Revealed important evidence as it were along we probably would never have known about the tapes that Nixon had made to the White House had it not been for the impeachment process so watch for the evidence that is introduced particularly on the 1st morning. We look at the political crisis in Bolivia after President. Resigned following what he described as a code morale and says now in Mexico where he's received political asylum. Because he was there but I also want to tell you brothers and sisters as long as I am alive we will stay in politics as long as I'm alive the fight will continue and we're sure that the people of the world have all the rights to free themselves. Coming out. Now Democracy Now dot org The War and Peace Report I'm Amy Goodman televised impeachment hearings begin today and the inquiry into whether President Trump withheld military aid from Ukraine to pressure the Ukrainian president to investigate Trump's political rival Joe Biden and his son 2 witnesses are testifying today before the House Intelligence Committee George Kent a deputy assistant secretary of state and William Taylor a former ambassador and the top u.s. Diplomat in Ukraine both officials have privately told congressional investigators Trump withheld aid to Ukraine and an attempt to pressure Ukraine to investigate the Bidens and now released text messages Bill Taylor texted Gordon Sunland the u.s. Ambassador to the European Union the wealthy hotel magnate quote Are we now saying security assistance and White House meeting are conditioned on investigations Sunline texted back call me perhaps not wanting to leave a paper trail today marks only the 3rd televised impeachment hearings in u.s. History well up more on today's historic hearings. For headlines with the legendary journalist Bill Moyers who covered the Nixon and Clinton impeachment hearings in Bolivia right when Senator John McCain And yes declared herself president Tuesday night despite a lack of quorum in Congress the same day long time Bolivian President Evo Morales landed in Mexico where he's received asylum this is Cheney 9 yes. As president of the chamber of senators I immediately assume the presidency of the state as 1st seen in the constitutional order for them and they commit myself to accept responsibility for all necessary measures to pacify the country he. Says movement toward socialism or my party is refusing to recognize sign yes this president calling her claim illegal decrying morale ases resignation over the weekend as a military coup on Tuesday the Organization of American States held an emergency meeting in Washington d.c. Where u.s. Ambassador Carlos strophe Oh read a statement from President Donald Trump applauding a Vollmer Alice's resignation warning it should quote send a strong signal to Venezuela Nicaragua Mexico or of why Nicaragua and the president elect of Argentina have all denounced Morales his departure as a military coup. Turkish president ratchet type aired one is visiting President Trump at the White House today and will hold a news conference with him this afternoon the visit comes amidst international condemnation of the recent Turkish offensive into northern Syria which Turkey launched after President Trump abruptly withdrew u.s. Troops from the area clearing the way for the offensive u.s. Military officials told c.n.n. Tuesday the Pentagon has a drone surveillance video showing a possible war crime being carried out by Turkish commanded fighters in Syria last week former national security advisor John Bolton surprised a Miami gathering of hedge fund managers when he said he thought trumps to say. In Turkey are motivated by personal relationships or financial interests the New York Times reports 3 sons in law play key roles in the u.s. Turkey relationship the son in law of President air and one who's Turkey's finance minister the son in law of a Turkish tycoon who became a business partner to the Trump Organization and the son in law of President Trump a senior adviser Jared Kushner who oversees much of u.s. Foreign policy the Supreme Court heard oral arguments over lawsuits demanding the trumpet ministration preserve DACA that's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals the Obama era program that grants protection from deportation and a work permit to at least 700000 undocumented people brought to the United States as children the New York Times reports the court's conservative majority appears poised to side with President Trump in ending the program while some of the court's liberal justices seemed skeptical of Trump's efforts Justice Sonia Sotomayor said on Tuesday the term a nation of Dhaka quote It's not about the law this is about our choice to destroy lives she said. The supreme court also heard oral arguments Tuesday in the case of slain Mexican teenager. And Hernandez Garrick who was shot in the face and killed in 2010 as he played in c. It had Juarez by a Border Patrol agent who stood across the border and El Paso Texas during arguments liberal judges expressed concerns over providing no legal relief to the families of people who've been killed in cross border shootings by u.s. Agents essentially allowing federal officers on American soil to act unlawfully with impunity but conservative justices reportedly seem to side with the Trump administration with Justice Brett Kavanaugh emerging as a potential decisive vote in Supreme Court also declined to hear and appealed by gun manufacturer Remington Arms Tuesday clearing the way for the families of the $26.00 victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting and Newton Connecticut to sue the firearm manufacturer the families are arguing Remington violated Connecticut law when it marketed the Bushmaster rifle for assaults against human beings the Supreme Court's decision not to take up the case let stand the Connecticut Supreme Court's decision to allow the Newtown families lawsuit to move forward. And in more legal news a federal court in Boston has ruled u.s. Authorities warrantless searches of people's phones and computers at airports and other u.s. Ports of entry violates the 4th Amendment the American Civil Liberties Union and Electronic Frontier Foundation which filed the suit celebrated the ruling as a victory for