The legend had some suggestions for playwright Kotori hall now well no sanitized version of my life you know I didn't been through some things in my old child yes you have but 1st this news live from n.p.r. News in Washington I'm Janine Herbst the f.b.i. Is investigating the mass shooting at the Pensacola Naval Base that left 4 people including the gunman dead as an act of terror the gunman a 21 year old Sodhi military pilot was on the base for training he was killed by law enforcement investigators are still searching for the reason for the attack while there are many reports circulating regarding the shooter's motivation and his alleged activities leading to his attack I can tell you that we are looking very hard and uncovering his motives and I would ask for patience so we can get this right Rachel Rojas is the f.b.i. Special agent in charge of the investigation and she says the handgun he used was purchased legally to Sherry committee chair Jerry now they are says lawmakers could vote on articles of impeachment against President Trump as soon as this week as N.P.R.'s Bobbie Allen reports most Democrats say abuse of power and obstruction of Congress are expected to be among the impeachment charges the Judiciary Committee is preparing for a Monday hearing on evidence gathered in a $300.00 page Intelligence Committee report it concluded that Trump put his personal political interest over the interest of the country Democrats say impeachment articles will likely focus on Trump's dealings with Ukraine and refusal to cooperate with Congress Republican lawmakers are asking for the process to be delayed to provide more time to review the evidence but now they are said on C.N.N.'s State of the Union that Democrats will press ahead all this presents a pattern that poses a real and present danger to the integrity of the next election which is one reason why we can't just wait for the next election to settle matters Democrats are still debating whether to include charges stemming from Special Counsel Robert Mueller his investigation Bobby Allen n.p.r. News Washington in Hong Kong a massive pro-democracy demonstration was held today but this time it was authorized organizers say some 800000 pro. Tester's attended but the police estimate is far lower Either way it was a huge turnout as Anne Marie Evans reports had a clear and mostly peaceful message to Beijing in 2 incidents in the early evening both the high court and the quarter final appeal had fires set at that entrances there was also some vandalism of shops but overall the protest was peaceful The turnout was a clear signal to chief executive Kerry lamb that the protesters want an independent investigation into alleged police brutality and steps to universal suffrage among other demands during the thing there were escalating tensions between launch groups of riot police facing off against Maust black clad antigovernment protesters and police cordoned off several streets but demonstrators then started to head home a rare peaceful protest in recent times for n.p.r. News I'm Ana Marie Evans in Hong Kong and you're listening to n.p.r. News from Washington. One of the most popular musicians of the year has died the fast rising young rapper juice world had what's being called a medical emergency at Chicago's Midway Airport early this morning N.P.R.'s honest this has more juice world born as Geraud Anthony Higgins was just 21 years old he had had a great year professionally and his fans loved his emotionally vulnerable songs in March the Emaar rapper hit number one on the Billboard 200 chart with his album Death Race For Love this week Spotify announced he was among the top 5 male artists streams in the u.s. In 2001000. He 1st came to mainstream recognition with the 2017 called Nothing's different and one of its songs lucid dreams went to number 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 Anasazi it so close n.p.r. News New York the weekend box office frozen 2 took the top spot for the 3rd weekend in a row with $34000000.00 An estimated ticket sales the Disney animated sequel has grossed more than $100000000.00 worldwide it will soon become the 6th Disney release this year to cross the $1000000000.00 mark in 2nd place the whodunnit knives out with $14000000.00 for vs Ferrari stayed in 3rd place with $6000000.00 this weekend the racing drama starring Matt Damon and Christian Bale has taken in $168000000.00 internationally and the romance Queen slim moved up to 4th place in its 2nd weekend with $6000000.00 I'm Janine Herbst And you're listening to n.p.r. News from Washington support for n.p.r. Comes from n.p.r. Stations other contributors include indeed with its skills tests built for employers who want to see the deeper sense of the person behind their resume learn more and indeed dot com slash n.p.r. 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News I'm Michel Martin we're going to begin this hour with a look ahead to what is likely to be another historic week in the nation's capital tomorrow the House Judiciary Committee will hold another impeachment hearing this time they'll hear from Democratic and Republican lawyers from the relevant committees who will give their respective parties views of the evidence this morning Judiciary Committee chairman Jerry NAVL or gave more information about the timeline saying to N.B.C.'s Meet the Press quote will bring articles of impeachment presumably before the committee at some point later in the week unquote If the house then votes to impeach President Trump the action would then move to the Senate for a trial and that's what we want to focus on now both sides seem to expect that the vote in the Senate will go straight down party lines with Democrats who are now in the minority voting to convict President Trump and the Republican majority voting to acquit Well 15 current g.o.p. Senators were serving in Congress back in 1998 some in the Senate others in the house during the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton and 14 of those senators voted to either impeach or convict Clinton now they're all expected