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This is where you have be in this is our American stories and we chat with authors of sorts and well what kinds of books here to today we're joined by Sam Walker the founding editor of The Wall Street Journal sports section and the author of the captain class the hidden force to create the world's greatest teams and Sam look there's no better way to start a bar fight than the pick the greatest teams in the world I mean that's really hard and also you can have a bar fight deciding what's a sport what's a team talk about both of those things and was it hard or was it easy sometimes tell me it's pretty hard I thought it would be if I had those arguments are you know they always ended in someone storming out there was a possible to answer and what I realized is that there's really no criteria for how we define greatness and no one had really done a rigorous study or tried to actually narrow it down so that was the one of the toughest things I had to do at the beginning was to find great and in the end what I decided was that we have to be a little more specific about what team or team has to have a certain number of people I can't get to cheat less who are partners I finally decided that 5 people was really the point at which contributions good chemistry was more important than individual performance basketball sport study had another set of questions which was how do you define great and you know for me one of the problems is when people talk about great teams there's no real period of time that we tied to it a lot of people talk about seems that recruit in one season or an incredible undefeated season but what I really want to study what I realized was important is Teams that. Staying there for a long time because I think a team can get lucky they can win a championship in a one season or 2 seasons but really to rule out completely into talk about culture and chemistry and you really have to set the bar for years and let's talk about some competing theories that are out there because the name of your book is The captain class some people think it's the coaches some people think it's the management some people think it's that superstar player or the team of players what led you to this categorization and your choice to study the captain I was completely shocked I had all of the same assumptions that I think everyone does when I finally identified the teams that's what years and years are I want your 20000. Sports in. The world and I got 17 of them and you know the 1st thing I looked at was talent but talent would be the thing you get a quickly realizes some of these teams you know are talented but some had talent that was clearly at her church or even mediocre in some cases so wasn't the 2nd their coach got to coaching but to my great surprise there was a pattern there and I think coaching is an intro but some of the teams had more than one coach you know they changed coaches who are you know some didn't even have coaches or coaches who really didn't take an active role in fact only one of them had a coach who was considered a great coach when their run of dominant again so that wasn't the magic bullet I was looking for I also looked at things like tactics you know I thought maybe it's an incredible brilliant strategies that stood out above the rest but again you know you could say that was an out and either it didn't have a do or organization or even management at the higher levels the only thing that they all had in common and it was slap your forehead obviously it was just so plain as day when I looked at it was that these runs of greatness is Longstreet Saddam. Always correspond it almost precisely to the arrival and departure of one player and that player in every single case is the leader of the captain and let's take a deep dive in Dear Captain theory with the 1st captain I want to talk about in this great American sports franchise called the Boston Celtics Bill Russell who was . Bill Russell is in my mind the greatest team leader in sports history and what that team accomplished I've never seen a thing alive and they want to level n.b.a. Championships at 13 seasons and people forget to talk about the goals of Michael Jordan in 'd the Warriors today Bron James you know what we don't see is that incredible consistency the whole notion of a team that has won 10 n.b.a. Titles and yet is still hungry to win an. Incredible and they pulled it off year after year and now again outstripped again and it with the Russell started his rookie season when they won their 1st championship never want to title before and the year he retired was the last chance championship of the street in the the following season they even make it to 500 make the playoffs as many more years for them to return to glory so this was completely bracketed by Bill Russell and I want to make the point very clearly that I'm not saying that all you need is a great to have a great team I mean you need a lot of things a lot of things to work but to me the captain is really like that urbanites you know. The nouns the punctuation all those other things might be more interesting more memorable without the verb it's not doesn't work together and that's kind of the role these captains play in bringing together and Russell is such a great example because Russell was absolutely on the court completely strange he was a big man who did not score which is very. For the day and you know back then Defense Force was a leader fleet you know but he would fly through the air and block shots and he played this Roshi strand of defense was completely relentless in no one ever seen anything like and his numbers were not startle and so people didn't understand and you know off the court to him the strange and he didn't care about it or since he didn't sign autographs he was very prickly with the press and didn't really seem