privacy rights and more privacy news the Health and Human Services Department. It's open to federal inquiry and to Google's Project Nightingale program which seeks to collect health data on millions of Americans project Nightingale as a collaboration between Google and ascension the 2nd largest health care provider in the United States and a video posted on line a whistleblower who works with the program says the cache of medical data includes the full names and medical details of millions of Americans newly released government data shows the u.s. Government has detained a record number of migrant children over the past year nearly 70000 babies children and teenagers held in u.s. Government custody that's a 42 percent increase over the last fiscal year the American Academy of Pediatrics has condemned child detention saying even short periods of detention can cause psychological trauma and long term mental health risks the Southern Poverty Law Center says White House senior adviser Stephen Miller sought to promote white nationalism far right extremist ideas and racist immigration stories through the right wing website Breitbart in the lead up to the 2016 election that's according to a cache of leaked emails that Miller sent to a Breitbart writer in 201520161 Tuesday New York Congressman Barr Alexandra cost you a Cortez called for Miller to resign. In Afghanistan officials say at least 7 civilians were killed in a car bombing in the capital Kabul no one has claimed responsibility for the attack it comes after the Afghan government and the Taliban breached a prisoner exchange deal which could lead to the release of an American professor who was kidnapped in Kabul and 2016 major protests in Hong Kong are continuing to escalate for a 3rd straight day today including clashes between pro-democracy students and police at the Chinese University of Hong Kong. We have not succeeded with our 5 demands since the movement began in June and more have been added including reforming the police force who knock a book until justice is served that was one of the thousands of protesters out on the streets of Hong Kong Tuesday the Chinese Foreign Ministry says it stands by the Hong Kong police who are accused of escalating violence against protesters. The central Chinese government firmly supports the government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region police and judiciary authorities taking effect of measures to severely punish illegal criminal activities or protect the safety of all Congress events and their property 1st for peace and stability in Hong Kong in Chile protesters led a massive national strike Tuesday as they condemned the government's plans to rewrite the country's constitution which takes a back to Augusta Pinochet's military regime chalets and cheerier minister and now on Sunday the government would draft a new constitution which Congress would then rewrite and put to a public referendum but protesters say that people should be involved with the rewriting process from the beginning and that this is an attempt by Sebastian pain yet as government to delay political and social reforms in Chile. In Michigan former McDonald's worker generates is suing the fast food chain over sexual harassment she says she and other female McDonald's workers were groped assaulted in verbal Iraq by one of their coworkers and the general manager ignored the abuse the lawsuit comes one week after McDonald's former c.e.o. Steve Easterbrook was fired for having a sexual relationship with an employee and Connecticut long time u.s. Resident Salma Sikandar has won asylum months after her husband led a hunger strike in front of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in Hartford Connecticut to protest her deportation Sikandar has lived in the United States for nearly 20 years but in June she was abruptly told by that she had to leave the country by August this is a kinder son Samir Mahmoud explaining how his father decided to launch the hunger strike so what happened was mind bunch of crazy ideas because there is he was losing his mind to be honest because of the deportation he was going to lose a lot of his life and he's going to lose my mother so he thought they were having a hunger strike in front of Hartford in front of vises building where if they will come out the window they see us for the next 43 hours until the deportation dates last time and so the hunger strike group led in front of August 3rd and other individuals who joined then over hundreds of people will join those from New South Wales or major to the Manchester marriage to say our full interview with soundless a condor and Samir Mahmud go to Democracy Now dot org an American author and historian Oleg not to have has died at the age of $78.00 he was the co-founder of the new abolitionist society and coeditor of The Journal race traitor who slogan was treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity know it not you have spent decades theorizing about white privilege and calling for the abolition of whiteness saying quote The were. White Race consists of those who partake of the privileges of white skin he was also the author of the book How the Irish Became White he died on Saturday at his home in Tucson Arizona and those are some of the headlines This is Democracy Now Democracy Now dot org The War and Peace Report I'm Amy Goodman and Don Juan Gonzalez welcome to all of our listeners and viewers across the country and around the world. Televised impeachment hearings begin today in the inquiry into whether President Trump withheld military aid from Ukraine to pressure the Ukrainian president to investigate his political rival Joe Biden and son 2 witnesses are testifying today before the House Intelligence Committee George Kantor a deputy assistant secretary of state and William Taylor a former ambassador and the top u.s. Diplomat in Ukraine both officials have privately told congressional investigators that trump withheld a Ukraine in the time to pressure the government to investigate the Bidens confirm there was a quid pro quo or Donald Trump is just before us President to face an impeachment inquiry Bill Clinton was impeached in 1990 a John Simm was impeached and 868 Richard Nixon resigned in 1974 prior to an