to vote against a conviction for President Trump So what's changed that's the question I put to Ruth Marcus the deputy editorial page editor for The Washington Post she covered the Clinton impeachment hearings and when we spoke she started our conversation by describing how senators back in 1998 crossed party lines on impeachment most notably Susan Collins the Republican senator from Maine broke with her party then and said that while she might convict President Clinton were she to be a juror in a criminal trial she did not think what he did rose to the level of an offense for which he should be removed from the presidential office and so I think I want to say one thing that I think is really important to think of about the sort of constitutional situ. Lism that we're in here I think it's logical to say that you don't think that the allegations against President Clinton were serious enough to warrant his impeachment and removal from office they did not involve actions that went to the core of presidential abuse of authority I think it is a lot harder logical argument to make and to sustain to say that while we were all gung ho for President Clinton to be impeached and convicted and that what he did was so serious that he had to be driven from office but President trumped this is nothing let's move on I just have a hard time making that logical connection so you know we also saw this reversal with one of the expert witnesses who testified last week the legal scholar Jonathan Turley who made a point of saying that he's not is not a term supporter whether that's true or not how would we know but he was outspoken in his support for the impeachment of President Clinton in 1998 and he said this is what he testified he said that no matter how you feel that President Clinton and I'm going to quote here he said by his own conduct he has deprived himself of the perceived legitimacy to govern you need both political and legal which it ima see to govern unquote Now last week he cautioned Democrats not to impeach Trump on the basis of what he called scant evidence and I want to note here that some 500 legal scholars have signed a letter saying that President Trump committed impeachable conduct you've been following Jonathan Turley for 20 years and so I'd like to ask you what's changed here let me say 2 things his argument is that what President Clinton did actually fit the precise elements of criminal offense and you can't get to that with President trouble I don't think that's a convincing argument for his 2nd and actually more difficult argument is we don't have enough evidence here because we haven't heard from all the witnesses this is what I think of I think I mentioned Constitution situational ism earlier this is constitutional puts But right why don't we have this evidence we don't have this evidence because. The president of the United States is preventing us from obtaining this evidence so to argue that we shouldn't move forward with an impeachment or trial because we don't have the evidence that he's prevented us from getting is a little bit hard to take well to that point I mean part of his argument in 1908 was that President Clinton lied under oath and he persion him self the issue here is President Trump has refused to be under oath and he has ordered several of the key individuals here to refuse to testify how does a dispute like that get mediated Well 1st of all President Trump should do what all presidents before him have done which is to negotiate with Congress to try to make some testimony available under certain circumstances the 2nd solution would be to take this to court the problem with that is there is a countervailing pressure if you are going to impeach and if you are going to have a trial and convict even if you know the outcome it is better to do that if you're not bumping up against an election one of the cases during the George w. Bush administration involving whether his aides could be subpoenaed and required to testify did not get resolved until after he left office so that doesn't work very well in an impeachment inquiry so before we let you go what will you be watching for at tomorrow's hearing I'm not going to ask you from a public opinion standpoint I'm asking you from the standpoint of your expertise as both a lawyer and as a person who's weighing the evidence yourself 1st of all I'm thinking about whether to go broader whether to go narrow How much do you sweep in other non Ukraine related conduct on president trumps part the 2nd thing I'm looking at which is somewhat related to that is the argument about whether to delay or whether there's some prospect for obtaining testimony down the road because I'm really convinced that the public would be better off if it could get this testimony I just think there are countervailing arguments. About the need to proceed with swiftness and 3rd question that I've been grappling with is whether if you assume that the president's impeachment is a Fed accompli how should we think about the act of removing him from office and fundamentally given that we do have an election coming up how should we think about the constitutional remedy of impeachment as opposed to the constitutional provision for an election so those are the things that are going to be on my mind not just next week but I think for the next weeks to come that is Ruth Marcus She is deputy editorial page editor for The Washington Post she covered the Clinton impeachment hearings in 1980 and most recently she is the author of supreme ambition Brett Kavanaugh and the conservative takeover which is out now with Marcus thank you so much for joining us thanks for having me perhaps you read all 4 $148.00 pages of the mullah report about Russia and the Trump campaign and you still want more well another thick report lands Monday this one will focus on how the f.b.i. And the Justice Department conducted themselves during the early stages of the investigation into the Trump campaign in 2016 n.p.r. National security correspondent Greg Myre is here to give us a preview Greg thank you so much for joining