As we explore the Word of God together if you have a Bible question you can call the toll free number and we'll do our best to get to it in our time we still have a couple of lines open that number one more time is 800 God says that's 804637297 my name is Doug Batchelor. Listening friends pass a Doug let's begin with the word a prayer your father once again as we open this program we ask for you to be with us we ask for wisdom as we search the pages of scripture Francis be with those who are listening pray that you place each person asking Jesus name a man and then pass that you open the program by talking about a rare and very precious treasure that had been lost for you know a certain period of time and then discovered. What were you referring to when you spoke about a rare treasure that had been lost and then found in the Bible or we read about it in the Bible you know there's an interesting story I think most everybody knows that Moses not only receive the 10 commandments from the Lord He authored the 1st 5 books of the Bible and especially the book Deuteronomy was called the law or the repeating of the law there was actually a period of time it may have been a couple of 100 years when the people of God had lost track of their national document really the the Torah the books of Moses was an outline of their national document and they still had even hundreds of years after Moses had died they still had the original copy in the temple but it got somehow mixed up in a room full of junk in the temple this incredible document a book written by the hand of Moses it's almost inconceivable that it would get misplaced but it does happen as we found out here with the story of this Declaration of Independence but you can read about this in 2nd Chronicles $34.00 verse $14.15 it says after they had cleaned out the Temple that when they brought the money out that was brought into the house of the Lord Hilkiah the priest found the book of the law of the Lord given by Moses and Hilkiah answered and said this chief in the scribe I found the book of the law in the house of the Lord now you would think why would you be surprised to find a Bible in the church but this of course was the temple the main temple that was built by Solomon and they had evidently transferred this to another room in the coming and going of different kings and as they re decorated within the temple the actual word of God got misplaced and it makes me think Pastor Ross about I wonder how many families have a Bible somewhere on the shelf that is it's a book written by God but they don't realize what they've got like this man in Tennessee there he had something worth half a $1000000.00 or nearly half a $1000000.00 and just hanging in the garage never even read it dinner know what it was and finally someone. 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In South Africa he doesn't know all the initials for the 50 states yet I'm looking at doing my inventing and I'm thinking north the good now camp in North Dakota I want to use that. That's Ok my question and revelation that we have a 12 tribes of Israel. Dan is not there and NASA is there instead you're very perceptive but I think you're talking about Revelation Chapter 7 The Revelation Revelation Chapter 7 where talks about 144000 in a list the 12 Tribes 2 tribes are left out you got the tribe of Dan in the tribe of Ephraim that's a very observant because this is the only place in the Bible where the list of tribes appears the way that it appears you know usually begins with Reuben and includes Dan It leaves out Joseph instead it's gotten ass and he from here it lists Joseph as a tribe and it lists them and NASA as a tribe but it leaves out Dan and it leaves out the from 1st of all I don't want to confuse everyone but I've got to give you a little background on the 12 tribes there were actually 12 sons of Jacob including Joseph because Joseph had been exiled for so many years from the family Jacob said I am going to count your 2 sons Ephraim and Manasseh as tribes in your place but when you take one tribe in kind of split it into 2 it takes 12 and turns it into 13 so there were 13 tribes but when they went through the wilderness God said Look Levi is going to be the priest for the whole nation the Levites will be the priest for everybody so that dropped the number back down to 12 that got an inheritance in the promised land and you know even if the Last Supper there were 13 in the room there were the 12 Apostles and Jesus who was the high priest in Revelation you still have 12 but it's left Joseph in along with his son the Nass and it left out Ephraim and Dan and then the word then means judging of the people the 144000 are beyond judgement because you know when they're caught up and when they are sealed their pass judgement and Ephraim if you read in the Old Testament it says Ephraim was joined to idolatry and so God left you from alone. 