impeachment vote today we're joined by the legendary journalist Bill Moyers who covered the next and Clinton impeachment hearings in the 19 sixty's Bill Moyers was a founding organizer of the Peace Corps he served as press secretary for President Lyndon Johnson in 1971 he began an award winning career as a television broadcaster on p.b.s. As well as on c.b.s. And other networks more years has received 37 Emmys 9 Peabody's and countless other prizes he was elected to the Television Hall of Fame in 1995 last week Bill Moyers took out a full page ad in The New York Times urging p.b.s. To broadcast the impeachment hearings law in. And to really run them in prime time Bill Moyers Welcome back to Democracy Now good to see you again Amy and one thank you for having me and I don't know what this legendary means except does it mean I'm past tense. You know right here if you're very right now talking about the future and thank you so much for that they'll talk about this full page ad that you took out and what you're calling for we're calling for p.b.s. Our friends and colleagues there to put the hearings on which they will carry live in the afternoons when they happen along with c.b.s. N.b.c. And other networks but the put them live as they did with Watergate in prime time 8 o'clock at night so people who have worked all day can come home and watch what they missed Now my friends of p.b.s. Some of them say to me Well people can find it it's on this cable channel it's on that satellite channel the kids on the Internet but that's different from having to look for it in the wild west of the modern media universe from being able to see it simply easily right there in your living room and many Americans still get their television the old fashioned way from the set in the evening prime time is are still are is still our public square and for p.b.s. To repeat the hearings in prime time gives the many millions more people the chance to see it collectively in a sense and see what's happening here what's happening and make up their own minds and Bill you know you are obviously front and center during this the Watergate hearings talk about the impact of those televised debates on what people thought about Watergate and about President Nixon actually are 2 main anchors at that time it p.b.s. Robert MacNeil and Jim Lehrer were front and center I did a peripheral coverage and then I did a documentary that summed it all up cold and say oh Watergate what those hearings did was to give millions of Americans the chance to hear the evidence as it unfolded to see. Test for themselves the credibility of the witnesses whether they could seem believable are not. P.b.s. Was new then it was a rookie network not many people were taking it seriously and all of a sudden we were the only network in prime time public service that were giving these hearings full exposure with very effective moderation by Robin and they didn't get the way of the testimony they were not pundits they were guiding their viewers through it and as a result millions of Americans got to see for themselves democracy own trial how it was handled it was a more sedate area era in Congress then than it is now it was before Gingrich who unleashed. The forces of of wrath when he was speaker of the house and people were polite but they asked serious questions they develop their stories and the result was at the end Americans felt they had a sense of what it was all about Nixon I think would have been impeached because but before that happened several Republicans was a different Republican Party then went down to the White House and said You've got to go it was those hearings that showed Americans how the process worked was the evidence believable and actually actually it was during those hearings that testimony came out about the hidden tapes that Nixon had made of every conversation he had in the White House from Van De Witt and found the tape that proved to be the incriminating indefensible evidence that Nixon had had told the f.b.i. To keep this the way from investigating charges against him. Punditry one of the important roles of a Public Broadcasting is precisely not only that as you say that the commentators generally take a backseat and let the actual events on full of themselves. Rather than constantly commenting but also there are no commercial interruptions I mean the whole idea that you're in a serious public hearing and then whether it's c.n.n. Or Fox or or n.b.c. They have to break the commercials and decide what part of the testimony not to cover it really does have an impact on how people digest the information doesn't do is we slice and dice the news today all of us do a bit here a bit there an episode here and up so then this kind of a daily coverage it's hard to get the main story of the Big of the big event that's going on you know I have many friends that we all 3 of us have many friends and commercial television but commercial networks have made their peace with the little lies and merchandising of our economic system I mean that's how they make their living p.b.s. Was intended not to be a commercial enterprise but to be a public service supported by the the public as we are in fact we all pay a little bit in taxes to keep p.b.s. Own air and that makes a difference if you can read or see a story without a constant eruption without somebody else's voice getting inside your ear and beginning to interfere with your story it's a different experience and it's free over the airwaves that's a deficit think the u.s. Where everybody can come home and without having paid a cable fee or. A streaming fee you can see it right there in your living room let's talk about the difference between the coverage of the next and impeachment hearings and what we're seeing today how do you think the coverage that the impeachment inquiry into Donald Trump on this 1st day as we lead into the public part of the inquiry is happening when as the New York Times said yesterday the Watergate hearings took place in a more as I said earlier as the day environment I mean the Republicans the Democrats with much more civil to each other than they are in Congress now that was more. Civic education than it was a food fight the Clinton and Clinton impeachment became a food fight