us glad to be here so who ordered this report Well we don't know precisely what we do know is that Michael Horowitz who is the inspector general at the Justice Department has been spending a lot of the last 2 years looking into whether the f.b.i. Had legitimate reasons to go to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in October of 2016 and get a warrant to surveil Carter Page who's a foreign policy adviser was a foreign policy adviser during the Trump campaign page is only one part of the bigger picture but President Trump and many supporters often point to the Carter page case and say this was part of what they're calling the politically motivated which aren't Ok so since it's been a while since we 1st heard Carter Page's name could you just. Remind us how he fits into this right so he had a long history with Russia before he joined the Trump campaign but let's focus on the election year of 2016 in March Trump was visiting the Washington Post and he sort of offered some names of his foreign policy team any mention Carter Page who is by no means a household name and then in July few months later page travels to Moscow gives a commencement address there expresses opposition to u.s. Policy and u.s. Sanctions against Russia India also met with at least one Russian government official something he would deny for a while afterwards but as news reports came out about his Russian contacts in September he abruptly quit the campaign where he had a very limited role to begin with and then the f.b.i. Begins surveilling him for a year where they would have had access to his phone calls his e-mails his texts so one assumes that the Democrats and the Republicans have very different things that they're going to be looking for in this report because this has been the pattern all along their been looking for things to support competing narratives What do you think each side's going to be looking for here so the Democrats are hoping this report will show once again what they say is a very solid foundation for investigating Carter page and others and Trump's world who had Russian contacts so I spoke with Steve Harper a lawyer who's maintained this encyclopedic record of the Trump Russia timeline for the website just security dot org Here's what he had to say it it sounds like the report is likely to essentially say. That all of the all of the Trump and and Republican talking points for the last 3 years about Carter page and vice a warrants have been smoke smoke and mirrors and without any basis but Harper also says that Republicans are likely to find some ammo as well there's already media reports that the f.b.i. Or Justice Department may have cut a few corners in this process that a lawyer may have doctored an e-mail to support a renewal of the surveillance warrant so we should. 6 people in the Trump orbit have been convicted or pleaded guilty so far but Republicans may also point out that Carter page was closely monitored for a year and he's never been charged with a crime so what can you tell us about the inspector general at the Justice Department Michael Horowitz So he's been doing this job for 7 years and has had a number of high profile reports and has a strong reputation is serious thorough nonpartisan and Republicans of cheer some of his findings in the past just last year Horowitz was sharply critical of the former f.b.i. Director Jim Comey and the way that he handled Hillary Clinton's e-mail controversy during the 2016 campaign you know as you pointed out earlier we don't really know the origin of this report but having said that given that Michael Horowitz has been well respected in the past do you think this is going to be the final word on all these issues on the Russian Vesta geisha Well that is clear no it's not the last word Attorney General William Barr has ordered a separate investigation and this one is led by a federal prosecutor John Durham bar says this will also look into the origins of the Russian vest a geisha but he says it will be broader and it will examine the role of the CIA and others so stay tuned that is n.p.r. National security correspondent Greg Myre Greg thank you my pleasure. You're listening to All Things Considered from n.p.r. News. 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Is confirming it's investigating the deadly attack at the Pensacola Navy base Friday as an act of terror 4 people including the gunman a 21 year old Saudi military pilot died in India at least $43.00 people are dead after a fire swept through a handbag factory in a congested New Delhi neighborhood of already say an electrical short appears to be the cause and they are investigating whether the factor that was a factor in operating illegally the owner has been detained Chicago police are investigating the death of a 21 year old rapper juice world who died after what authorities say was a medical emergency at the airport he was named top New Artist at the 21000 Billboard Music Awards in May I'm Janine Herbst n.p.r. News in Washington. Support for n.p.r. 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Says a number of other Saudis also on the base that day are cooperating with the investigation N.P.R.'s Greg Allen has the latest from Pensacola The gunman identified as Mohammad Saeed Ronnie was at the Naval Air Station for flight training he was part of a group of trainees from Saudi Arabia one of more than $100.00 Asians whose military received training at u.s. Facilities for the 1st time the f.b.i. Agent in charge of the Pensacola investigation Rachel Rojas said it may be terrorism we are as we do in most active shooter investigations. Work with the presumption that this was an act of terrorism other officials have been less guarded today the president's national security adviser Robert O'Bryant said on c.b.s. The reports he's seen suggest the gunman may have been radicalized that looks like terrorism we'll have to see what the f.b.i. Investigation shows what his motivations were the Saudis have promised full cooperation with the investigation we're going to take them at their word the f.b.i. Says