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A very nice day is unlawful to take up your bed on the Sabbath day so I'm just going what acceptable we can do on this time well that's a good question 1st of all keep in mind when you read the New Testament one of the constant battles of Jesus was separating the man made laws of the fairest seas from the real law of God They had a number of traditions that they were imposing on people that were really absurd that were nowhere in the Bible or commanded by God One example would be that they actually said if you're walking through the field on the Sabbath and you pluck an apple or you pick a piece of grain out of the field try to blow or you know rub in your hands eat it and blow away the chaff that was called harvesting Now this man who walked away with his bed in John Chapter 5 a bed in Bible times was not a great big old posture Peter mattress it was they used to have just a you know a roll yeah it was a little matter a blanket that they would roll out lay on and so it really was like curing a sleeping bag or or less you'll find in the Bible that God told him 1st of all to abstain from their regular labor Jesus was a carpenter you never find. In the carpenter shop on Sabbath but he did heal people he did teach people he did feed people and cry said it's better to do good on the sabbath than evil and so there's nothing wrong if there's somebody sick and they need healing will by all means heal animals if you're a farmer you've got a military or cows in your goats 7 days a week you can't tell them Look we're going to take 48 hours off for milking you and it's painful for them and their milk dries up so you know a lot of it just practical common sense getting all of the work out of the way that can be done so that you have basically quality time with God and you know they're. Going to pasteurize have thought you know just in reference to that experience of the man at the pool of affairs there with a man was he probably didn't have a whole lot of positions he had been there for a long time and it wouldn't have made same for him to stay there the whole Sabbath till the sunset to pick up a map and go it was just common sense that's probably all he really had Geez roll up your map and go there's no need for you stay any longer you healed Yeah and then the Farriss tried to make a big deal out of it like he was bearing the burden but. That was an exaggeration of what the law was talking about it would. Have been yeah the the Farriss had developed as hundreds of man made laws about the Sabbath that really didn't have any basis in the Bible they actually had a distance that you could walk on the Sabbath where they'd roll out a piece of string like a ball of yarn and they'd say you can walk the length of this yarn and not any further and I mean and he kind of silly it was Suppose you get within 3 feet of where your dinner invitation was you have to turn back because so you know Jesus wants us to be practical one of the law I heard about was Ferris he said you know you can't bear a burden but if you carry a handkerchief it's a burden but if you sow your handkerchief to the sleeve of your clothes you can blow your nose and that's Ok because it's actually part of your clothes then so you know that's when you get really hyper legal istic and it's a principle of you're not to do any secular work your regular work and it's a day of rest. Everything out of the way you can get out of the way to worship and serve God you know we have a study guide on the subject of the Sabbath school the last day of history and Hecht if you like to call our resource line we'll be happy to send that to you anyone who's listening 180-835-6747 the talks about the Sabbath the last day of history Sally is calling from Georgia Atlanta welcome to the program I thank you thank you your question I have a question on Matthew 532 where they're speaking. Divorce and remarriage and where Christ said that saving for the cause of fornication and. You know that we should put away he put away his wife even for the hard to warrant patient cries of her to commit adultery and how it relates to the trouble period that directly when he like speaking directly to the Jewish people at the time when they had that cross. Because nowhere else. There is no exception and without you mean you think there should be no exception not even for violating the marriage vows right well the fact that Jesus said this would would indicate that a person has the right to get a divorce if if a man is unfaithful in his vows to his wife or if a wife is unfaithful in her vows to her husband they don't have to get divorced as pastors we would counsel them to do everything they can to redeem the relationship but it does provide the one caveat that Jesus offers that you know if a person is for seeking their their covenant they broke in the covenant and some evidence of this would be probably the way God deals with his church the Lord looks upon his church as his bride but many times she plays the harlot and he's very faithful and he goes after her because he loves her and. Willing to forgive but ultimately he says when it comes to eat from Ephraim is joined to her idols let him go and so that was 10 tribes of Israel there are there's a limit to even God's patience and you know he continually talks about his church running after other lovers so it's not only a New Testament teaching of Jesus it's an Old Testament teaching that you know if a person persists in violating the vows then the cover and it is can be revoked but that doesn't mean because there's an argument between the husband and wife or you know one of them runs up the credit card debt or and if the the only reason that Jesus gives is fornication meaning I was somewhere else just fine interesting guy it's just mentioned in that one line usually God when He has a message he thinks to reveal the same thing in several different places throughout the Bible where you also you know you do have it not only in Matthew 5 you got in Matthew 19 bit but again it's in Matthew I don't find in any of the other books of the Bible anywhere where you well there actually if you read in the Old Testament in