that was to turn in our history when the ability of the 2 parties to seriously explore an issue together dissolved into conflict and accusations and what we see today but they were able in those days to let the evidence come out slowly I think it was 5051 nights and days at p.b.s. Carried the hearings and then today. As we know. It will be a circus I mean there will be efforts to try and the Democrats tried it in the Clinton impeachment trial they tried to keep interrupting the Republicans and prevent them from making their case against Bill Clinton that of course is going to happen in these hearings I want to go back to Richard Nixon addressing the country in the face of the growing threat of impeachment. I don't know whether or not their president. But I'm not a I heard everything I got. After 2 years of denials and under growing pressure Nixon left the White House in August 1974 he resigned becoming the only us president ever to resign from office. In the presidency report . You are here. Who say goodbye to us. And we don't have a good. Word for it in English. The best initial review are with you again. Richard Nixon Bill Moyers You remember that moment when we did see him again too because he was resurrected after his political death and very well is making speeches comedy books and all that yes I watched that moment and wasn't surprised because I had watched the Watergate hearings all the time of the evidence was as I said earlier indefensible. You couldn't you couldn't undermine that evidence Oh and there were so many serious constitutional charges against Nixon that the country took it much will she received and they did the Clinton impeachment Well I mean there was this seminal moment and the summer of 1973 when Tennessee Republican Senator Fred Harris people may know him more as the law and order d.n.a. From television asked Alexander Butterfield about the existence of any recording system Butterfield causes then details the system for about an hour non stop he was only cold like he only knew he had like 3 hours before I think to testify he didn't have a lawyer with him he didn't call to consult a lawyer if he did he might never have revealed a speck talk about that moment. Well Alexander Butterfield was an honorable man and there were many honorable Republicans in that time who decided they had to really be honest with the American people and when he disclosed that there was this tape these tapes were existed and Nixon was on the record so that the members of Congress and the public could actually hear what he was saying there was almost was off almost like a great sucking in of the breath of hearings and of Americans they suddenly knew they didn't have to take somebody else's word for it they didn't listen to Richard Nixon and you suddenly you just realize this was going to take a significant turn I'm sure makes you any better film I think me Butterfield many years later and that like security system at the White House yes yes he was he was the equivalent of l.b.j. Had his own Alexander Butterfield but. He didn't have as many recordings as Nixon did yes. You could almost look at that face again of Alexander Butterfield making sure he was going to do it and the term to do it and then doing him in television you know it makes the cinema strangers that moment made better feel and I'm an ally of everybody who believed the Constitution was in danger and it's a memorable moment in American history I think there's a recording of the trunk phone call well I have wondered that not because I'm. No anything just watching the pattern of the Nixon hearings. And what brought him down town I think there could well be a recording of that phone call I happen to know that you know most of Lyndon Johnson's phone calls were important ones were recorded Nixon recorded apparently many more than l.b.j. Did and and I'm sure that the security people in the White House have something more telling than we have seen so far because everything we've seen has had ellipses in it the transcripts of that phone call and people have talked. Around it somewhere buried in the White House may well be a recording that as with the Nixon tapes you read to go to the Court the Congress had to go to court. To get the Supreme Court to rule yes or no on whether those tapes could be made that take the voters feel which talking about could be made public Congress approved for the public and for Congress maybe we could come down to that in this if somebody reveals in the course of the next few days that yes there is a tape of the recording between President Cho and the president of Ukraine where speaking with legendary broadcaster journalist president says that sure man Media Center Bill Moyers Stay with us RINGBACK 'd. And. You. Play by Roberta Flack it was one of the top hits back and 1973 and amidst as they well. Impeachment inquiry and to Richard Nixon This is Democracy Now I mean we didn't want any solace Our guest is the legendary broadcaster Bill Moyers on a bill I want to ask you again about the the Watergate hearings. John Dean's testimony as one of the inner circles of the president at the time the impact that that had on the public and also the fact that in today's situation President Trump is doing everything possible to prevent any of his inner circle from being able to testify before Congress in essence running out the clock. On this impeachment process hoping that there will be time for for the Congress to have the hearings with his people if a court decision has to be made about his inner circle being able to testify exactly but in those. They didn't have that defense and so one witness after another everybody alive today can remember when John Dean said Where did you tell the president I told the president there was a cancer on the presidency and again you could hear a kind of. Unanimous gasp in the hearings and around the country you knew from that that we were owned to something different from. You know just President Johnson 87866 was impeach 6068 because he had fired the Secretary of War Stanton That was the charge against him this was not a cancer of the presidency that you realized there was something must have to sizing politically that was we had better pay attention to and John Dean again