to care much about the fans or being a role model or anything that we associate with with leadership you know in fact he turned down the hall of fame you know when he was conducting these they didn't want any part of it people thought he was an oddball but really what they didn't understand was that all he cared about was the collective accomplishments of the team and all his effort every one inside the team and inside the teams he met a lot you know and everything about me I understood him completely and they would do anything for him and on the court you know he understood that you know what the team didn't need was someone pouring it basket and getting in I don't really need someone who do all the unglamorous work every 3rd job and used to be done in order to help the team win and that was his role so he is just hitting me great leadership and he was a misunderstood his time and you know I think only today were really start to understand the 4 dimensions of what he brought to a team and anyone who was around during the day Bill Russell was by the way played at the University of San Francisco great. 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Is our American stories and we're back with them longer the author of the captain class the hidden force the creates the world's greatest teams we were just talking about Bill Russell of the Boston Celtics and Sam You began the book with the words of this legendary Captain quote it when I ego demands for myself the success of my team well. Yeah I know I love that and it's a great in capsule a shell of what you need to be if you want to be a great leader and you know all the different ways that you need to think about your role as much you need to harden you to work and how much of yourself you need to just forget about in really need to kind of give yourself over completely to the goals the curb and that's something that we're not trying to do business schools are teaching people to do. And self-sacrifice are generally words people use for most C.E.O.'s in America we can we can say that they fully Sam talk about the Coleman play because one of the things about Bill Russell I'm going to learn this more about some of these other captains is this word called Desire and my goodness anybody who played around Bill Russell understood what that word meant. So this is one of my favorite stories because I think it it shows one of the characteristics that we all kind of know is unfortunate but that we don't really understand why it's important and that is relentless and Bill Russell was. To extreme. Get sick before every game they play meaningless games you throw up in the locker room and in fact that he didn't drop this he may say Russ throw up what's wrong with you. Because he cared so much but the cold play was a perfect example of why this matters now this happened in the season and it's the n.b.a. Finals and games. And this is one of the 1st games just a huge of a credible pressure and Russell as a rookie now lately game Boston a one point lead is what I meant and Boston got a rebound Russell charged on the court and he tried to dump all this stuff is tiring mess and St Louis got the. St Louis affording Jack Coleman had been sort of hanging back behind the plate and they quickly alternate at mid-court midcourt with the ball and a running start now. Russell who had missed that where was he was underneath his own basket off the court on the other he was about 96 from the basket and Coleman was 45 with a running start but when Colin. To make a lay up now this is late again they were taking a lead 'd in the end this bird appeared behind him so out of the ball and it was Russell and he had somehow twice the distance that Coleman had in the same time I mean nobody on in that arena or thought he had a chance and certainly must not non-self this that Rod desire that he demonstrate over and over again how Titian the thing about it is that was consistent for him and what we don't understand is that studies have shown that will let This is highly contagious you know if a group of people in the student something together thinks that one person in that group is giving 100 percent or will maximum effort all of them will raise their own performance if you have someone in your midst like that who is. Committed to playing old times and understand they're going to be serious marginal you will feel senior teamwork and that's just not something we can quantify so it's not something that we teach but I think it's about our We've all been around people who have that kind of drive been focused on what it does to our game we raise our game we raise the bar and when those people aren't present we don't even know where the bar is right exactly you know it's funny because there are some of motions that are contagious inside a group and. This is contagious always in a good way this is always contagious if you show toughness and perseverance others will too and another one is emotional control or something all these leaders have the ability to overcome really difficult personal circumstances and not just can t. Will become pure iron level than ever and Tom Brady. It's a great example of this you know a couple seasons ago after this whole deflate gets to a shiny surface suspension but he came back and played one of his greatest seasons but even after they won the Super Bowl this incredible comeback against. We find out that his mother undergoing chemotherapy you know and then cancer so he was going through that he never said a word no one knew about it and he had the control to put that away into play as hard as it was playing deal with separately no doubt we're going to get to Brady in a little bit because it's such a fascinating chapter in your book but let's talk about one more basketball player and I don't think he gets the credit he deserves Tim Duncan and the sin in Tony Burke talk about to me