of education how do you count tries the entire event it's not only the impact on children it's parents who are desperate to give their children a chance of having a formal education in the present situation where other measures have also been to you know free internet access that they used to have is more or less blocked the camps are now being prepared for fencing with barbed wire they're losing hope and particularly if children were able to have this kind of formal education that hope might be restored because they are the future and there's parents all over the world like to see their kids come home at the end of school day and teach of happy and having learned and being motivated as a result and all that is missing. I wonder if a report like this is the kind of thing that will persuade the authorities to do things differently because there is a danger isn't lead that you shame a country having said we owed the government of Bangladesh a debt because they've taken close to 800000 refugees but then you shame them into not looking after the interests or the long term interests of this refugee population it could backfire couldn't it I would see it more as a strong encouragement because now we have the facts we have solid research that all these findings and recommendations are based on I considered it not heard from and certainly too little for all those who want cysts which education programs to go back to the government to said no we have to scare me. And. I was Leticia Van Dam ass I'm a former Dutch ambassador to Minn Marne member of the Rakhine advisory commission headed by the late un Secretary-General Kofi Annan we have tried for much of the morning to get a response from the government in Bangladesh without any luck so far. A new European Commission has taken office this weekend a new leader the former German defense minister Vander Lyon and tomorrow sees it gather for its 1st cabinet meeting there were a few procedural bumps in the on the road along the way and of course the commission has an ongoing dispute with London over whether or not the u.k. Should be appointing a commissioner as it heads for the door marked Breck's it but perhaps the most interesting appointment is to a new created job commissioner for promoting the European why of life the B.B.C.'s Kevin Connolly has been reflecting on what that means. The European Union has a flag here and. It has an anthem but also it seems a nagging fear that not everyone knows what it means to be European. Honorable members. This is a very special moment for me it is an emotional moment enter the man charged with changing all that the new e.u. Commissioner with responsibility for promoting the European way of life Margarita skewness I am nothing if not for Europe but what is the European life the e.u. Is promoting and to whom is it being promoted people presumably not potential migrants Mr Skinner's at confirmation hearings was keen to stress that there is a vision in there somewhere being European means peace freedom equality democracy and respect for human dignity Others though are skeptical none more so than the distinguished Polish writer and historian and j. Novak who questions why the e.u. Sees any role for itself in questions of identity there is always the danger of creating an identity in a manner top down so to speak beginning with an institution could imagine that England or Poland or France would institutionalize something Reich Ministry for promoting French identity or English identity it has developed through centuries in a natural way but do ordinary people really feel they need help from the e.u. To bolster their sense of European. We took to the streets in Warsaw and in Maastricht to talk identity with voters I feel like more polish than European my family's past has it and. We try to maintain our tradition and everything I think that the big problem now is for free refugees and them in general so I guess I have Frank feel that I live in Poland I feel safe here and I know there won't be any trouble connected with that we are afraid of a European Union especially like all their people because we think that it's took for us but then give us much being Eastern Europeans inferior at least a more nationalistic than Westerners so would things be different in one strict the European bailout for me is. 3 bore us going in for a once one back country think for me is Europe one church my way of living several people 7 countries different from each of even in this place some region in this place is different as another one there is no not the idea of Europe as one that is nonsense it's so much simpler in America where even in divided times everyone at least agrees that there is an American dream remember how effortlessly Ronald Reagan used to invoke it we cannot. And will not turn back we will finish our job. How can we do less well America which. Perhaps America's period of global ascendancy will turn out to be transience essentially a phenomenon of the 20th century. The French thinker and sometime presidential advisor Jack tally says Europe will prove more than America as an idea because it's about something more than just getting rich I would say that the European dream is more collective dream that the American dream which is juxtaposition of a right to become wealthy what is specific to Europe is the balance between short term and longer we want to have in Europe long term democracy I believe that you the u.s. Is. On the verge of collapse in term of identity term of unity in term of strength compared to oversupply would therefore I wouldn't I wouldn't bet the 21st century would be a century where the so called American way of life which survives so while we're waiting for the e.u. To get its promotional materials ready to boost the European way of life is there anything that truly unites the continent in the meantime and you never did come up with one example if you go to I would say individual choices of people from one on one side Portugal as you mentioned and let's say a lot or a stone you're probably the only thing that can unite most of them would be Champions League would be the priests here am glad they would perhaps be a little depressing it will but you know it's as Europeans really is only the continent's premier football tournament let's not forget that a couple of millennia of shared experiences to. But if it's true that football is for Navas strongest element in a shared identity then maybe that maybe shows could be used new commissioner for identity will have his work cut out when he gets going. Kevin Connolly reporting tell us what you think. Is the programs to handle at his mine if you want to speak to me to write to you listening to the b.b.c. 