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[ applause ] people get very giftconscious on days like this, and i want to thank the lady from the audience who left the longstemmed american beauty in my dressing room. [ laughter ] although your daughter seems like a nice girl, i cant get her on the show. You were ahead of me, werent ya . [ laughter ] by the way, if youre out here as tourists especially today and you [ applause ] welcome. All right. And if youre up on hollywood boulevard and you see a man walking along dressed as cupid, that does not mean its valentines day, thatthat means its murray. He dresses that way every single day. [ laughter ] well, maybe he doesnt. [ laughter ] love is in the air today. Valentines day. And remember, before you fall head over heels on love with someone you just met, remember [ laughter ] [ applause ] i always Wax Nostalgic on valentines day, and ii which i do occasionally. I wax several days, but especially on valentines day. I think of my youth back on the plains of nebraska and my very first girlfriend. She was an italian girl, gina statutory. [ laughter ] ill never forget the first time i saw gina in school. She was starring in a hygiene film called dont let this happen to you. [ laughter ] lovely girl. [ laughter ] the, uh, farmer that lives at do youdo you still send valentines day cards . Is that still a thing to do . [ applause ] sure. Remember the ones you made as kids with the little lace around them. The farmer that lives next door to billy carter sent billy a valentines day card that says, roses are red, violets are thanks to you. [ laughter ] [ applause ] you know i mentioned that day today is the 50th anniversary of the st. Valentines day massacre. Remember that . In chicago . In remembers that in remembrance of that date, nbc lined all the members of its Programming Department up against a wall today and machinegunned them. [ laughter ] its kind of an inhouse joke, and i think we should probably keep that in the house. [ laughter ] california governor jerry brown sent his girlfriend, Linda Ronstadt, a little valentines day poem. Is there a theres a fly buzzing around [ laughter ] this monologue is starting to spoil. [ laughter ] [ applause ] its turning bad right here. What did i start to say . What was i talking about . Jerry brown sent Linda Ronstadt are red, violets are blue, i love you, pretty lady, but i am more in love with 1980. [ laughter ] which wasnt as funny as the guy sent billy carter. Well, i know youre all anxious to find out whats the latest in the lee marvinmichelle triola trial. For those of you who missed the papers today, i want to keep you up to date on these important events. Apparently today, michelle triolas trial would not allow michelles lawyer to sue. She he wanted to sue for an additional one Million Dollars. Now mrs. Triolas lawyer, whos a fellow by the name of marvin mitchelson, claimed that when lee marvin said, i love you, and then said he didnt mean it, that is fraud. [ laughter ] look, Everybody Knows when a man says, i love you, it is not fraud, its temporary insanity. [ laughter ] [ applause ] [ laughter ] Important News out of the way, we can go to iran and see whats happening over there. Theythey just opened their first soft drink factory over there, since the new government took over. Its called the ayatollah cola. [ laughter ] and its, uh it gives gas to everyone but americans. [ laughter ] [ applause ] its really great. Yeah. Uh, the president is off to mexico, as you know. And, uh oh, hes already there. As a matter of fact, uh, president portillo of mexico took president carter on kind of a sightseeing trip, and the mexican president showed jimmy carter the home of the former bandit pancho villa. And carter was so impressed he said, when portillo comes here, hes gonna show him the home of bert lance. [ laughter ] [ applause ] carter just doesnt say things funny. Did you ever notice that . [ laughter ] you realize, of course, while the president is out of the country, the acting president is walter mondale. [ applause ] well oh now here are some of the important things that walters accomplished since carter went to mexico. He, uh he oiled the swivel chair in the oval office so he could swivel without squeaking. He, uh, called the maytag repair man and said, what do you do to kill a day . [ laughter ] and he called, uh, brezhnev brzezinski and told him to keep his hands off of rodeo drive. [ laughter ] between carter and mondale, its been a political wipeout tonight. [ laughter ] moving along to the sports news. See i jump from one subject to another. It doesnt if one thing doesnt work, we keep plunging ahead. Former ohio state football coach, woody hayes, is in town. And hes here to discuss the possibility of a movie based on his life. I understand this afternoon woody is up at graumans chinese theater, where