Duncan who is he she is a very unusual guy he was a great swimmer I really had incredible talent could have made even the swimmer but you know her cage came in and destroyed the local pool and about the same time his mother passed away and he had a hard knocks and he started picking up basketball and was very lightly recruited in fact way forces right on the school that really took him seriously he was very skinny and granted his body but you know he got there and really mature and he came out really hot and the process but I don't think anyone really saw that he was going to be the start he was or he would develop skills but the thing that's fascinating about him to those 2 things I think so much about him that is instructive for leaders but I think the most important thing really is the way he played he had the talent to dominate the n.b.a. In terms of scoring you know any of the stay in the sky is statistics but if you look at his totals It's really amazing which some years he was very prolific for some years it was not his blocks and rebounds other things were off the charts he would change his position on the court. And 3 different positions the pending on the makeup of the team it's show the other steam quality that Russell which is that he you care what numbers were or what you thought of him or whether he got on the cover a magazine he only cared about the team winning and he would do whatever grunt work needed to be done and he went changes rolled but the thing about Tim Duncan that really everyone is the way to communicate. And I was completely surprised when I looked at these cabins because the 1st thing I thought the 1st way that you know to meet its team is is with a speech give a big speech right you motivate them with words and none of these captains and they did not like to do it so the purposely avoided it and I did not understand this I didn't understand how they communicated effectively with a team and I went right to Duncan because if you there watched him give an interview you know he is not a terror threat a guy he sounds like he's going to call and ask answering questions he just has no motions he's monosyllabic he doesn't come across as a charismatic person so how does he communicate well he talks a lot but it's a different sort of communication and he's always working the room talking individually to one person one on one incredible intense stares uses his I act and gestures and talks to communicate very intensive people and he listens as much as he talks to who actually listens and he has interactions all the time and he has them in the moment especially when someone has done something wrong or needs a Kurd and that's when he turns into action and when I realize that the Spurs talk more than any team and they're always talking on the floor on the bench because the communication and this creates an atmosphere everyone feels like they can contribute they feel heard and they also feel like they have to account for. All the problems that were dressed in the moment nothing. Fasters. Allowed them to address problems and. That's why they were so. Players and one tribe had a great. History because that. Created you know allowed them to. Talk. Even though they didn't. So in the most money they were the most. Of their era. 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This is an all-American story as you may continue our conversation with Sam Walker author of the capping class and for anybody out there who's listening reading anything anyone who's a sports fan but even if you're not what a great discussion we were just talking about Tim Duncan probably the highest paid person that ever written in academic psychology paper because in college Sam he coauthored one titled blowhard snobs and narcissists into personal reactions to excessive egotism in the opening paragraph is the line quote Simply put we don't like egotistical people so we win is an undergrad Tim Duncan got it. It's shows you the level of intelligence and motion ontologies these great leaders and I don't know I think I think that my sense with junk I've never spoken about this and I was very proud of that paper but I think that really was who he was and the research that he did really explained to him that who he was as a leader you would look like a leader that you were you would take out of a crowd and his team it's always said if you walk in practice you could never imagine that he was the leader of the team he didn't he was the last voice he wasn't a huge presence or a charismatic person who barked out orders in doing things we're supposed to do well I found in my book and what I hope is inspiring. People is that you know you may not think that you have leadership characteristics in it think that there are things that you just aren't good at but really the truth is that all of the things that these leaders did were really about behavior and the choices that they made in the team context every day and behavior can be modeled leadership can be to be improved choice in the better and when you start to understand what leadership really involves and you start to separate out the myths and you can see why someone like Tim Duncan may not be the guy on posters in every gets better but he is by far the winningest most effective leader his generation you know his coach once said that didn't have an ounce of m.d.m.a. In him even agreed to be paid less than market value why did he do that what was he thinking on his agent must a Went to me What are you talking about you want the maximum so I can get the maximum commission what are you doing here Tom Brady the same thing with the Patriots and you would restructure contract every year so that 'd they can have more salary cap room to sign players I mean if that's what you do he's made more money I'm sure than he ever imagined it would lead to his wife and as most of his players have and it's