Genesis God instructing this is Genesis 2114 God told Abraham to put away Hagar because he had one wife too many and that would of course be another reason for. Supposed to have one wife where we're seeing a lot the news about that lately but I'm not an advocate for divorce I just need to tell you what the Bible says Right yeah it is just kind of some confusion where we are you know like he speaks of fornication like and fornication of course is between unmarried people and adultery is between married people and he when he speaks in his word about the difference and he testified one occasion in the adultery talks of them as 2 separate things but then in Matthew he refers to fornication being an excuse for divorce that's when I say that when I've recently studied about the Jewish patrol the period their patrols will pretty much was they may. They were considered as though they were married so that's why you know Stevie very cute just to address the word fornication there if you look at the original Greek at all so he's including adultery so it's not limited to just fornication it's definitely broad and includes adultery out that's true so it's both a person married or unmarried in any illicit intimacy is fornication whether you're married or not I appreciate that sell I hope that helps a little when I go back to Cindy calling from Miami Florida City you there. Can you hear a city yeah. I'm thankful I love you and your question yes my question is well. Then God give. Or a chance when thinking you know. A time when we can write more of Calgary for. Well Satan probably had you know there's just the minimal information in the Bible about the rebellion of Lucifer but there is as you piece things together adequate information a by the way and you can bear witness and we didn't ask you to call in with this question but amazing facts just finished a d.v.d. Called Cosmic conflict that talks about the rebellion of Lucifer and the war in heaven that's mentioned in Revelation Chapter 12 where he was cast out and it explains why is there sin and why is her evil in the world called Cosmic conflict and so if people go to the amazing facts website I think it's still popping up where they see that just you can do a search and met if it does go to the cosmic conflict dot org website or cosmic conflict dot com either one you can see the trailer but to answer your question now that I got that little commercial in there on the lucifers rebellion Lucifer probably had gone past his his probation of repentance before our world was created probably there was a time before he was cast out of him and when God you know would have forgiven him but he he went too far it broke out into a war and I I'm assuming but by the time this war that you find Revelation 12 between satan in the fallen angels and Christ and His angels before by the time that war transpired Lucifer had gone past the point of repentance committed the unpardonable sin you know especially if you look at the experience of Jesus there in the garden of the Sami Satan he's doing the very best that he can to Ross and to persecute and put to death Jesus. That's a manifestation of the hatred that he had in his heart there was no desire whatsoever to yeah show respect or repaint or and you look at what he's done through history even on to that point where I mean he's out in all the baby boys thrown to the models in the Nile I mean he was totally cold blooded unrepentant and Satan hope nobody out there is feeling sorry for Lucifer because he's he's gone. Past the point of repentance thanks for your question by the way we do have a study guide Cindy that talks about did God make a devil and he goes into and it's free will send you one it will go into more detail on this subject the number 180-835-6747 the freeroll resources a study guide did God create the devil we have to send it out and it is calling from Council Rock Washington welcome to the program I am I have a question I was reading in 1st kings and I noticed a parallel but I didn't know the significance 1st I want to know the 1st thing fixed it always says I always read 480 years after exile children Israel left Egypt Solomon started the temple and I always wondered why did they say that but it occurred to me 487 years after the children of Israel left Egypt the King of Peace the son of David offered an intercessory prayer effect for 5 and a sacrificial system was changed from the tabernacle to the temple then I thought to Daniel 9 The children of Israel leave Babylon or me to Persia return to the Promised Land 487 years later now you're saying 487 in the 1st kings or 2nd Kings it says 480 he started it but he finished 7 years later is in construction correct so 400 now they leave Persia or Babylonian go to the Promised Land 487 years later the son of David the prince of peace offers an intercessory prayer offers a sacrifice and the sacrificial system and from the temple and then continued in heaven and the parallel same striking but I don't know the significance of it while you know I you got me curious now because I like study numbers in the Bible. And I am not sure what the significance of that would be but. That's that's interesting I only thought maybe some people think they're much higher the prince and Daniel in mind it's maybe anti-Christ and I thought maybe a man with the type of sack you know that could kind of show well let me give you one more thought is God is perfect with his numbers 40 is a big number for the Lord you agree with that 40 years you find out any times in 12 is another big number 480 is 40 times 12. Or 12 and 40 when you see the way and so you know this is like a perfect number for God The temple is begun I'm talking about the 480 now the 10 was begun. 