they pressed [ laughter ] [ applause ] but, uh but i understand hes like any other tourist. He stopped along sunset boulevard you know, one of those guys on the street and bought a map of the stars throats. [ laughter ] well, we didnt. Who cares . Heres the strange news item of the day. Women have found according to a news item in the los angeles times, women have found that Birth Control pills in the soil will stimulate the growth of their houseplants. [ laughter ] thats dont ask me why, but it also enables your petunias to pollinate without fear of morning sickness. [ laughter ] which is a side effect. We have a, um a pretty good show tonight, dont we . Yes. What . Yes yes, we do. Be enthusiastic. [ laughter ] charlton its a great show, john. What . Its a fine show. Not just a good show. Its a fine show. Charlton heston is here tonight, [ applause ] korean comic johnny yune, blair brown, and jack douglas. [ applause ] [ music ] well be right back. [ applause ] [ music ] [ applause ] we are back. Crowds in a good mood tonight. We got a good show. Chuck heston, johnny yune, blair brown, and jack douglas is with us tonight. Jack douglas if you dont know who jack is hes one of the crazed writers who has written for every top comedian in the business and, uh, he always uses brings some, uh, home movies. Which are the wildest home movies you have ever seen. They make absolutely no sense at all. But jack will tell you what is happening or not happening during them. Uh, from time to time as you know, doc travels around the country and tommy, for various things, and other guys in the band. And tommy is gonna be tommy newsom im talking about. Beaumont, texas, february the 22nd for the premiere of his composition. He wrote a composition for the beaumont texas Symphony Orchestra and jazz band. And tommys gonna be down there to conduct that and also play with the group. [ applause ] congratulations, tommy. Great. February the 22nd. [ applause ] you be a good old boy when youre down there, tom. Well, this is the time of the year, as you know its only its only what . February . Umhmm. And already the, uh the networks are planning their new Television Shows for the fall season. Its been rather a tough season for television. Its a tough, competitive business, because every as you know, last sunday all the networks programmed three big shows opposite each other. Gone with the wind, cuckoos nest, an elvis special. And a lot of shows get knocked off the air before they get a chance. Nbc did over 50 pilots themselves, and, uh, im gonna give you i dont think these are all nbc pilots, the ones im gonna tell you about. But these are the actual names of new shows coming up or theres a show called the gray panther express. Do you have any idea what thats about . Old people. It deals with the adventures of old people or senior citizens, they say. Ive never liked that word. No. Elderly people. At a retirement home. Father brown is about a middleaged priest preoccupied with detective work. [ whistles ] i dont understand some of these at all. Ifr is an institute staffed by volunteers who help victims get nonviolent revenge. [ laughter ] i think its called ifr. I think its the International Force for retaliation or something. Golden gun. The saga of a hero on a white horse who fights off the bad men. [ laughter ] [ whistles ] that sounds original. Sloan of the secret service. Its about an art dealer whos actually a james bond type of agent who, like his pop before him his pop is chief operative of a secret government to the president. Jackies girls deals with femme flyers in world war ii who perform missions on both sides of enemy lines. How many lady flyers did you know in world war ii . [ laughter ] not too many. Theres a show called harper and company. Its about four men in a club med type resort who team to solve crimes. Doctors and nurses deals with the lives and relationships of doctors and nurses. [ laughter ] oh. And is done with humor. Where hijinks often ensue, probably. Heres one. Whodunnit . Yes. Now guesthosted by ed mcmahon. Yes. Its an american version of a British Comedy quiz show. Yes. Ah, thats going on in the fall . Apparently, yeah. [ applause ] ahha. Youre the only one who got a hand. [ laughter ] doctors and nurses got nothing. Ed got a hand. Heres one here. Every stray dog and kid is gets out of prison and adopts six teenage boys. [ sigh ] these are for real folks. Crash island deals with a plane which crashes over a mysterious uncharted island where the survivors set up a makeshift society. Heres one. I dont wanna miss this. Blue collar deals with a house painter whose family includes his wife and five children. [ laughter ] how can you get 13 weeks out of a guy painting a house . [ laughter ] good time harry is about a newspaper man who is a rogue who returns to his native San Francisco trying to get back the job from