a number of other Saudis are training at the Naval Air Station including some who have close ties to the gunman none have been detained Rojas is under orders of their Saudi commander they've been restricted to a portion of the base and he says they're all cooperating with the investigation our main goal right now is to confirm whether he acted alone or was he a part of a larger network we currently assess there was one gunman who perpetrated this attack and no arrests have been made in this case this was the F.B.I.'s most extensive briefing since taking over the investigation Friday Rojas shared few details think she was concerned about misinformation but declined to go into specifics officials say they want to get the facts out to dispel rumors Rojas address one rumor that's kept local law enforcement busy worries that there could be another attack in Pensacola as we have stated multiple times our investigation has not led us to any information that indicates any credible threat to our community Rojas also said reports that authorities were still trying to locate Saudis who were training at the base were wrong I can report that the f.b.i. Is working side by side with the u.s. And navy and they have confirmed to us that they have 100 percent accountability. All international students from n.a.s. Pensacola Rojas says the gun used in the shooting a 9 millimeter Glock was purchased legally in Florida by the gunman but wouldn't give details she also refused to discuss whether a Twitter account is connected with the shooter a post on the account just before the shooting accused America with crimes against Muslims late yesterday the Navy released the names of the 3 sailors killed in the shooting their 23 year old Joshua Caleb Watson from Alabama a recent graduate of the Naval Academy Mohammed Haithem from Florida a 19 year old in flight crew training and 23 year old Cameron Scott Walters from Georgia an airman Apprentice Greg Allen n.p.r. News Pensacola. On Monday Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian president Vladimir is a Lansky are scheduled to meet in Paris for the 1st time I meeting observers hope will initiate some progress in resolving the bloody 5 year old conflict sparked by Russia's interventions in eastern Ukraine the need takes place at a delicate time for Ukraine which has been at the center of the impeachment drama in Washington d.c. It was Ukraine's president on the other end of that July 25th phone call with President Trump that set the impeachment inquiry in motion and it was u.s. Military aid to Ukraine that critics say Trump withheld to try and force the country to investigate a political rival and even apart from those facts Ukraine has been the subject of competing narratives is that a struggling emerging democracy that should remind Americans of themselves is it a den of corruption or the hapless victim of Russian aggression where to dig a little deeper into how all this is playing out from a Ukrainian perspective so we've called Sco Harnett she is a political scientist who studies Ukrainian politics at Penn State professor Welcome thank you so much for joining us yes thank you very much for having me we've also called Brian Barnett He is the chief editor at The key of post it's an English language news organization in Ukraine's capital Brian Barr thank you so much for joining us as well I'm happy to be here and so Mr Barr I'm going to start with you how would you describe the mood in the country on the eve of this meeting in Paris and I understand that that's a hard thing to sort of assess but but from your reporting are people hopeful Are they worried what can you tell us well there's a lot of anxiety Russia's war against Ukraine has been going on for nearly 6 years now $14000.00 people killed the Kremlin occupies and control 7 percent of Ukrainian territory including the Crimea and eastern done by us I would say that most people that we've talked to in the mood is not expecting a big breakthrough at all. Because there's still the feeling here that Lattimer Putin does not want peace that he benefits by keeping the war going and what about impeachment I mean are you craniums following what's being said about their country here in Washington d.c. . Yes they're following not as closely as in America the overwhelming feeling among Ukrainians is that they are being swept up against their will into into this u.s. Domestic political dispute So Professor let me bring you in here what are you hearing from your contacts about their reaction to all this I mean are people the people you talk to you in Ukraine are they concerned about how the impeachment inquiry in Washington for example is affecting their country standing as the president Selenski heads into this meeting I believe so absolutely that is a very good question and I think that is something that has many Ukrainians concerned at all levels the narrative that is being shaped by the inquiry really creates an image of Ukraine that is less than favorable and many feel that Ukraine might be appearing as much weekend position going into this negotiation between Italy and he and point and then it would have been one of the points that you know you'll recall that a number of diplomats testified in the course of this inquiry and one of the points that the diplomats nearly uniformly made is that Americans should identify with Ukraine as a country trying to redefine itself according to democratic norms I mean according to the rule of law and one of the arguments that they made about the intention of Russian interference is that it's to it's designed to undermine the confidence in a rule based international order So Professor I want to ask you Do you think in some way that that has succeeded I mean do you think that. Do you have a sense that it's changed how Ukrainians feel about the United States for example. So my understanding of the situation from the public opinion polls and so on is that Ukrainians generally have felt that they need the support from the west however at the same time they know very well that that support is conditional