realized that this was telling the truth now was the only way out of the hole into which the White House had dug itself and in that in some some of your statements recently you've been talking about the importance that of the so many lies that we've been exposed to are actually undermining our democracy could you expand on that as we know also President why they do so tactically they do so strategically Franklin Roosevelt lied about Lynn leash and convince the public to go along with that all presidents it's a defense they used but not all presidents Lysis to make way not all presidents like constantly and the fact of the matter is and it's not just the president but not just the White House lies that are filling the atmosphere with this poxy pours in that good friend my good friend and colleague Eric Alterman a very distinguished journalist and professor of journalism in town has written about the lives of presidents is a wonderful documentary called all governments lie and they do but what we have now is. Is is is a culture of lying not only from within politics but from within. Media that is determined only to protect and save the present United States Donald Trump and I think about things big and small Yes exactly and you don't know what to believe in Him I still believe that facts matter but they're trying to change the facts onus and that's where a few journalists in the few media outlets have a real role to play it's to always put on the table the evidence against the lies of the being told by the people who have a vested interest in lying. So what kind of response have you got your full page ad in The New York Times calling for the airing of these hearings not only live but in primetime and that's significant says p.b.s. Interestingly back and next Nixon wanting to get rid of p.b.s. Is a his special assistant to Pat Buchanan later the candidate for president and formidable right wing champion said yes let's just defund it she's got to get rid of it not fund it in here those days p.b.s. Bravely bravely stood up and said we're going to cure the here now they were nervous because the right wing was already taking p.b.s. Only actual more lives eliminated they her were harassing trying to intimidate but and so they asked the stations What do you think and only 52 percent of the stations just a little over half said less care the hearing they did I think later everyone claim credit for having carried the hearings but p.b.s. Did its role the end as a public educator you know impeachment proceedings are a civic education we rarely get to see democracy on trial we rarely know what's really happening in government so much more is happening than we know and when you have an impeachment hearing only. 4 in the American history counting this when you get to hear things you would never. No otherwise and p.b.s. Carried it all then as we stand earlier and people did get the message even Republicans changed their position new to both of you you're too young to remember that after a while handful of Republicans in the Senate go water among them Howard Baker among them went down to see the president and said Mr Nixon Mr President you can't you can't say you've got to go that was the power of those Here's what we're saying the public broadcasting now and some of my colleagues in public television keep saying well this is the media universe has changed well of course it's change I know that I've been a part of it of that change but what hasn't changed is the importance of people to watch what can happen when they can't and we're asking public television stations to do to put it on prime time repeated in prime time now the response has been good from salmon and begs to differ from the others I mean. Our major station in the Washington area is is carrying it live in the afternoon of mornings Bob during the day and and repeated at in the evenings wonderful the small sister stations up in Vermont they're carrying it the same way and they're preempting their regular programming I mean it's always painful to disrupt your regular programming but they are doing it and they're putting the breaks or programs own their digital channel their subchannel and they're running a crawl we call a crawl a business across the bottom of the screen says you can see Antiques Roadshow you can see Nova you can see your regular programming owner subchannel But watch this one because this is what's what happened today so but here in New York. They explain that they they they think that their chat their sub channel their digital sectional is is is enough they're sticking with their regular programming I think it's their last opportunity. To educate help. People in this area for themselves what they can see during the day but public television is not a top down network stations have the autonomy to decide their own programming some are and some are if you're living where they aren't cold. Of Watergate there was no. Long term of like she spends I'm wondering if you're seeing your expecting rise shop rise in the viewership or seatback to suspend usually that only broadcasts congressional events during the day but then rebroadcast them in the evenings as well that will in prime time on C.-Span if you get C.-Span and C.-Span was created by wonderful inventive broadcaster in the early seventy's and you can go there now but it's just it's a small audience just like p.b.s. Is channels that are marginal It's a small audience and sometimes it's difficult to find out who it's there but p.b.s. Is the it's the last remaining and I'm not claiming for a moment that we get the audience we got in 1973 and 174 because you do have opportunities through Internet through satellite through your devices to see it but there's nothing like seeing it in a sense collectively. You're aware it's math there was a letter written to the New York Times a plea from 33 writers words matter stop using quid pro quo the writers write a plea from 33 writers please use language that will clarify the issues at hand please stop using the Latin phrase quid pro quo regarding the impeachment inquiry most people don't understand what it means and any case it doesn't refer only to a crime asking for a favor it's not a criminal act we frequently demand things from foreign