not an affectation that he cared about. The team and the team's results were all the satisfaction came from much more than is satisfaction from having more money in the bank or having you know yet another super car garage and that didn't matter and she's an incredible person and you know I have so much respect for him and I I do think that there's a lot of appreciation for him but he is often left out of the conversation when people talk about the greatest players of all time and I just don't understand I don't understand this Hall of Fame mentality where you know we separate out an individual from his teammates and say This person deserves special praise I don't understand how and he I think they knew that they are whatever they are accomplishments we're all dependent on other people that it's. Divided team it's you it's important parts supporting parts one unit indeed I want to quote from the book because it's such a good quote something we all know and experience in any workplace quote one of the great paradoxes of management is that the people who pursue leadership positions most ardently are often the wrong people for the job you then cited the study of superstar I see you know as and now as they lift themselves up they often moer others in the process Tim Duncan in so many members of your camping class they did the exact opposite talk about. My favorite example of this is a woman named Carla and I doubt that you mediately remember that name she was the captain of that great 1999 u.s. Women's soccer team that won the World Cup and you know really dominated that sport for about 56 years just one of the best soccer teams and you remember Mia Hamm and Julie Foudy and Brandi chest pain all the big stars of that team but there's a reason you don't know Carla over back and because she did not cheer she did not whine you know as she was she had no interest in this. It whatsoever any personal accolades and she was not the best player in the team she was under and we never did in class you never scored she you know what would pass the ball off the minute she got a to want to retain it's and she you know she's played with this relentless pace but what was amazing about her as I think she understood what leadership is really about and it's really about service she was incredible is she did things I'd never seen before when this team would go on a long road trip to Japan or Norway they would get to their hotel they'd be exhausted and they'd get a knock on the door and they'd open it up and it was over back who was carrying their bags from the bus to their rooms for the captain of the team to. Ask who are who were coaches about this as and how does leadership how does this help or be a leader and he said you know if he knew exactly what he was doing it was Carl Overbeck would do these things on the absence of our team mates and they understood that her cared about was the collective the team she did not care about ourselves to do anything for that and this gave her a certain amount of currency bank account that she could spend when she needed to and she would spend it on the field because the minute that someone messed up or was not focused you'd be all over or encouraging them when they did something great and it meant something everyone understood who she was and what she was all about and it had great power when she did it count its history and made the team better let's talk about football now one and 2 teams in particular 1st the 1970s Pittsburgh's do it James who is Jack Wennberg And why did you in this book most folks think of Terry Bradshaw when they think about powerhouse Dillard team why was Jack Wennberg the guy you focused on the really the heart and soul that seems to me was extraordinary historically great and that was really the you know that Joe that he forward and just look them over to Jack Lambert showed up I mean this. Never want to Super Bowl 40 got there and you know and now they're you know there's one more I think than any other actual team and you know they are they are really a creation of Lambert's tenacious style and it's aggressive and it is relentless and Jack Lambert was a player who had an understanding of something that all these easily captains knew to some extent but I think you are the best example of it they understood the power of nonverbal communication of just gestures they understood that there were moments where they needed do something in their team that would show their level of passion is that would transfer to them and allow them to play harder and Jacqueline was famous course for the last a couple teeth and I schooled playing pickup basketball on the. Denture that he wore in public but he would take it off on the field so they had a toothless you know mouth and he would scare people so that was part of it but I think the tagline for story that I think shows you. Is that his leadership was that they were playing a game and a blue knights and. Had won the Super Bowl but they started one in 4 people written them off like it's over for the Steelers and they had to win the Bengals and you want to play probably the 5 games career in terms of number tackles our fumbles he basically accounted for most esteemed points single and so was in a credible game and on the middle of this game. Had came to the end had a cut on his hand and he bandaged up and you know he went out there and of course the band just sailed in the blood starts burning out it was all over uniforms pants me it was a mess I tracked down one of the trainers and asked him why didn't you just rewrap that then when it came off the field or to your point to have time or something and set your stand his exact Lambert law. He understood how powerful that message was. How much harder it made his teammates play and Alex intimidate is . He did that on purpose and Jack Laver did all kinds of things that might seem crazy. But when you listen to talk about it he always says he's worked out elated x. Is with things that. Purpose as I understood the power they would have. You know that's one of the reasons. So consistently. For Super Bowls 6 years. And what great storytelling and when we come back the final segment with Sam Walker more stories to come through of the captain questions this is our American story. Where the producers later producers and our American story shine our American network and we would like to hear your story if you or someone you know has an interesting story that you would like to share with America simply e-mail us a pitcher and a paragraph a picture and a paragraph to tell your story at our American Network dot org That's the picture in a very. 