So there is a weariness about how much the American side is supporting Ukraine in this negotiations how much Emmanuel McCrone in Angola Merkel are committed in supporting Ukrainian position right they are going to be discussing possibilities of peace and Ukrainians generally aren't favor of peace however public opinion polls also show that Ukrainians are not in favor of peace on any kind of terms and that is the worry that here the terms are going to be dictated by Vladimir Putin rather than the 1000000 ski about what about you do you have any sense and I understand as you said earlier that Ukrainians are not watching this as closely as people in the United States are to the degree that you know even Americans are some question about that but do you think that what has unfold in the course of the impeachment inquiry the way that Ukraine has been described do you think that that's changed Ukrainians view of the u.s. In their face the Ukrainians have been in American policy is shaken by. Trumps conditionalities which appeared which put personal interests of of national interest and also above the u.s. Security interests so Ukrainians are very sensitive to any changes in u.s. Policy because they've enjoyed strong bipartisan support historically from both Republicans and Democrats who recognize that this is an aspiring democracy most Ukrainians want to be fully part of the European Union part of the west part of NATO and want to get rid of the baggage of Soviet imperialism Russian imperialism they fought 2 revolutions over this and now they're fighting a war to to have the right to choose their destiny the u.s. Is a key partner anything the u.s. Does that softens it brings and Zajac here I want to ask you about that I mean as you noted Brian by our in the past that Ukraine has had bipartisan support in the u.s. In its efforts to fund fend off you know Russian into your interference many Republicans who have spoken publicly about this in the course of the impeachment inquiry seem convinced that Ukrainians were biased against Donald Trump that they were somehow you know tacitly supporting Hillary Clinton during the last campaign what is the origin of that point of view why do they think that. Yes Ukraine officials and Ukrainians are very skeptical of Donald Trump and they had a reason to be and people publicly voiced criticism and doubts Donald Trump during the campaign if you remember he opened the possibility of recognizing Russia's illegal and it's a sion of Crimea he made false statements that Crimea is ruled prefer to be part of Russia than to be part of Ukraine in the Republican National Committee there was a platform in there to give lethal provide lethal weapons to Ukraine to help defend itself that was taken out and Donald Trump remember hired Paul manna for it as his campaign manager Paul manner for it is one of the most detested people in Ukraine for his role in getting elected a Kremlin backed president who was overthrown by the Euro Maidan revolution in 2014 so there is plenty of reason for Ukrainians to be skeptical and actually to to favor Hillary Clinton but that's completely different from interfering in the election which Ukraine had no ability to do so and that up ends truth because all the evidence is that Russia not only interfered on behalf of Donald Trump They also had the ability to do so so Professor I'm going to give you the the final word here what what. What what are you hoping that Americans will think about as they consider the diplomatic relationship between the u.s. And Ukraine going forward what what what elements do you think should be under consideration as Americans consider this. So moving forward you know diplomatic relations between Ukraine and United States right now to paraphrase one of the top diplomats of Ukraine are in the vacuum. After the resignation of court folk are there hasn't been in your special envoy to Ukraine there is a new acting in Bassett or Bill Taylor but nonetheless there is sort of the shaking of the more established traditional deep relationship of the diplomatic level and what is more there is no Ukrainian ambassador in United States still so there are. Danger of this is that Ukrainian story Ukrainian The voice is not present in the narrative that has been unfolding in United States and the presentation of Ukraine is definitely skewed so moving forward I think it's important for Americans to remember that Ukraine is an independent country Ukraine does have a very important role to play in the security of your up and Ukraine has suffered greatly in the hands of its neighbor so we need to remember that and it would be a big mistake to give up on your crane and let Guten deal with Ukraine as it were there was a Harnett She's an assistant teaching professor of political science at Penn State she studies Ukrainian politics we also heard from Brian Brown our chief editor of the key of post He's based in Kiev it's an English language news outlet there thank you both so much for talking with us I hope we'll talk again thank you thank you. You're listening to All Things Considered from n.p.r. News. Now to Orange County California an internal audit showing widespread mishandling of evidence in the sheriff's department has now become a very public scandal pitting different branches of law enforcement against one another and as N.P.R.'s Vanessa Romo reports the mishandled evidence may affect cases that have already been tried 3 weeks ago Assistant Public Defender Scott Sanders 1st learned that the vast majority of sheriff's deputies had been violating the department's evidence intake rules for years that immediately raised red flags it would be funny if it wasn't so serious sender says he learned of a damning internal audit that showed systematic problems with the handling of evidence from a source deputies are required to turn in evidence at the end of their shift but the internal investigation which looked at almost $99000.00 records from 2016 to 2018 found that nearly a 3rd a property evidence was submitted after the department's mandated deadline on average deputies