which he was fired. Gossip is a gang comedy thats what they call it taking place in the office of the national gossip, about a couple of newsmen trying to make a go of the publication. Yu. I think this has to do with johnny yune, doesnt it . This is spelled yu. About a korean detective who works in the Beverly Hills area while working as a comedian as a cover. [ laughter ] that has to do with the young man who is with us tonight, johnny yune. Now heres one. This is my favorite. When i read this one king tuts best friend. [ laughter ] this is about an 11yearold boy who gets a pyramid for his birthday and travels back in time to egypt where he befriends king tut. [ laughter ] sure, you laugh, but thats going on, folks. Well, now. If youre laughing at those for every pilot that is made that goes on, there are probably 30 or 40 that do not make it at all. We have some stills, some photographs, from some of these unsuccessful new shows. Never before seen. Never before seen. And these shows probably will not be on the air. Unless well, unless some of those others yeah. Like the house painter doesnt make it. You watch the monitor. For example, heres a heres one about a new detective series called lieutenant columbo [ laughter ] its about a detective who arrests criminal animals. [ laughter ] here we see lieutenant columbo busting a tortoise who was caught smuggling in 200 pounds of columbian lettuce. [ laughter ] a new show called three is enough. [ laughter ] a situation comedy about a mother and father who have never allowed their son to go to school or to have a job. Here we see the son about to face his first challenge in life walking downstairs and getting the mail. [ laughter ] heres a show a new show called the fat angels. [ laughter ] they, uh they solve any crime that involves stolen food. [ laughter ] and in its very first episode, they sit on a taco bell stickup man and crush his enchiladas. [ laughter ] from the studio that brought you hello, larry comes goodbye, helga. About a girl who works in her here you see helga just as she was caught making an obscene proposal to a jimmy dean pork sausage. [ laughter ] a new show were getting back to the old musical shows. Uganda city music hall. [ laughter ] musical variety show which features the precision dancing of ugandan chorus girls led by their choreo choreographer, idi amin. [ laughter ] here they are at the end of the cancan number, where they kick a missionary to death. This could be [ laughter ] from the producers of the six Million Dollar man comes another super hero, graffiti man. [ laughter ] he has only made love once in his life to a bearded lady. On his back, he has the phone number of every easy woman in buffalo, new york. [ laughter ] he makes 60 a week sitting at a mens room in an iowa truck stop. [ laughter ] greatest crimes of the century. [ laughter ] here you see psychopathic criminal gary o shaughnessy, up on innocent ladies and stealing the tongues out of their shoes. [ laughter ] hes didnt get on. [ laughter ] laverne and mildred. [ laughter ] this shows about two elderly women who work for a brewery in milwaukee. Here we see them on saturday night taking turns wearing a dead stray dog around their necks. [ laughter ] thats why youre groaning, then. It didnt make it. Way back stairs at the white house. [ laughter ] here we see the servants about to protest what billy carter did to a bush in the rose garden and youve seen love boat where love blossoms on a cruise ship and super train where adventures occur across a crosscountry train . Now comes action closet. [ laughter ] all romance takes place inside a janitors storage closet. Here you see the despondent janitor hanging himself because his eureka vacuum cleaner refused to put out. [ laughter ] weird. I know. The gladiator game. Um, you can see how long you can last inside a hungry lions cage wearing hamburger scented deodorant. [ laughter ] birthday billy. A new show. Billy makes a living counting birthday candles for very stupid children. [ laughter ] each week he goes to a different house. Candid surgery. A series where Beverly Hills plastic surgeons are shown on hidden camera operating on unsuspecting patients. Here you see the gabor sisters just before their facelifts. [ laughter ] so cruel. What is this one here . Ah because of the success of the movie superman, they came out with a tv pilot called super slob. [ laughter ] by day, a mildmannered reporter. At night, he becomes the man of cholesterol. His xray vision allows him [ laughter ] the little tramps. [ laughter ] a series about midget hookers who prey on sailors who have 24minute shore leave. [ laughter ] and look, these are these are not all winners, but thats why im showing these to you. Another spinoff of the movie animal house. This one called animal car. In this episode, titled moon express, [ laughter ] the beta phis