12 times 40 years after they came out of Egypt. So mad affect you look at the history in the book of Judges and a lot of their history is divided into twenty's and forty's. Different judges reign 20 years they had peace 80 years apiece 40 years it just seems like these generation numbers are very precise divisions of 40 and so while you were talking I just typed in 12 I divided the 40 by 12 because I thought I had remembered that that was an interesting comparison they appreciate that and that you would probably enjoy the study we've got on the numbers in the Bible and I'm going to look more into what she was saying. If you go to prophecy code. Prophecy code dot com We've got a special study that deals with Bible numbers and what they're significances and I'm going to do a little more homework on that 47 and find I mean I just think yeah absolutely thank you for your call I'm actually is Caroline calling from Tennessee Caroline Welcome to the program Caroline you're on the air yes I've got a question about the Book of Job Chapter 12. And verse 7 and 8 and we should talk to the animals or let's speak to you I'm trying to figure out how to interpret that. Well job is basically saying that if we doubt the reality of God Just look at nature look at the animals and you can see from looking at the birds and the different creatures and it says they'll teach you even these animals seem to know unconsciously that God provides for them for instance Jesus said the sparrow doesn't worry but the heavenly father feeds them in the How can this little sparrow get up and sing without a refrigerator he doesn't know where his next meal is coming from how can it sing it doesn't have any money in the bank how can it sing and it's like the animals say look you know God will take care of us and this is what job is also referring to is just look at the look at the evidence of God in His creatures that you see and they'll teach you that's what he's talking of the animals aren't really talking to us but they teach us through I love watching these nature programs of so many incredible miracles in nature would never evolved by accident and so in that respect you consider the animals and they're speaking to you Ok that makes sense and you made that clear to me thank you so much Pastor Doug All right thanks a lot God bless Caroline thank you but I by the way we do have a book that Caroline would enjoy It's called the wonders of creation and it talks Jo Cruz wrote a wonderful book will send her free copy 108356747 the book is The wonders of creation Rosalynn these calling from Bakersfield California Roseland Welcome to the program Thank you hi. There brought up I began to feel. That we have been worshipping the wrong. Aisle of all power. In different churches I have been in that why worship on Sunday and not. Keeping up for it and man man which is to remember that. Ollie and I would always be told well you know that the church. Changed that day and no where in the Bible is there a reference to that day being. Well I am believing that we should be worshipping on the Sabbath but my quote. How do you remember the abbot and how do you keep it holy and also wanting to react to what. I hear you know all right Higgs several questions there and we're just thankful for your study into the subject you're right to it it's very clear from the Bible that the 10 Commandments are still intact including the one about the Sabbath and were not key saved by keeping any of the commandments were saved by grace but if we are saved why would we want to break the law that says to kill or to lie or steal and right in the middle is that one law that says Remember the Sabbath and yet so many here to say well that's the one you're supposed to forget about it just doesn't make sense you actually but Christ said in Matthew 57. That you have not to destroy the law but you know the laws will fuck yeah well let me get your question we're going to take a break in a minute and I don't want to run out of time of course keeping keeping the Sabbath a holy God gives a number of specifics he says get done what you can do in advance when it came to baking or boiling their food they do as much of that as they could even in the wilderness in advance in the book of Nehemiah had said that they wouldn't do any commercial buying or selling people who would bring you know their offerings to the Lord on that day but they didn't get involved in any commercial purchasing or shopping you know Sabbath keeping is hard to keep the Sabbath when people are at the mall and and trying to make a sale so it's a day it's a holy day where we focus our attention on God it's to refresh our spirits it's where we recharge our spiritual batteries and Davidson tended to be a blessing and now you said that you're in the Bakersfield area got a number of friends here and so I know there's a number of Sabbath keeping churches there I'd recommend that you just you type into the internet browser there in Bakersfield Bakersfield s d 8. You probably find this several Sabbath keeping churches in the area and Anyway we're going to take a break the rules one hope that helps with your question a little bit listening friends we still have a couple of lines open we're going to be back in a few moments with more Bible answer live questions and also want to remind you if you have not seen the trailer yet for the new release called the Cosmic conflict and just click on the internet for a moment to type in cosmic conflict dot. 