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And we're back with our final segment of our conversation with Sam Walker the founding editor of The Wall Street Journal sports section and author of the captain Quest the hidden force the create the world's greatest teams it's a terrific read go to Amazon dot com and order it you won't be disappointed I had to read something team Sam from quarterback John Elway of course he played Denver and this was him talking about Jack Lambert and by the way he was a rookie and here's what he wrote limbered had no teeth he was. Self and I'm thinking you can have your money back just get me and here let me go be an accountant I can't tell you how badly I wanted an affair and so you were talking about all of this nonverbal communication my goodness it didn't just fire up his team it scared the. The opponents talk about courage and how captains develop it you know a lot of it comes from emotional control and you know we don't think of Jack Lambert as being someone who was emotionally controlled but like all of these great athletes you know he was not someone who got in trouble off the field I mean he was not someone who got in a lot of brawls and none of these Captain Stevermer usually very quiet off the field Jack levels really have an introverted private person I mean he was a big reader and you know I'm road trips he would you would often just sit is your room reading a book I mean he wasn't an outsized character that aggression that he had on the field didn't translate to the rest of the life and that was going to solve all of these athletes and you know I think it's a way of redefining courage because you know he poured everything into football and all of his aggression all his passion everything you know he would put it all out on the field and you know when he wasn't there he had this incredible ability to shut it off and to kind of return to normal and to to be a quieter person and you know that's a form of courage that we don't really understand its ability to control your emotions you know being able to do that you know it's not courage in the sense of Rio running up the hill in a rain of bullets and some big military battle but it's a different sort of courage that I think is very contagious because I think people see you dealing with her emotions that way being able to control the knee able to target them toward objectives and I think it gives everyone a better understanding of how to operate a team environment and what courage really is let's talk about Tom Brady at the University of Michigan where he played as a collegian no one could imagine what would have been in store for him as a player he was a 6th round draft pick and then trouble keeping the starting job in college the loft. That says you're Henson it was you know. Supposed to be the next great you know quarterback the 2nd coming of you know Joe Montana Yeah no he went through a lot and you know. The fact that he even got on the field was a fluke because he only got to play because when a serious injury to Drew Bledsoe and it really shows you you know that it's very easy sometimes to not look inside someone I mean I think he had great talent physical talent and you know we've seen many flashes of that Michigan but what was really lurking inside him was incredible elite leadership ability and you know also great tactical mind and all those things that you know I think scouts too often dismiss Brady was tough because you know Brady's accomplishments I know everyone loves to talk about Brady and greatness of the Patriots but you know until I believe this season when they made another Super Bowl and won 88 straight a.f.c. Championship games you know their record was very similar to the 49 ers in that long stretch where they were very dominant so same number superballs roughly the same winning percentage so I had a very hard time saying either one of those teams was unique so initially for the hard cover I didn't put the Patriots and but later on I after they made that Super Bowl I decided put the men because I thought their record clearly outpaced the 49 ers But the thing about Brady that stands out to me the most beyond his leadership qualities is relationship as coach and that is something that is fascinating to me and I said that coaches weren't important factor the crucial factor and I don't think they are but what's really important in these great teams with coaches is that they have a partnership with their captain and I saw this over and over again it wasn't a boss employee kind of relationship Bill Bell check in Tom Brady had this relationship that was unusual it was like the relationship 10 Duncan had Gregg Popovich to it was very affectionate and there's a lot of love between them but they knew how to fight and they would fight. All the time they were in a conflict about tactics and never personal it was always about it he was planning to double check with would go to team meetings and a parade in front of everyone for mistakes that he made and he would take it and it would tell everyone that no one is above the team but you know it Tom Brady like the Super Bowl