attempt to ruin a chevrolets seat upholstery. That thats what they do. [ laughter ] and thats why they didnt get on. [ applause ] didnt make it. They didnt make it. Didnt make the schedule. [ laughter ] okay. [ applause ] well be back with chuck heston, johnny yune, blair brown, and jack douglas [ applause ] [ music ] [ applause ] thank you, doc. List of new shows that i was talking about, this young gentleman is going to have one of those. Its called sergeant tku, and, uh, hes from korea. He made his, uh started with us on the tonight show. We found him playing a comedy place called the horn in santa monica, and hell be opening at the Las Vegas Hilton with Steve Lawrence and eydie gorme march 6th for three weeks. And, uh, his new series is going to be aired soon. Would you welcome, please, johnny yune. Johnny . [ music ] [ applause ] herro. [ laughter ] im a comedian from korea. You know, in korea, i was a very boring guy. But in america, i play backgammon, and i hang out at discotheques, and i know my sign. [ laughter ] now im boring in two countries. I come from a poor family. You know, my parents couldnt afford to have electricity and they used to feed me and my brother garlic so they could find us in the dark. [ laughter ] ever since i was a little kid, i always want to come to america, and i learned a little bit about america. And i admire president George Washington most. One of the reasons is that, um, he never blamed his problems on the previous administration. [ laughter ] [ applause ] lincoln. I love lincoln. I couldnt wait till i come to this country and drive one. [ laughter ] but i now i live in hollywood. Hollywoods been very good to imported shirt. They all from korea. [ laughter ] did you ever reach into your pocket and pull out a little piece of paper that says, inspected by number 14 . Thats my brother. [ laughter ] and hollywood is tough, also. You know, when i become an american citizen, i wanted to get rid of my accent. So i went to speech teacher. I said, how can i get rid of my accent fast . He said, go back to korea. [ laughter ] [ applause ] you know, it took me six months to get my agent. When i first met him, he said, what do you do . I said, im a comedian. He said, comedians are a dime a dozen. I said, but im different. Im an oriental. Then why didnt you say so. [ laughter ] and i just bought pair of siamese cat, and i paid 375 just because they got the most beautiful blue eyes. I pet them on their head, their contacts fell out. [ laughter ] and i also bought lots of plants. And my friends told me if i talk to plants, theyll grow taller and fast. And i been talking to my plants. [ speaking korean ] [ laughter ] they turn yellow. [ laughter ] [ applause ] [ applause ] [ laughter ] now i have one plant left. A venus fly trap. It ate my zipper. [ laughter ] you know, i, um im kind of excited about new friendly relationship between america and red china. But, you know, uh, i have one thing that i dont understand. I read an article in a magazine that says, um, chin china is buying american xrated movies for Sex Education for chinese people. Now a country with 950 Million People need a Sex Education . [ laughter ] they dont need a Sex Education. What they need is food. In fact, the chairman mao was wrote a letter to, uh, russia asking for help. Send us grains, were starving. Russia replied, were sure of grains for ourselves. Tighten your belts. Mao replied, send us belts. [ laughter ] you know [ laughter ] you know, because of this new situation between america and red china, russia is a little bit worried, because they feel that theyre being isolated and they decided to go easy on things. And, for the first time in history in russia, they decided to give russian People Freedom of speech. In fact, recently, russian newspaper pravda ran a contest for best political jokes. First prize got 20 years. [ applause ] but, you know, its impossible to understand politics. I dont worry about it. Im very happy living in america. And im a single guy, you know. In fact, i went to singles bar the other night. I met a girl and she said to me, you know, i have never made love to a korean guy. I said, me too. [ laughter ] thank you. [ music ] [ applause ] good to see you again. Well take a break. Well be right back. [ applause ] [ music ] [ applause ] doc. Were talking with johnny yune. And we have charlton heston, blair brown, and jack douglas with us. In korea, right . Yes. When did you first come here . 1962. 