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Well if you read in Molokai chapter 3 and not trying to jump away from the verses you mentioned but if you read Malakai chapter 3 God's pretty specific he says bring the tie them to the storehouse and even all the way back to the Book of Leviticus where that tithe was really. The process for pain tithe as a nation on a national level was arranged they brought it to a central location where it was dispersed to the Levites that were ministering in the temple now prior to Moses when Abraham paid ties he paid ties to a priest by the name of milk his adik when Jacob came back from his captivity and he paid Thais were not exactly sure how he did it some think that's when he gave the gifts to Esau that was the tent he had promised to return to the Lord so you know that was before they really had a nation but once established as a nation it was given to a central location where it was judicious judiciously dispersed. Among those who are preaching the word on a full time basis for teaching the word in now there is a 2nd tion that talks about in the book of Deuteronomy when they would go to their national thesis they could take of this tie during the harvest and give it to the poor in need they could use some of that type of buy provisions on their way to the feast there's a lot more liberal guidelines about how to use this 2nd tithe of the feasts so sometimes people confuse the 2 and the really distinct. Applications of the time. So in other words Passover which is saying is offering is something that could possibly be used for meeting the needs of not only the local church but maybe people in need that you come across a people you know but these really you know Mark for the work of the ministry it's there to provide a missionary workers and teaches exactly the reason so on you know if you always have to and I'm glad you mentioned offering Pastor Ross because tithes and offerings are 2 separate things it it says further in the Molokai Chapter 3 bring the tithes and offerings so an offering is something given free will a tithe is a specified amount for a specified purpose. And Pastor Ross is 100 percent right offerings you can give 90 percent offerings if you want to give more of you want. An offering to something that's done from the heart. And hopefully that helps and we do have a study on absolute way we as you know the studies called in God we trust them as part of our facts Bible study guides it's free if you call our resource line 180-835-6747 you can ask of the study guide in God We Trust also you can read it online if you go to the amazing facts website or Bible universe you can also see that study guide there I mix. And she is calling from Savannah Tennessee Laredo up with the program thank you. Hold it kind of narrowed down my question we're going to Revelation Ok And my question is. 8. How do you interpret that Cree or I let me read this for our friends and I need to just issue a disclaimer here Pastor Ross and I do not know all the answers. And one of the tough places you've just come to let me read it for friends and the 2nd angel sounded in there and it was a great mountain burning with fire that was cast into the sea and the 3rd part of the sea became blood and then a 3rd part of the creatures that were in the sea and had life died and a 3rd part of the ships were destroyed and the 3rd angel sounded and there fell a great star from heaven burning as it were a lamp and it fell upon a 3rd part of the rivers in the 3rd part of the fountains of waters. This is talking about when these angels are sounding their trumpets. There are 2 things that are happening here in Revelation Chapter 2 and 3 I got a back up and give you a little bit of a broad view of revelation you've got 7 messages to the church to 7 churches this covers the religious history of revelation from the 1st coming to the 2nd coming. Then you've got the visions of the 7 seals of Revelation it sort of covers the political history of it that impacts the church between the 1st coming of Jesus and the 2nd coming then you have the 7 trumpets which cover something of the military history that affected God's people it's not all the military battles of the world but especially the major military movements between the 1st coming and the 2nd coming there also may be a future application here to the 7 trumpets keep in mind just before the 7 trumpets sounded the children of Israel were getting ready to cross over from the wilderness into the promised land so for any Jew who reads revelation when he thinks of 7 trumpets he automatically thinks of Joshua and Jericho falling right yeah. Yeah right so and when Jericho fell Jericho was their beachhead of entering the promised land the 1st city they conquered entering the promised land was Jericho and so what it represents is we're entering we're going from the wilderness we're entering the promised land so one thing that you think of when you think of the 7 trumpets is something that's going to happen just before we enter the Promised Land now there are some people who wonder if this burning mountain that goes into the ocean is an asteroid strike I don't think that's what it's talking about I think that these mountains in the Bible it tells us are symbols of different things in Revelation 17 it tells us that the 7 heads are 7 mountains on which the woman sits and these mountains have a meaning it's right often mountains are