countries before. When they made like asking them to improve their human rights record. Please use words that refer only to criminal behavior here used bribery or extortion to describe Mr Trump's demand to President Selenski of Ukraine making it very clear this is a crime the more we hear words that carry moral implications the more we understand the criminal nature of the act. Where a language can be used to conceal as well as to reveal and when this being employed and subpoenaed to be used for to to do to defend the crime you find a way to call a crime something other than crime I don't know we don't know what the president did regarding Ukraine is a crime in a strict legal sense but it could well be a crime against the constitution and it's abuse of power and look if you listen to the testimony today and in the ensuing days if you read the transcript you will see that this is clearly a case you know circumstantial evidence is all for the basis for judge but in a legal trial you will see that this president in effect extorted offered to extort the Ukraine out of a difficult situation and that is a crime against the constitution if in fact it happens and it's something I would not want a Democratic president to do to you his power or her power one day to get a pro a foreign government to interfere in our elections and then there's the question of whether this impeachment inquiry will expand with President Clinton it started as an investigation into Whitewater and it went on to become round the relationship he had It'll be very interesting and we're going to look at that and coming days the issue of whether this will remain with Ukraine or go to issues like the death of children on the border in u.s. Custody as separation of families and other issues but we're going to deal with that in another. On another day because today we have to move on to a debate on what's happened in Bolivia Bill Moyers You want to thank you so much for being with us legendary broadcaster president of the show and Media Center former host of Mars and Company on p.b.s. Has won more than 30 and these democracy now by the way will be live streaming today's impeachment hearings beginning at 10 Eastern Time at Democracy Now dot org come to us when we come back we look at the political crisis in Bolivia president a former Alice resigned over the weekend following what he described as a coup a right wing senator has now declared herself president stay with us. Thank you. But. This is Democracy Now I mean a good man with one. Of the deepening. Political crisis in Bolivia on Sunday Bolivian President Evo Morales resigned in what he described as a coup shortly after the Bolivian military took to the airwaves to call for his departure on Tuesday Morales flew to Mexico where he has received the silent on Tuesday night right wing Senate surge and the 9 years declared herself a live news new president despite a lack of a quorum in the Congress to approve her ascension to that post. This government they want to see n.p.r. Or you know we are facing here a presidential succession originating from the vacancy of the presidency of the state and to go to the definitive absence of the president and vice president which means that according to the text and meaning of the Constitution our government as president of the chamber of senators I immediately can see I'm not the president of the state as well as for seeing in the constitutional order and I commit myself to accept responsibility for all necessary measures to pacify the country. Yes held up a Bible when announcing her claim to the presidency declaring the Bible returns to the presidential palace Elmo doll is moving toward socialism party is refusing to recognize the new president calling her claim illegal and crying more dollars his resignation as a military coup last month President Morales was reelected for 4th term in a race his opponents claim was marred by fraud he ran for a 4th term after contesting a referendum upholding term limits stepped down soon after accepting the Organization of American States call for new elections and changed a morality spoke in Mexico let me get to see this in a minute I also want to tell you brothers and sisters as long as I am alive we will stay in politics as long as I'm alive the fight will continue and we're sure that the people of the world have all the rights to free themselves violences departure has sparked demonstrations and clashes across Bolivia and the past Tuesday a supporter. Trip to the streets and it was a good I mean teleporter remember the opposition will never be able to govern as ever more I was history it hurts us everywhere I was was our leader. Mr love you are able to build the list or shouldn't there's a dozen or more we host a debate on the political crisis in Bolivia and the powers we're joined via democracy now video strand by public salon former ambassador to the United Nations under President Avon morale essential 2011 he's former chief negotiator on climate change for Bolivia and in Amherst Massachusetts we're joined by Kevin young assistant professor of history at University of Massachusetts Amherst is the author of Blood of the earth resource nationalism revolution and empire in Bolivia Young is also the editor of making the revolution histories of the Latin American left we welcome them both to Democracy Now let's begin in Bolivia with published alone can you do you describe what happened as a coup. I think it's very complicated. Because I think there was a popular rebellion coups this issue started in this house and 16 when it will more or less didn't recognize the result of a refer to them that said that he couldn't run for a new reelection if he would have respected that referendum he would have finished his 3rd term as probably the best president. But she didn't do. The force the constitutional criminal. Did the statement saying that it was a human right to run for new elections and then we have the elections of the 28th of October we're. They were there was definitely fraud. We have so many evidences here so let me reports from different institutions not only or say it that of course the population went to the streets it was massive. And it has lasted for 20 days so. To say this is a. Plan by the White