62. You know, youre one of the few well, youre the only korean comedian i think i, uh, ive ever known. And the only other oriental i can remember isis pat morita. Yes. Who, uh who does comedy. Are there are there other successful oriental comedians who have made that transference to this country . Uh, not that i know of. Yeah. Do they now this still seems like a silly question. Obviously, they have comedians in korea. Yeah, but you see, uh, its a tough job. Yeah. [ laughter ] becausebecause of the political situation and what you can say . Yes, because, you see, wh uh, where i come from, um, when you laugh at someone, its an insult. [ laughter ] so, um i see. If you laugh, thats insulting. And also you have to be careful what you say. Because of the political, uh, situation there . Yes. Yeah. Politics is a very, uh, very strange game, and i can never understand politics, you know . Nobody understands it really. Like, uh, sometimes you become hero, sometimes you like, uh, ii dont know if you remember the, uh, korean politician korean rights leader, chungshin pak . Oh, yes. You know, hes back in korean now. Hes a hero in korea, as a matter of fact. And they want to come out with a chungshin pak sandwich. Yeah, you eat it under the table. [ laughter ] now, who did now, if some comedian did a joke like that in korea yes. What would happen . [ laughter ] in korea. Well, i will never s i mean, its very difficult for me to say whats going to happen. But they wouldnt find that amusing . Oh, uh they wouldnt find that not really. Uh, well, theyll have to learn about the comedy. Right. Sooner or later. Because youll have to catch up with the rest of the world. Right. You cant live all by yourself like china. Even china has open opened the door. Right. Now you cant remain communist. Ii tell you, you know, politics always mixed me up, because i read an article in l. A. Times. This is an article it said, in capitalism, man exploits man. In communism, it is the other way around. [ laughter ] confusing. Yeah. It confused me, you know . Like, uh, i truthfully i lived under communism once. Right. And i know what communism is. I mean, i used to sing through my nose because i was so afraid to open my mouth. [ laughter ] and in communist country, you dont watch television, because television watches you. Yeah, thats a whole different thing. And, i remember, my father said, uh uh, ill never forget this. A communist is someone who has nothing and willing to share it with you. [ laughter ] did your whole family come to this country in 61 . No. Iim still all by myself. Yeah. How did you decide to make the move . I dont think i ever asked you this. Well, i came as a, uhuh, Exchange Student. Yes, i went to i was in the university. Did you speak any english poquito. [ laughter ] un poquito. Youre obviously from south korea. Yes. Yes. Un poquito. [ laughter ] your show, tku, was supposed to have premiered a little earlier, right . Then it was preempted by what was that called . Yes. It was scheduled to be on the air last january 24th and it got preempted by, um, uh, Republican Senate minority leaders speaking against mr. President s union address. And they didnt realize that Senate Minority was killing this minority. [ laughter ] thats right. Youre a minority. Youre a minority too. So, uh, its due on coming up, uh, coming up soon . Yeah, well, they tried nbcs doing their best to, uhuh, get it on the air late part of march. Yeah. And i hope i get the air date soon. You play a detective. And, uh moonlights as a comedian. Uh, yeyes. You understand moonlighting . Moonlight . An extra im not related the reverend moon. No, no. [ laughter ] moonlighting means an, uhuh, extra job. Kind of a cover. Yes. Im a Korean Exchange detective, and, um [ laughter ] from Exchange Student to yeah. And i, you know, i moonlight as a comedian when im off duty. Right. Now everybody assumes because somebody is an oriental and is a detective, you are skilled in the martial arts. Whether its kungfu or karate or jujitsu or any of that. Oh, i know kung fu. Did you did you study that . I once step in it. No, no. Not that. [ laughter ] [ applause ] ill just sit here and play straight for you. [ laughter ] do do you use any of the, uh i yeah, i studied aikido . Is there is that another one . No. I studied koreans study the art called taekwondo under the master jun chong on wilshire boulevard. Really . Yeah. Youre not making this up now . And then, uh, i dont what was that art . What is that martial art . Taekwondo. Thats the korean style of karate. Ah. And i can protect myself from, uh, especially like, uh, a flasher. [ laughter ] yes. You know, its very easy. Like, the ladies who when youre a flasher, you protect yourself like you know, flasher opens like this . Yeah. And then you go. [ screaming ] [ laughter ] oh, yes. Well, that would do it, all right. You know, you surprised everybody on this you surprised everybody on this show one night, because you were sitting here and you sang you said you had just sung at a bar mitzvah or Something Like that. [ laughter ] or you or didnt you get up and do aa yiddish song . Yes, i did a hebrew song once here. Yeah, a hebrew song. And you have this beautiful singing voice. Thank you. And we ask tonight if youll do something