playbook that is given to rip it up and start over so that partners I think really under-rated you remember that 1st seed and Tom Brady can't use a 6th round draft pick no one. Anything and Bill Belichick was a guy who got fired at Cleveland no one thought had the chops to be a head coach and together they became 2 of the legends of football but I don't think you can separate them I don't think it was something they could have each individual partnership in their ability to work together it was so important and I think that message for coaches and people from people who are trying to assemble teams with this kind of leadership model is that you've got to pick someone to lead that team that you can really partner with and that you respect and that you can really treat as a peer I think that's true when there was a balance of power you wrote about and mutual respect and that fighting wasn't a bad thing and you equate the great captains and coaches to married couples I was lucky to see a great marriage my mom and dad would fight like cats and dogs and it was over right after the fight and then I'd see him loving each other and then when they disagreed they'd go at it and it was respect true each other and they taught me how to fight which is a wonderful thing people who can disagree and then carry on you're giving the greatest gift in the world it's true that's so underrated and it's funny to does especially in sports there's this weird sense that conflict is that you know there's there are certain players and think about these taboos when they were not. I mean they would push back on anything they didn't think the best interest but by that was something big or small they would push back against the coaches they were pushed back against. Teammates as well they were willing to stand apart and you talk about courage and that's an underrated form of courage its ability to just dissent from the group and science to actually shown that there is a an element of physical discomfort that comes with standing apart so it's something that's not easy to do and yet it's so crucial you know all the studies that have been done a team performance show. Teams that really work together and in close ways as they do in sports a certain level of conflict is sensual but there's a different kind of conflict there's 2 kinds really there's a kind of conflict they called Task conflict which is really about an argument about process about how the team is doing something or wow they should do something and there's another form of conflict which is personal conflict this is one the source of the conflict is really just I don't like you and there's a real difference at all these cabinets whenever they introduce conflict in their team's name in a huge point to makes clear that it wasn't personal they never singled out individuals they never blamed any one person it was always about the collective and it was always about the task in the process and it's a huge difference it's so easy to mistake those 2 things and look at someone who is creating conflict as a bad thing when you not run necessary looking at why they're doing it or how they're doing it and that was one of the real secrets like uncovered something I had no idea about and so I really took at it Sam You wrote something fascinating about all these captains if they were more like jazz musicians than conductors and that they freely improvised on and off the court to get the job done. There was one of the things I had never considered I think about teams but there was a famous researcher named Richard Hackman who was a Harvard psychologist who passed away a few years ago he spent all his career imbedded with performance teams that do things in real time whether airplane cockpit crews or emergency room. Units or even Symphony Orchestra's and he would watch the way leadership works and what he discovered was so exactly terrible to what I found in these teams which is that the legions charisma and talent did not it just wasn't a factor they could have it they could not have it didn't really make a difference all that mattered in fact in terms of leadership inside a group is that every single important function of leadership gets done that said anything that needs to be done in order to help the team from one perspective long as someone does it doesn't even have to be the leader p.g. Somebody else and all these great teams what you saw was that these captains that established themselves as the person who would do anything if there's a burning building that no one else wants to go into they're going to go into it and once that's established and basically everyone on the team whether a superstar or bench player understands that they're free to do their jobs and focus on what they need to do and if they want to contribute to leadership they can they can do with the ways they want to do the things that they're good at what it's mentorship are being the spark plug or being sheriff or doing something else to help the team as a group and you start to see this happening this beautiful symphony that starts where everyone does what they're good at and everyone pitches and every single function of leadership gets taken care of and a great leader will never feel territorial never feel unhappy that someone is doing a leadership function because frankly it's a hard job being a great leader you know and sustaining actual incident credibly taxing and difficult and anyone who's doing it the right way will be so happy to have help and assistance from others on this book will help others and assist them too we've been talking to Sam Walker the founding editor of The Wall Street Journal sports section an author of the captain class the hidden force that creates the world's greatest teams picking up on Amazon I promise you you will not be disappointed Sam thanks. 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