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We have to respect the laws of the full burden we share the force got to be. And I do believe that in such certain terms we can be. What we have to be. One of the headline is the European Commission has told the Maltese government not to interfere in the investigation into the murder of a prominent journalist. This is Resig life from the b.b.c. In London now the Australian outback is a challenging place about 2 weeks ago 3 friends went missing in the country's vast an inhospitable interior after their vehicle got stuck in a riverbed 2 of them a man and a woman have been rescued separately leaving one woman still lost in the outback food trend had been missing for 14 days when a local farmer found him on his property late yesterday he's managed to survive some of the harshest conditions on the planet and it lends some hope that the last member of the group could still be found alive Kai fur no is and a stray an outback survival expert and author I asked him 1st of all social conditions the people there would be facing they're going to be encountering extreme heat during the day. 40 sort of degree Celsius and then us. And that region gets about 11 inches of rainfall. So very dry very hot during the day and quite chilly at night and what about the to rain what are we talking about in terms of how it looks and and how isolated a person is likely to feel you can be 100 ks from many ways really kind of places there's not a lot of people living out there even. The having a hard time so are there's not a lot of farming a lot of population and and these cases when they're going off road crit and away from anywhere literally so presumably the isolating and barren nature of it would mean that there's nothing really that could aid someone stranded or lost in terms of food how would somebody survive that well the fortunate thing is you can last up to 3 weeks without food so it really wouldn't be your priority in these kind of situations your priority or to the rule of thumb is looking at 3. Dies without water in those conditions you're looking at less than a die if you have my order to survive so the man the wolves found stumbled across Oh a water tank how likely is that but other people well the family said that there is was no other water tight within 20 so it was an absolute miracle that that man found that water tank and our straying from having trouble with the was running dry so we have like this well of water under the ground but that's running dry so even some of the boys in water tanks are empty these days on a lot of those middle of a stray a fun team found a water tank in the fact that it even had water in it was something close to America for them and the search is still on to find the final member of this group if you are in a group what is the kind of advice that you would give people the very 1st kind of advice if you're adventuring anywhere into the outback especially in a straight areas to let people know where you're going in an estimated time that you expect to be back these people went out for an afternoon drive and friends but wasn't Rice before so already we're getting into serious survival numbers especially as far as Ward is concerned this bit of advice is to let someone noir way you going and when to right. And then stay together and stay with your vehicle if at all possible these people made a lot of really good decisions they did stay with have a clinician late but when it became obvious the situation was going to to rewrite staying with the vehicle they left together and found a water source. Kif Erna an Australian outback survival expert and author. Now if you're a regular listener to news hour you'll remember our coverage of the protests in Iran prompted by a hike in fuel prices the Internet was shut down which made getting information out very difficult but a picture was emerging of a crackdown on protesters with many people being killed all now Iranian state television has acknowledged security forces did kill people the authorities have described as rioters in several cities let's speak to foreigners for see he who is a journalist covering Iran for the New York Times and let's start by getting you to just explain what they've actually said and how many people they are acknowledging have been killed. Iranian government hasn't put out official numbers that are accurate or reflect the level of lethal violence against the protestors they're actually not really giving a tally rights organizations Amnesty International is latest tallies 208 people killed but activists on the ground and local media or reporters and also Persian media websites the news websites they were adding up all the names that were getting put the number somewhere between 180 to 450 and as you said the scope of the disaster and horror is unfolding as Internet is restored and Iranians are able to tell the story of what happened when you talk about the kinds of numbers that the human rights organizations all pushing out it does get at least force us to think about the nature of these demonstrations because they started out as a response to the hike in fuel prices but morphed very quickly into a general criticism and in fact a desire to bring the regime down exactly these protests I see them as an eruption of years and years of pent up anger and frustration at the Islamic Republic's rule and they were sparked by a steep and sudden announcement of the gas prices but very quickly they targeted the regime of the Islamic Republic and its leaders and they were mostly young young men young people in working class neighborhoods and low income areas or towns suggesting that the Iranian government was facing an opp rising from the population that has always traditionally been its power base and this is very challenging for them the protests were very different in nature this time than previous protests we've seen they were very deadly both sides display the level of violence we've never seen the protesters were attacking banks and burning down. Government buildings and ransacking shops and think burning super gas stations and just things we've never seen before and on the government's side also the willingness to just open fire on on armed civilians and turn the Internet off and do it in the dark has been very chilling and everybody I talked to in Iran says that they are shocked both at the fact that they so easily unplugged them from the world and the fact that they killed hundreds of people in a matter of 34 days because the protests were really crushed very quickly is it possible just very briefly to assume that the protests have been quelled entirely everywhere. We don't know because Internet is not restored in some of the provinces along Iran's border that have ethnic minorities and are traditionally there's a lot of unrest we think that there's sporadic clashes here and there but generally yes we can we can safely say that they crushed the widespread nationwide protest so nice to see journalists covering Iran for the New York Times joining us live from the United States thanks for being here with us on News and thanks to all of you very much your company this past hour and I will be back again tomorrow I hope you'll join me then. This is the news and information service of southern Oregon University's Jefferson Public Radio 12 30 am k s j k talent at 9 30 am k e g I Grants Pass also heard in the rock valley that one of $2.00 f.m. News of the region the nation and the world. 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I'm Joshua Johnson today on one a immigration and education this nation is no stranger to college scams but this is unique and intentional scheme designed to catch immigration violators a school in Michigan turned out not to be a university at all but a front for a homeland security operation was it a justifiable anti-fraud efforts or entrapment we'll explore this case ahead and get a clearer sense of just how hard it can be for international students to succeed in the u.s. If you can relate to that we'd love to hear from you comment on our Facebook page or tweet us at one egg. Live from n.p.r. News in Washington I'm Corba Coleman President Trump is meeting French President Emanuel macron in London both are there for a summit of NATO leaders there meeting comes as the Trump administration has threatened to impose billions of dollars in new tariffs on French imports this would be in retaliation for French taxes on digital services provided by u.s. 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