for us, because youyou sing beautifully. I would love to. Youd like to do something . [ applause ] but, uh, i can i can only sing the song that my mother used to sing it for me. Is that all right . Sure. Sure. [ applause ] [ music ] [ singing in italian ] [ laughter ] [ music ] [ music ] [ applause ] thank you. Thank you. [ applause ] really good. [ laughter ] yeah. Thank you. [ applause ] youve come up you come up with more surprises. Next time in french. Okay . [ laughter ] you have it. Okay. Well take a break. Chuck heston is with us. [ applause ] [ music ] [ applause ] were back. This book im holding is called the actors life which is a an illuminating account of Charlton Hestons career and a commentary on some 20 years of moviemaking. Chuck opens this friday here at the Ahmanson Theatre in one of the great plays, a man for all seasons. Would you welcome, please, [ music ] [ applause ] are you ready to go . Now i want to make one thing clear from the start youre ready for a game anytime, arent ya . Nope. Now you know perfectly well i do not come on the Johnny Carson show in jogging suit. I just came from a matinee and, as soon as i finish, im going to eat my sandwich and go back to the theatre and do the evening preview. Thats right. And this is the kind of thing you wear, uh thats right. Between shows. You are now in the preview rehearsals. But im not putting down the johnny i wear a tie, dont i . I know that. Okay. Just so we got that all squared away. Just thought you were ready for a knowingknowing how much you love tennis, i figured youre just ready any time. Yeah. That too. Yeah, im glad to see you. I have not seen you since the night, as you know a few weeks ago, i mced a dinner for the march of dimes for your good friend, greg peck and george burns was on the stage. It was the jack benny memorial award. And you were supposed to be there, but you had aa rather not only were you involved in the play rehearsals, uh, but that was the day, if you remember it in the news, that a rather disturbed lady, uh oh, yes. Had hijacked a plane and in new york and had demanded to see a couple of people in the Motion Picture industry. Your name was one of them. I think jack lemmon was another. Jack lemmon. Yup. It was something to the effect that there had been a note left in a twa terminal that was the proposed scenario. Turned out not to be the case, but and you were supposed to you were supposed to go there and read this to the nation or something. Whatwhatwhats the story . Well, i didnt mind that so much, but as we were the fbi fellows came and picked me up at the rehearsal down at the ahmanson. And, as we were racing up the free up to lax, why they handed me a bulletproofed vest. [ laughter ] and that made me a little nervous. [ laughter ] but i must say, um cause they didnt know that thered be some conspiracy or something. Yeah. Theythey thought they said we have to point out to you that now, of course, i really did nothing but sit there for six hours while the fbi negotiators talked to the lady on the airplane and on the ground at kennedy. But at the same time, you put yourself in a in a certain amount of jeopardy. Lets be honest. Well, it was nothing i really made no contributions, johnny. Honest. Honest to pete. But i did it did give me an opportunity that i think was valuable to me. I would have sent a guest host if theyd have called me. Yeah. [ laughter ] [ applause ] not that im chicken, but i think i would have called David Brenner or john davis and said, hey, guys. How would you like to go out to lax in a bulletproof burt reynolds. Why not . Yeah. Dont tell me you werent a little bit concerned now. You gotta be in those things. Well, a little bit. But, uh, those fellas are very they know their business, dont they . They know what theyre doing. And at a time when the fbi has come under a lot of criticism from people with varying degrees of qualification to criticize right. It was interesting to sit the dedication, intelligence, moderation, and responsibility with which they ran the whole thing. And as a from my situation, involved in it and as a taxpayer, i was impressed. Right. The end of that thing wasnt they never yeah. [ applause ] once in a while its not bad to, uh the end result of that entire thing thethethe note was never found, as i understand, at all. Or any anything to re no. Thethe ladys story that there were accomplices at lax waiting with a note and with undisclosed instructions for me to read a message to the world were an invention, but yeah. Uh, of course, they had to take it as was her statement that she had nitroglycerin in her purse. Youd have to assume, uh but you have to assume yeah. It was a very testy situation to be in. Um, that it worked out. I think another member of our profession deserves some credit too. On the plane. And he was right in the middle of it, and he entertained