delayed booking evidence including seize drugs cash photos and videos for 3 and a half days more than one in 4 deputies held on to evidence for a month or longer they know it's an enormous problem in their answer to it is to keep it to themselves then the department conducted a 2nd investigation the results were just as disturbing and 13 percent of the cases deputies never submitted any evidence at all even when they said they had when law enforcement mixes evidence in the back of their police car when they leave it in their home when they don't try to do and it's all evidence that should be in the hands of defendants so that they can have your trials the findings raise chain of custody concerns and could force a reexamination of cases that have already been decided possibly even reversed some convictions based on their own numbers Sanders estimates 9000 pieces of evidence could be tainted or missing that is completely embellished and inaccurate that's Orange County Sheriff Don Barnes he says he wasn't legally required to launch the depart. Wide investigation he did it as an ethical obligation and after the alarming results we did not call the Da nor would I be obligated to call the da and say this is what we found eventually though Barnes says 15 deputies were referred to the district attorney's office for criminal investigation which the Da declined to prosecute for deputies were fired 7 were disciplined and 4 cases are pending now the sheriff insists there are no cases we've found have been impacted by any prosecution and divest majority of those cases evidence has in fact been found and with the possession of the sheriff's department but district attorney Todd Spitzer says there's no we don't know if that's actually true his office still hasn't seen the audits when the D.A.'s office got the cases from the sheriff's department involving the deputies Spitzer says he had no idea it involved nearly 100000 cases there was no indication in any way whatsoever that this was a department wide audit the disclosures could throw the D.A.'s office into chaos still Spitzer says My one and only focus is to determine with certainty how many cases my office may have prosecuted where the evidence was never brought or it was booked in such a fashion that it calls into question the sincerity of that evidence Spitzer's might not be the only office that will want to re-examine pieces over mishandled evidence defense attorneys judges and the public are also demanding answers but also Romo n.p.r. 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Presents dot org I'm Janine Hurst with these headlines the House Judiciary Committee could vote on articles of impeachment against President Trump as soon as this week committee Democrats have been going over potential charges during closed door meetings this weekend and will start rolling out evidence tomorrow in Hong Kong a huge pro-democracy demonstration took place today but this one was authorized organizers say around 800000 people attended but police say that number was far smaller Either way it was one of the city's biggest demonstrations and a space x. Capsule carrying tons of supplies has arrived at the International Space Station NASA says the capsule carried supplies including mice for a muscle and bone experiment This is Space X.'s 19th supply run to the orbiting outpost I'm Janine Herbst n.p.r. News in Washington. Support for n.p.r. 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News I'm Michel Martin would like to spend a few minutes now talking about Wang which and gender you want to follow the debate in this country over whether people can use the pronoun they instead of he or she if they want to in the Spanish language all nouns have a gender most masculine ones in Oh and most feminine nouns and in a but in recent years some Spanish speakers have been pushing for ways to make nouns gender neutral in Argentina teenagers are leading the effort to rewrite some of the rules they're changing the way they speak and write replacing the masculine o. Of the feminine a with a gender neutral So for example I'm a ghost becomes I me guess Samantha Schmidt reported on this for The Washington Post and she's with us now to tell us more of Samantha sank so much for joining us thanks so much for having me so here in the u.s. The push for more gentle neutral language is often linked with efforts to end discrimination and violence against l.g.b. T.q. Individuals So what about in Argentina any idea of how this movement started yes so that there's actually been a number of efforts to create a gender neutral Spanish for years now some in the u.s. Might recognize the word Latino x x has been used for many years as a way to replace bowels to make them gender neutral they've also use the symbol for the at sign which in Spanish they call a draw but those forms were they were difficult to pronounce so in recent years it's really grown out of the feminist movement predominantly There have been a number of young people particularly in Argentina but also in other parts of Latin America that have started as you said replacing the Falls' with the e and it's really come from both a desire to acknowledge and represent non-binary identities people who don't identify as either male or female but it's also used as a way to sort of protest the entire language and. And that way it really resonates with feminists who feel that Spanish in particular is extremely gendered and is is inherently patriarchal Can you just give me an example of why the people behind this movement say that they need to kind of intervene in that the language basically kind of reinforces patriarchy Yeah I mean example well the most common example of people use is when you acknowledge a group of people for example if there's 100 people in the room and 99 of them are women if there is one man then you have to address the group with the default plural which is masculine So for example. You could say. Classmates there be a whole group of mostly female classmates and you have and with there's one male classmate You have to say combined