House the right to force fascist forces I think it's to make a caricature of what is really happening now who's going to take advantage of the situation are going to be writing forces is going to be. Purely social North America but who created this crisis I think was this addiction to power that it will more or less and his party began to happen during the last years . I'd like to ask a Kevin Young to deal with the same issue of whether this was a coup or not and also to deal with the reality that the majority in the Congress is still of the is a political party of ever more dollars So to what degree can whoever becomes president be able to. Move forward with the political agenda given the enormous strength still of the other when I was forces in the country a coup has a simple and straightforward definition it's the unconstitutional remove or a sitting president before that president's term in office is up and in the case of Bolivia Marley's is elected president his term is in do up until January 21st of 2020. In this case on Sunday you have the lead commander of the believe in armed forces directly intervening in or in ordering a vote out of office so that's a coup and I think that's that's pretty straightforward that shouldn't be controversial what makes this coup particularly dangerous is that it is being supported by the most racist and reactionary elements in Bolivian society now as well as by the United States now all of that being said the overall political situation in Bolivia is complex all of the opposition is not the same the opposition is not monolithic there are opposition protesters who are much more progressive many indigenous groups working class Bolivians have become very disillusioned with the government and have turned against it so those voices are important to recognize we shouldn't be painting the entire opposition with the same brush or insinuating that it's all some conspiracy by the United States but at the same time it is important to recognize as well that almost half of the Bolivian population voted for even more of these on October 20th and whether you think that's 47 percent as the government said or maybe it's only 46 or 45 percent The fact remains that almost half of Bolivians still supported Evo on October 20th and those voices also need to be counted and recognized they may have criticisms of the government many of them do and I know some of them but they're not supporting the coup because they fear that a right wing government is really going to roll back some of the progressive gains that have been made in the last 13 years in an immediate sense they're fearful of right wing violence in the streets which is happening in which is targeting particularly Indigenous Bolivians now what's going to happen with the Congress because. Despite the fact that many must legislators and officials have resigned sometimes on. Threat of violence from the right it is still true that a majority of the Congress is controlled by the mass party they have signalled they have said that they are interested in finding a constitutional resolution to the crisis now what exactly that's going to look like is still very unclear it's not clear what new elections are going to look like or under what conditions they're going to be held the mass party is somewhat in disarray the last several days so we really don't know what's going to happen at this point. So long I wanted to ask you about this. This issue of. Dollars had agreed as a result of the protests industries and the recommendation of the Organization of American States to hold new elections so should the opposition have at least waited until his term was up until new elections were held. Before attempting to remove him completely and also the issue of the military the military are the one hand said they were not going to intercede when the police officers began rebelling against the government but then has interceded joined the police in attempting to quell the protests of Madama supporters. Ok so the 1st thing ever more a. Call to new elections he said he was going to quote you actions and he said he was going to change the electoral Cork which meant that he agree that the Electoral Court was involved in some case fraud in the elections on the 28th of October because. I mean. Ever more I didn't say I called with elections and I respect the electoral court no I will change it because the evidence were too big. There was fraud and of course you have in the population let the writing force of the population set what So you're saying that merely actions with a new electoral court means that there was fraud and fraud is something that you cannot accept it's a crime so you cannot say Ok well you know there was fraud now I'm going to call for a new elections nothing happened in Bolivia now I guarantee you that everything is going to be Ok it's impossible. And what happened did the military do crew. And went out to the streets that day and force it will moralities No they said we're not going to. Go out to the street the situation is terrible people don't accept nearly actions after you are recognizing that there was a straw on it that is what they said and we suggest that you the sun and they didn't went out to the streets. And everywhere else why did he resign my point is he resigned because he was not able to sustain the this is this idea that the elections of the 20th of October were were clean and if they weren't clean he was involved because you cannot do that fraud without the involvement of the government. So he resigned and he went to it because he thought that his risk nation was going to create an upright bass because it's true what. The other person says he has the support of more than 40 percent of the population and he was suspecting that there would be an uprising and then the sector will mobilize but then what happened there was that mobilization but that mobilization was the next of supporters of Muslims but also of Vandalia groups that began to x.r. Burn there were more than 70 buses of the public. Services here a law passed that would burn drug stores. And it was the 9th the night of Sunday and Monday was terror in many cities and the police the police stations began to be attacked by this combination of