the passengers by playing his guitar, well, to keep them cause they sat on the ground for, uh, quite a number of hours. Oh, six hours. Without really informing them of what was going on. I think they told them, so as not to, uh, disturb them, that they theo theo paid his dues. And he got up and thats great. I didnt know that. Of course, i talked to him on the phone. He said, what are you gonna do . He said, if i had been a doctor, i would have gone around taking everybodys blood pressure. [ laughter ] supposed to do. Yup. And thank you for coming tonight, because i know youre in rehearsals for aa very tough play. Well, its tough, johnny, but its so such a rich piece to work on. A man for all seasons is theres been no it was written in 1959. Robert bolt, right . Theres been no play written since, i swear, that comes close to it. It is a more Meaningful Play now than it was when it was done, when Paul Scofield created the part. Went on to do it brilliantly on film, but right. Its a test for an actor too, isnt it . Its a test for an actor, and an audience. Yeah. Ii did a matinee. It was im not tired. Im looking forward to the evening. Im looking forward to the run. Its a rich, rich piece. Good. When it goes well and youve got the material, isnt it funny how all of a sudden its not tiring . But if youre in something that is not working, cause then youve gotta do all the work. Thats right. Let me interrupt a second. Well come back and talk about [ applause ] [ music ] [ applause ] were back. Were talking with, uh, chuck heston. You know, you were one of the one of the actors among others that i know that set aside aa certain time out of Motion Pictures to, uh, to play the boards, as they say. To go out in the theater, because its a stimulation. It gives you a chance to expand a little bit and, uh different kind of problem. Different kind of, uh, responsibility. And work at that craft of acting. Yeah. You bet. And very often a lot of people who are predominantly Motion Picture people are a little reluctant to do that because it kind of they feel that it opens up them to and critics have been as you know yeah. Over history have been almost supercritical of movie people who work legitimate stage. Even though that you have done this before. Does that bother you at all . Laying your self open to the critics . To say, okay. Heres chuck heston well. A couple of actors have asked me that. But all youre risking is your vanity, johnny. Right. And maybe thats a healthy thing to do every so often. I mean, whats going to happen . Ifif a critic doesnt like what i do, does that mean im not going to get a job or something . No. Of course not. No. And that doesnt mean that the audience or other people dont like it. Thats only one mans right. I remember the marvelous thing Laurence Olivier said to me once. I did a play with him some years ago and it was a flop. And then were commiserating with one another when the notices come in, and i said, well, i guess you have to learn to, uh, dismiss the bad notices. And he said, chuck. He said, thats easy. He said, what you have to do this is much more important is to learn to dismiss the good ones. Theres a lot in that. You always gotta read em. Yeah. Everybody is very quick to believe the flattering things about you, you know. Say, boy, that man is really right. Forget those too. If somebody says hes bad, they say, hey, hes crazy. Whats the nicest thing somebody has ever said about you asas a critic . Well, uh, i think the nicest, uh, review i ever had as an actor was not from a professional critic. But my second picture was a picture about the circus for cecil b. Demille. The greatest show on earth. Greatest show on earth. Sure. It won the academy award. Jimmy stewart, dorothy lamour, betty hutton, cornel wilde. They were all very good and the circus was marvelous and, you know. And mr. Demille showed me a letter after the picture after the academy awards, you know, and some woman had written to him and said how much shed liked the picture and how good betty hutton and jimmy were and everything. And she said, you know cause i played the circus manager, and she said, you know, that circus manager fit in very well with the real actors too. Thats you cant beat that. No. Thats the best notice ive ever had. That is sensational. Thats sensational. Yeah. That is sensational. Look, i know you have to go back. You have another preview performance tonight, and then officially you open for seven weeks . Seven weeks. Tomorrow. Seven weeks at the Ahmanson Theatre. I suppose youll do what . Seven shows a week . Uh, eight. Two on wednesday . Got two on, uh, wednesday. Two on saturday. And sundays off. Thats a full schedule. But its gonna be a rich time. I hope a lot of people i hope youll be able to come out, johnny. Id be delighted to come down. Okay. 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