connected with kingdoms or political powers and these right now from a historical perspective some suggested that what's been described hearing in verse 9 of Revelation Chapter 8 refers to the destructive forces of the vandals when they entered into Rome and. Turned the city upside down we still have the wood vandal from the vandals because analysts and you know way they went about their battles and some of identified that is the judgment that came upon Rome because the part that Rome played in the crucifixion of Jesus and that's why it's one of the earlier trumpets that happened in history some time back. So it's hard to give you a study on the 7 trumpets in kind of the 3 minutes we budget for questions. But I hope that helps a little bit Loretta. If you could maybe in a few to become clearer to me you know I did a whole you know probably in 90 minutes Sermon on the 7 trumpets it's from a wood back in 93 I don't know if that's still online but you might search revelations seminar and see if my presentation on the 7 trumpets is there but we want to be able to fit that all in this program. Ok and passing laws is a good sermon on it too thanks a lot All right thank you Douglas I next call East Max calling from Manhattan New York Max you're on the air I give you this evening and your question my question comes from. Genesis chapter 2 verse $12.00 or 3 also Waltrip it's pretty clever Ok it's basically I just want to know do you believe that the victors prior to you didn't even have a well there's no welfare in the 1st record you just pointed to the 1st time the Sabbath is a memorial of the 7th day of creation of our world and so whether God in creating other worlds in other universe or galaxies had a cycle where there was a special holy time that one surprised me but for our world the time the God of stablished as a holy day was in the 1st a week and it seems to be specific to our world here. Ok because of the even active person of the group to March up it's wanted government that the Sabbath was made for man and not meant for the Sabbath which really exclude angels or any other entity. Not human Well in one sense Angel sort of vicariously keep the Sabbath God is assigned probably not all the many angels to be ministering spirits for what's happening here in the world I mean you know we talk about guardian angels in the Bible seems to support that I would think that those angels are also conscious of that holy time that God is setting aside your book of that's best That's what I believe as well die maybe the principle always existed but not exactly the Sabbath day where there was a principle of a holy time in heaven when it came down to human beings and how we were to communicate with God He created 7 day yet of course at the foundation of this question is the truth that the Sabbath is all about a love relationship I think everyone knows that a loving relationship requires time and not just any time it's quality time and so God knowing that he had given man a work to do said look but I've also reserved every 7th day a lay aside your work let us have our quality time and any time you spend with God in a special way is holy because he is holy so God said look I'm going to bless this period of time and be with you then that's important thing not and we needed for our lover relationships a little you know again we do have that study guide dealing with the Sabbath that's called The Last Day of history and for anyone wanting to know more about this important subject call a resource line 180-835-6747 asked for the study guide the last day of history and we'll be happy to send that out Morton is listening and Kay fi a from California Antioch Morton Welcome to the program good even evening and your question tonight my question is. Between me and my wife we have been listening to your program we have been truly blessed and we thank God for your ministry. We when we travel go and press Number 2 you know you know what happened sorry they're still there start your question again we got most of it Ok my question is pertaining to Hebrews Chapter 8. I was listening to this program and. The host was saying that the church. Being the church in the last day and and and there are so many people that are Listen I don't believe that I don't believe it but so many people that are listening and need clarity because I'm a Christian and they actually believe in the spirit and this person is talkin about . God if you're going to be all of Dick church. Station plays so much good Christian games. And I can understand why there are a lot of I know where you're going and by the way I agree that this station does play I listen to the station don't you talk about but he's teaching that we're not supposed to go to church anymore that the churches are all fallen in and you can't be saved in the church and that's really absurd because a very foundational Christian teaching is the church is the Body of Christ the church is not a building and he's saying well if you're part of any organized church then you're in the wrong place that's crazy too because the only alternative to being. Outside of an organized church is the be part of a disorganised church and God is not the author of confusion he says all things should be done decently and in order so you know this is kooky theology I do regret when he comes on the air and starts telling people that because he's deceiving them so what tax can I use you know. The current other because there are so many people that. I don't believe in well you know what I think is really strange