mass supporters of the political party of the government in what's called and this one Delhi groups. So the police was was not able to turn to to to to stop these neighborhoods began to organize to defend themselves not only in routine areas but also in poor areas at that moment the police said we need to have the support of the military to to start this this violence. This banned groups and you had the military coming out I'm not in favor of that but downs are the facts and then you had the military come into the streets and you have seen they have to intervene and in places where there are groups. But for example yesterday we had a big mass demonstration from a lot can we bring in Kevin Young your response to the description a bubble so long what's going on. Sure so I do want to briefly address the question of the October 20th elections there is this widespread narrative that's been uncritically embraced in the media in the United States that there was a fraud in the October 20th elections and that's largely based on the preliminary audit of the Organization of American States which was released this past weekend which does contain allegations of widespread irregularities on the other hand we have the authoritative report from the Center for Economic and Policy Research which last week released a detailed study of the October 20th election and found that there was no evidence of fraud or at least if there were regularities there was no evidence that they were decisive in determining the outcome now is it possible that there were regularities absolutely I'm not denying that but as you said one. November 10th earlier in the day actually offered to hold new elections as a major concession to the protesters he even offered to replace the entire electoral monitoring body and I don't see that I disagree with Pablo here I don't see that as necessarily an admission of fraud I see it more as a concession that was intended to keep the peace but the fact is that the opposition most of them didn't want new elections because they doubted that they could be a vote at the at the ballot boxes they wanted a coup and that's exactly when the military steps in and orders able to leave now I agree with Pablo that the situation on the streets is extremely concerning there's there is violence being committed not only by the right but also by. Many My supporters who are. Just really terrified of what's going to happen so the situation is complex it shouldn't be reduced to simple good versus bad or or . 1st is right but that doesn't change the fact that this was a coup it's a complex situation and it's a coup with some popular support but it's still a crew problem are you concerned about you know the woman who just declared herself president saying she's bringing the Bible into government opposition protesters kidnapping mayor Patricia are say that Mayor loyal to morale less forcibly cutting her hair dousing her with red paint parading her through the streets and then you have for example the. Louis Fernando Camacho who is the far right multimillionaire who rose many say out of fascist movements in Bolivia saying put your mamma will never return to the palace Bolivia belongs to Christ Well 1st let me answer you are not right before we had t.v. Reports we were able to see different reports from the voting places were they were were they teach signatures change figures numbers Oh yes didn't create it is because of that they had to see the evidence that we have here and you have other reports before the always report 2nd thing. That we're not. One excuse me I mean because you say it is a coup. Meetings the military went out to the streets while you were morale is when ever more other side said this is a coup from the police and this he didn't want to mention the military now going to your question we're going to have to go to that question and part 2 of us discussion I want to thank publish salon former ambassador to the u.n. Under President Evo Morales until 2011 and Kevin Young professor at University Massachusetts Amherst and many good men with Lang and Silas. You are listening to me 88.7 f.m. From Alamosa Colorado to challenge New Mexico 98.7 f.m. And to watch it also streaming online dot org. 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Today on wings changing the minds and behavior of India's dear boy. On Hey I. Hadn't really. Welcome to the wings a series of news and current affairs programs by and about women around the world produced and distributed by the Women's International news gathering service. And 2017 police in Kolkata India. I started a program called Dear boys to influence boys and one through 12th grades to treat girls and women with more respect and fairness Koppen a product on our wins reporter in Kolkata collected sound and interviews she started with the founder of the project psyche saying Gupta. So shopping. In me in the beginning holds gamey of money actually it does always be in the bottle for the discussion in college among friends and teachers the violence is coming from the men so if you do not have to address men then how can this problem be you know I'm going to work on this problem so it is something that needs to be discussed Oh really it's men and I we always believe that you know the younger the better because it's easier to insurance and you know more after a younger age and they should understand this straight from a young age you know younger children react more positively they are more accepting when I was doing the sessions with the children it was not specifically addressed forward only boys it was for girls and boys and young children and the reason I prepared this project and approached the local got the police because I think it does important that as specially a law enforcing agency supports it it becomes more acceptable people accepted so I'm glad that we got the political parties the like the idea and they have accepted it and therefore we could you know to this project Thank you. Thank you I have experienced the rapid social transformation and economic growth but did the fires in India continue to leave me we missed opportunities and widespread private's for sons leads through selective abortion of female fetuses and discrimination in education needed.