yet some sort of combine yes side has there been any pushback has there been any sort of counter move against that and if so from from whom Oh yes it's still definitely new and it's still definitely associated with the kind of liberal feminist young people in the country and you know the Spanish language is also extremely tied to this academy called the Royal Spanish academy in Spain and they have said blatantly that they do not accept this that this is not how you speak Spanish that the Spanish language already offers options that are inclusive of both genders that when you use the masculine plural it does include female people as well and so you see a real pushback from people who are you know more closely tied to tradition and to the purity of the language. Ok I'm just going let that go you think that that women are absorbed into males fact well from a biological standpoint I hate to tell you it's actually the other way but that's another issue for another day so before we let you go Samantha Spanish is spoken by more than 500000000 people worldwide I heard you say that the big sort of the academic bodies that that have task themselves with determining what is normative have a certain view of this but just say on the ground just in usage any sense that this is catching on beyond Argentina so beyond Argentina I've heard of people in other you know Mexico and started using it like very kind of small pockets here and there it seems to really just barely be reaching other parts of Latin America but actually here in the u.s. I talked to some professors who said that within their Spanish programs at universities they've had students say how can we how can we speak Spanish that gender neutral way I think you know only time will tell whether this will actually take off beyond these kind of liberal younger pockets of Argentine agers that is Samantha Schmidt of The Washington Post telling us about her reporting in Argentina on the movement there to make the Spanish language more gender neutral Samantha Schmidt thank you so much for talking to us thank you so much for having me. And finally today there's a new Broadway musical we want to tell you about it's about the one the only miss. And yes Tina Turner It is called Tina that Tina Turner musical and it tells the rags to riches to rags again to riches again the saga of Tina Turner's life starting a nutbush Tennessee where the young Anna Mae Bullock was born then her rise to stardom with Ike Turner whom she eventually married and then left after years of abuse and then her improbable but somehow entirely fitting 2nd rise to fame as a solo performer in her mid forty's no less Adrian Warren plays Turner from age 16 to nearly 50 in the Tina Turner musical and she's already gotten raves both in the u.k. And the u.s. For her show stopping performance. Reading the book for the music it was written by Kotori hall along with Frank Cate Lerner and keys Prince you may remember the Kotori Hall wrote the award winning play The Mountaintop her imagined account of Dr Martin Luther King Jr final night on earth and Kotori hall and Adrian Warren are with us now from our bureau in New York thank you both so much for being with us congratulations may 'd you think that having us wow I got to catch our breath here I could have just hard listening to it where to start Adrian Warren to be playing Tina Turner now you already had the experience of playing a demanding for. Cicle role in shuffle along which was also a hit but in this you are on stage almost the entire show even through word job changes there are 20 musical numbers was there any point at which when you got this role you thought to yourself Ah well yeah the 1st time they called me I thought. I can't do that I remember my dad even said my dad is the biggest Tina Turner fan ever and here I was and shuffle along playing like a jazz like a jazz standard you know. Flapper from the twenty's that was singing like a bird and here I am someone's going to let me be Tina Turner I'm sorry what he said I don't know chant that you can do that yes Dad Yes I did my dad got is everything has been Yeah well what made you decide to go for it I love Tina Turner so much and I'm a fan 1st and I think because Tori Hall because Philip Lloyd because Talley Polman are producer because they believed in me and Tina also producing the show as well I knew there was a reason they wanted me here and I just had to find that within myself did she give you any advice on how to play her so much advice I had time with her one on one where I was able to ask her anything I wanted to ask her about her as a woman about her as a performer about her time with Ike about her time after Ike and that was very crucial to the development of this performance for me can you just give me without . You know I don't care if you violate any confidence who isn't my god what it was so do you mind sharing like what we're going to ask her 1st day I was like How do you do this how do you think you 1st thing I said and you know she said The thing is there are no short cuts to hard work. And she's right and I and I really took that to heart and I put that in everything in my training I trained for about 8 months before I even started the run in London and boxing and transformed my body in trance trying to find her voice within my own voice and I knew I had to give everything every part of myself into this role in order to do it successfully and to truly pay homage to her in the way in which she deserves contrary you know got to address the pain points in this piece yes the abuse that Tina Turner experienced in her relationship with Turner it's known at this point but you know I have to tell you seeing it acted out is kind of a harsh meal at 1st it's just and I just wondered about the conversation you had with you and your co-writers and with her about how to. To pick this is depicted you know she had a lot of trepidation about showing people the violence and to put people in the room with it I think the most beautiful thing about the iter is that in that space we get to tell stories of witness