is a lot of people that are listening to their radio station are finding the Lord in the organized churches so how can they say that they haven't found the lord people you know Pastor Aust pastors a church I pastor a church we see people coming to the Lord right and left and it's just absurd to be saying Oh God can't save anybody through the church anymore the church has problems it always has even back in the Old Testament but God is committed the oracles of truth his word to the church and he saves people through his body you know in Revelation we have a picture of 2 woman one in relationship to 12 another in relationship to 17 and a woman in Bible prophecy represents church and right there in Revelation Chapter 12 brings you right up to the point of the 2nd Coming of Christ and here is a church that is faithful she's closed in white she's standing upon the moon a crown of 12 stars she's the bride of Christ God does have people on earth that are going faithful I'm back to the end but what I'm saying that you know there was . A person from another church form of trust it sure is trying to car. Because they are just mix in the truth they're not speaking the truth for what it is well you know unfortunately Morton It's not just this one radio station there's a lot of false doctrines out there and you can just hear where they talk about Paul said in the last days that. Wolves would come in among the flock to draw with disciples after themselves and that's what's behind it frequently is they're drawing away disciples after themselves and unfortunately you can follow the money a lot of times you find the ridiculing the organized church because they're trying to raise funds for their own radio program or whatever it happens to be I don't know maybe this is a good time for us to mention the Pastor Ross and I don't get anything financially for doing this program we donate our time most of the people here in the studio they're taking the calls or donating their time with volunteers and you know you just you can sometimes tell when people are doing something from their heart or if they're running down the church because they're trying to build up some other personal ministry you know we have a study guide dealing with the subject of the church and its role in the world it's called The Bride of Christ and for anybody wanting to know it's all about a subject great study coal 180-835-6747 asked of the study guiding titled The Bride of Christ Danny is listening Ok 5 from Sacramento California Danny welcome to the program yes I was just calling wondering when the 1st. Stars can have an Revelation 12 I was wondering when that occurs it occurred before Adam and Eve were. Created or did it occur due to sacrifice from the crocked one wonders that occur well we don't really have a date that we can give but as far as a sequence I believe that there in that prophecy in the middle of the Book of Revelation towards revelations you got that 22 chapters there in chapter 12 it seems like John is transported back in vision and he's shown the foundation of the battle between good and evil and began in heaven and before Lucifer came to earth I think that he had been even did he and his angels had been evicted from the actual city of God in heaven. You know it does seem also that up until the point of Christ's crucifixion Satan had limited access you might say to heaven for example you know the story of Job we say shows up as the representative of earth and God says Have you considered my 7 job but after the death of Christ Jesus now becomes. The prince of this world he now has earned all taking back ownership of this planet so satan no longer is the representative of the earth Nasht Christ is our representative according to Hebrew so the casting out of heaven happened before the creation of the earth but it seemed as though the death nail took place at the death of Christ Ok yeah encourage Jesus said I saw Satan fall life and lightning from heaven and so Christ was there when he fell and. I think that Satan at the cross was really limited or of yeah if he did that's why Jesus said it is finished Thanks Danny and by the way will also send you that lesson on did God create a devil talks about Lucifer where he came from and where he's going 108356747 study guide is God create the devil Mark is listening from Watertown Massachusetts is that correct you may Yeah we got it Mark welcome to the program thank you very much for taking my call I'm. Reading the Bible and I love it but. God. I don't know where that's from but how do you reconcile Redwood germ I had 2911 now what is it that you're saying the what's the statement I'm pretty sure we were somewhere in the Old Testament God got angry and I don't know because I was. Our pastor was how do you know the verse that I'm thinking of it's in the New Testament with the saying well there's a verse in the 2nd Thessalonians shaft 2 and this verse 11 says because the people did not receive a love of the Truth God will send them strong delusions that they should believe a lie Ok that's what I'm talking about and I do you reconcile that with my 2911 I don't understand well if we're searching for God sincerely and we love the truth Jeremiah 291-1213 in verse 13 God is saying. That you'll search for me and you'll find me when you search for Me with all your heart if we're searching to know God and to do His will we'll know the truth in 2nd Thessalonians what God is saying is we reject the truth God is going to allow us to believe a lie there are people very right thank you that