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This is Fresh Air I'm Terry Gross my guest Jonah Hill became famous for playing a high school student in the comedy Superbad that was just one of his comedy films along with the 40 Year Old Virgin Knocked Up and funny people that was produced and or directed by Judd Apatow. Hill received Oscar nominations for Best Supporting Actor for his dramatic roles in Moneyball and The Wolf of Wall Street this year he costarred in the Gus Van Sant film Don't worry he won't get far on foot and he stars with Emma Stone in the new Netflix series maniac Jonah Hill just made his directing debut with the new film mid ninety's which he also wrote It's about a subculture of skateboarders in the mid 1990 s. The period when Jonah Hill was a self described not great skateboarder but hung out with a group of much better skateboarders the film isn't autobiographical but it draws on his memories the film is told from the point of view of a boy played by the 11 year old Sonny Sol chick who wants to be a skateboarder and be accepted by the older skaters he had Myers who take life threatening risks with tricks and stunts and spend the rest of their time smoking drinking and trash talking the skaters are played by pros but the skaters they play are unlikely to get anywhere they have no money no connections Jonah Hill welcome to Fresh Air Congratulations on the movie what did skateboarding mean to you when you were in your teens. I'm no ambassador for skateboarding and skateboarding is so sensitive to being pro-trade in film by outsiders and that's understandable because it's often butchered but when I was maybe 9 or so skateboarding gave me a real sense of it especially more in my early teens gave me a real sense of community outside of my home and I think a lens that I ended up seeing a lot of life through which is you know taste in music clothes. Treatment of authority and just a sense of perverse closeness I know just played an imprint on me so the group of skaters who you were friends with or aspired to be friends with what was that culture like it was a lot of different things you know I was always terrible I always wanted to be great I think I still would trade a lot of achievements for certain skateboarding achievements that just I don't think are physically possible for me at this point at 34 I filmed a lot. Of film the skaters that you're in you are going to be a great skateboarder but you cannot Yes exactly Ok and I loved it and it was there was such bombastic personalities such twisted sense of humor now with a 20 year lens on it having written this film. Really showed me you know a lot of what I think was great about it in what are things that I had to and people from not time had to unlearn what are some things you felt you had to learn from this country the way people spoke to one another and what they said to one another especially in regards to homophobia and toxic masculinity like there's a scene where the kid in the movie says to the slightly older he had Thank you and the other kid says that's so gay you can say that and then you start he says don't think people because people are going to think you're gay yeah and the idea is that is something that a kid would have said to another kid but how absurd and messed up is that that that was the mentality or wasn't blinked at when things like that were said back then. That was a choice I made some of the language is really hard to watch for me some of the actions are really hard to watch for me. But ultimately I felt it was more unfair to rewrite history than to show it as bluntly and as uncomfortable as it was so you know in the movie the young boy's mother is appalled at the scene that he's become a part of and she realize it's realizes its dangers and the the kind of disrespect he's being taught well also want to clear and I don't want to and I'm condemning the negative but I want to see Demi Moore and kind of sexism and disrespect right which is very deliberate and the difficulty of watching it is deliberate act times and also these young men are also very there for one another and my point is that things aren't so black and white people can do horrible things and still do kind things people can do kind things and still do horrible things these kids in danger warning others lives very seriously and they're also asleep at the hospital when they wake up and I'm not judging these characters it's not my job to judge them I wanted to show for better or for worse how people spoke and behave in the mid 1990 s. In this culture so the teenagers who you cast as the skaters in the film most of them seem like they're like professional skateboarders that they skate in competitions they represent various companies how did you find them. There is a young man who worked on the movie name Mikey Alfred who we made a co-producer who owns a skate company in l.a. And he brought a lot of local Los Angeles skateboarders into audition as well as I went to skate parks and did my own research but a lot of these kids came from him being in the skate scene in Los Angeles in bringing in tons of people and I guess me seeing the potential for these young skateboarders as actors I saw how bombastic how funny how smart how damaged how raw how joyous how painful. The souls and lives are of the people that I noticed within this world which made me even want to tell this story in the 1st place my impression watching the movie is that a lot of the lines might have been improvised that you might have said Here's the basic stuff I want you to communicate but say it your way because you know a lot of what they're saying to each other isn't really about the content of what they're saying it's more about the attitude and there's a lot of expletives in it and like some of it on the page would you know I mean I like I wasn't sure if you were writing that out word for word or if you're saying just like go with it and then filming it well in editing it I take that as a massive compliment because that style of writing is so deliberate and I wanted the kids to improvise but they were obsessed with becoming great actors and becoming these characters and learning this screenplay and for me it took 3 years and 20 drafts to deliberately write every And like an expletive with a reason behind it well really and. That's very intentional and that's you know capturing very realistic dialogue that seems improvised is a compliment to these young performers acting and you know really deliberate thought in how these people speak to one another. Did you learn to speak that way yes I think I was taught and maybe culturally we were taught at that time if you are a man and you express your feelings or you express that something hurts you then you should be made fun of. And that kind of repression leads to anger and anger leads to bad behavior and I think I wanted to show a film about young men with an inability to express themselves but the thing is like you were as a child and then as a young teen you were writing like scripts for The Simpsons and not on a professional level you were just writing reps for The Simpsons so you yes Lee had both ambition and also a facility for words you lived in a world of words you wanted to communicate on the page and I'm thinking what it must have been like for you to have this urge to write to communicate