and if you put an audience in the room with violence it lends more you feel the hits you put yourself in Tina's position you are on that floor with her because it is happening right in front of your eyes and so I think it was extremely important to be very brutally honest about those slaps about and also just about you know the financial control the emotional control read the emotional abuse and she would you know the other thing that fascinated me Kotori is I feel that you make a case for. Not just why she stayed but why he did it and that's a that's a that's a conversation that we often are having at the moment because people say oh why did she put up with it but then you know I also want to know why did you treat someone like that and their humanity with them then you have it again here you know how how is it that I this is a person you're intimate with and yet in so what I'm interested in how you came to where philosophy about how you wanted to depict his why Absolutely you know obviously I turn out as the villain in the Tina Turner story and that was actually one of the things that Tina was very interested in she wanted to reframe I she wanted to give him his humanity you know even looking looking back and having gone through that abuse even today you know there was there's this kind of I wouldn't say love but of knowledge and a healing that she's going through where she she wanted to give him the space in the real estate to be seen as a human being now I don't want to make excuses for the man like he did some monstrous things but I was very interested in investigating like you said the why and so in my kind of reframing of of him as a character in her story I was interested in investigating the fact that he grew up in the Jim Crow south the fact that he he saw his father good get beaten within an inch of his life or for courting a white woman the fact that you know he had his voice taken away from him and so that resentment really kind of folded in on itself and unfortunately he decided to kind of displace his anger at himself and his anger at America on to Tina and I wanted to ask you at a point at which you're going through this I noticed in the curtain call that you and your coaster. To the person who plays I turn or you hug and I assume that that was a way of sort of saying to the audience that this is Ok yeah you know that this is I'm Ok And this is just you know you can it's Ok but I was curious for you when the point at which things turn around for Tina was she really starts to take control of her career and her relationships like what's that like for you healed redemptive does it feel like what's that like for you as a performer it definitely feels redemptive because you've just you know seen someone go through such a rollercoaster of a journey of a life and go through some of the most horrific moments and you could think someone could go through especially in a partnership and a business partnership as well as a personal partnership and so yes when you do see Daniel Watts who plays I and I hug at the end of the show it is a it is a moment for the audience to breathe and realize that we are telling a story and Daniel it's family to me and real life so it's important to show the audience that because we are bringing violence into our room and make them in having people sit there and see the ramifications of it and also on the other side of it see how much strength and power and healing in making a choice to to better yourself you're seeing someone go through that and actually succeed and get to that and I don't want to make the mistake of thinking you know performance is tracks with with life I mean this is Tina Turner's life but it does make me wonder. You lived this incredible journey of this woman's life and I just wondered if there anything you learned about yourself in the course of going through this man when I tell you I've grown up doing this I've been working on this show now since 2016 is the 1st reading and I feel like I've grown so much because of this and I mean in the sense of as a performer as a woman as I told you earlier I didn't think I could do this and to now be on the other side of London and to be on the other side of now opening the show on Broadway with Tina and the audience with her best friends Oprah and Gayle and all the people that you know you could possibly look up to in this world as you know young black actress will be Goldberg all these people in the audience who I'm looking at and watching meaning that has has done everything to me because it just shows you there's no limit to what you can do if you put every thing you have into the work and so now I know when I put in that work and I can find that strength within myself just as Tina then and so that I realize there's a little bit of Tina and all of a Absolutely and that's the beauty of the show and I'm much more of a warrior of a woman and being a performer because of this and that's what we want audiences to walk out of that that theater feeling like I can conquer the world any demon any obstacle in I can slay a dragon I was a little girl in her own right. That is playing right Kotori hall and we were also speaking with Adrian Warren who stars as Tina Turner in the Broadway shows Tina Tina Turner musical it's showing that a lot Fontayne Theater in New York attorney hall Adrian Warren thank you both so much for joining me for having us. For Sunday that's All Things Considered from n.p.r. News on the show Martin with thank you for listening and we hope you have a great week. Support for n.p.r. Comes from this station and from t.i.a. Committed to the idea that while most things in life run out from clean shirts in the morning to a favorite dessert at night lifetime income in retirement shouldn't learn more it t.i.a.a. Dot org slash never run out and from the pajama gram company creators of matching holiday pajamas for the whole family including dogs and cats with Charlie Brown Star Wars and Grinch themes in its fleece and flannel available at pajama gram dot com. 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