clears up a whole lot thank you so much Yep and there's one more verse in Hosea's that chapter 4 verse 63 says My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge because you've rejected knowledge when God sends the truth and people reject it then they can get to the place where they're very sincere about a lie you know Jim Jones had all those people down there and Diana and and many of them voluntarily took this cyanide laced Kool-Aid because they believed this lie that verse you refer to passages Hosea Chapter 4 verse 6 my people are destroyed because they lack of knowledge thank you next call these Kevin calling from San Francisco Kevin walk to the program Good evening gentlemen how are you doing well how can I help you have you know I just want to say one thing really quick before I get to my question that ministry that you were alluding to a couple of callers that have some really fine Christian people that don't agree with the president of the ministry like you Pastor Doug he calls the shots for his church in his ministry but not necessarily everyone and I'm talking about him now goes along with what he's saying and it's really unfortunate but there's nothing. Those people can do there are some very sincere committed Christian people with that ministry in Oakland California and Michael I believe that I've listened to them for years and I can tell when I listen to it that a lot of people there are they're kind of just have to grin and bear it but they they really don't agree with this position or exact you're exactly right and because I've called and talked to their office and spoken to people there and basically you know their pleas and their you know whatever go nowhere with the big boss but going to my question I was listening to you and I don't want to quote you verbatim here but I you know maybe you can fill in the blanks for me I have questions about you know what the Bible says about jewelry in particular I happened to be listening to you on the air several weeks ago it might have been a couple of months I was listening to your church service and you made a direct reference to your new Facebook account and you were talking about people that had signed up to be your friends on Facebook and you said that you and your wife were looking at these people and you couldn't believe that some of these people call themselves members of your particular denomination and look the way that they looked Would you explain those comments and again what does the Bible really say I've heard you give a lot of old but I'll tell you references to jewelry Well I guess I don't really I think it's also an issue of tattoos and I was surprised you know Facebook was a new thing for me and I'm learning more about it but I was really surprised when you know all these people were in a Christian forum and they're flexing their muscles and showing off their tattoos and going wait a 2nd aren't they read the Bible it says don't make any markings in your flesh and so I know there's a lot of Christians have tattoos maybe they're in the Marines or who knows but I want to take a picture of it and put it up I think well here's my tattoo and that explains you know Doug that explains that better and you know maybe like I said I can't quote you verbatim but you know what you said at the time. Macross to me is being extremely narrow in judgment on when I'm thinking like maybe some of these people were studying through your ministry maybe they weren't even members of the advent of church and they were just. Signing up because they were a fan of your ministry they listen to your sermon begin to benefit from them like you said they possibly could have had their tattoos for example prior to becoming a Christian and maybe never have been well you know it's more than that I think you're I don't know if you heard everything I said I was surprised that they're talking about these are people who specifically were supposed to be Christians and they were bragging about the parties and the alcohol and I just I was shocked that . You know these folks who are have joined a specifically Christian forum had it seemed to me they just didn't have any shame I want to go on and say oh yeah I'm part of a Christian form and by the way why we really got drunk last night what a party and they have got this new girlfriend way hope we go all the way and I'm going What in the world these are pretty these these people are a part of Christian form Don't they have any propriety of I mean I grew up in the world and I want to do that so you know that's the context of what was happening and if people didn't catch the whole statement or if it was edited and then they don't know what the context of that was but I'm still surprised when other words passed out which is saying it should be a distinct difference between the Christian man and the monk Christian in the way they live the way they look the way they behave we want to let our light shine and talk about Jesus we don't want to say you know we got a tattoo of a dragon I got and so yeah I'd some still surprise sometimes by what I see but hey we need revival appreciate your question Kevin and by the way I do have a book us specifically about jewelry and it's called jewelry how much is too much and it goes into what the Bible says about that subject and so I will send you a free copy of that if you'd like 880-835-6747 listening friends please don't forget we'd like to get your opinion on the new website called Bible prophecy Truth dot com. 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