to make written jokes referring to pop culture with characters and I mean that's what The Simpsons is all about and at the same time feel like but you're not supposed to express yourself because you're a boy yeah and I'm not I'm not victimizing myself I think as a straight white male I have more privileged and I can even comprehend Of course yeah but I had at last you are kind of suppressing something they came really natural to you that you really valued right and I also I have always been expected to be a certain type of thing and I played right into that out of my own insecurity as a person and I as a kid was very funny identify as a writer 1st and foremost in my life after just Brother person Uncle stuff 1st occupation I would list it would be a writer. And then going into a culture where that kind of verbal communication or emotional communication is mocked and then on top of that you know even when I became a well known public figure I think the duality of comedy and being overweight and all this stuff allowed for jokes and punches to be made about me and towards me which turned me angrier which made me communicate worse and then when you're funny you become a bit mean I'll speak for myself you think of the thing to hurt the other person because you assume they're about to hurt you it all plays into each other in this very weird cyclical thing and then I became famous as an overweight comedian and then I felt like I wasn't given the respect as a human being a lot of humor as like self-deprecating humor and self-deprecating humor doesn't go over and that kind of like teen masculine. Like athletic culture I say this as an outsider to all of that but but anyways did you have an impulse toward self-deprecating humor but you knew that that wouldn't be appropriate to the scene that you were in I think my point is I'm trying even in my twenty's even going through a career publicly going through my twenty's publicly either being mean and defensive or self-deprecating to a point where you're beating yourself up to feel like you deserve to see the table are both are unhealthy for me because obviously being mean makes you feel bad when you go home if you have a heart which I do and then. And being defensive or beating yourself. Gives you a real problem with your self-esteem. And the way I related that in mid ninety's or tried to express that within the character of Stevie is this person's currency in his life is his ability to take abuse and to take pain. And I don't want to give away the end of the film but the film along with my own journey has been a tremendous amount about self acceptance though his issues are different than yours and his way of resolving it is different than yours but that's the the core emotional issue that you're getting at. Yeah is that we all beat ourselves I explore male self abuse in the film was something that I found after doing a lot of research very troubling and fascinating. Literal sibling abuse troubling in fascinating and why skateboarding is a natural draw to someone who takes hits whether inflicted from someone else or themself why do you think it's a natural draw for somebody in that position because to be great at skateboarding you have to be willing to slam on your face down 10 stairs on concrete over and over and over and over and over again and there's something punishing about that in self punishing about that and there's a great reward that is truly earned even if it's just for you Are you willing to do that when you wanted to skate. Very briefly in a time where I think I invited pain. But I quickly grew out of inviting physical pain in my life and more emotional. Good for you. Yeah I mean the scars are the only scars are in your scars and inside yeah and just in general recklessness which I related to when I related to these kids loneliness and so even though this isn't my story I wanted to show someone going through deep pain and a real sense of hope through community even if that community just has deep flaws to it like small mindedness prejudice massaging me that for this kid it still provided something hopeful and perhaps these young men will grow up in and learn some of this stuff would you ever dream of getting on a skateboard now. Yeah I dream about it every night I honestly Terry when I tell you I would trade a lot in my life to be able to do certain tricks Ok I should not use the word dream would you in reality. Ever consider going to skateboard now I landed a kick flip in front of our cast and crew in order just a out of being so excited exhilarated by everyone skating but b. To just prove that this is something that at one point was a massive part of my life let's take a short break here and then we'll talk some more if you're just joining us my guest is Jonah Hill and he's just written and directed his 1st film and it's called mid ninety's and as you can tell from our conversation it's set among a group of skateboarders in the mid 1990 s. We'll be right back and we'll talk about some of the films he starred in after the break this is Fresh Air. 91.5 Care c c can be with you wherever you go or you need is your Android device or i Phone download the free 91.5 k. Or c c mobile app Google Play or the i Tunes App Store just search for k r c c. The Assistance League of Colorado Springs invites you to their annual fun fair fundraiser on Sunday November 3rd for information on this and other public service announcements can be found on the community calendar link. This is Fresh Air and if you're just joining us my guest is Jonah Hill and he's known for starring in movies like Superbad Moneyball and The Wolf of Wall Street I want to ask you again about all those Simpsons scripts that you wrote when you're a kid did you ever try submitting one of them I know I wrote letters to the writers and I never heard back but I never tried submitting them would you be willing to share a story line or a joke from one of your early scripts here's what I'll say I think the strongest episode was I was a cinephile since a young age my parents were incredibly. Let's just say how would I put it they encouraged me or let me watch movies beyond my age because they saw how interested I was in film so perhaps ignored the content matter of certain that I maybe should have waited to see till I was older so I had seen The Godfather to really young age because it's my dad's favorite movie and I wrote a Simpson's Godfather spoof. When I was probably like 9 or 10 that I think is I was when I went back as an adult I was like wow that was the analogy between the characters from The Godfather and the characters in The Simpsons were clever for a 9 year old. Who was who Marge was Don Corleone because as a 9 year old I was like Marge is so much smarter and quietly smarter than Homer so she would be the chess player sort of quiet low key chess player that would become the Don No excuse me she's Michael So Ok Ok barge is Michael Grandpa Simpson is is Don he dies right away though so Marge is Michael where does Homer fan and no Homer see that would be that would make Martin Homer siblings so even in my 9 year old mind I knew that was not going to work so Homer is Ok. But like the clueless Diane Keaton like when are you going to go legit you know. But Lenny in car all Homer's friends from work were Lenny was fraid o. And Carl was sunny and I don't know I mean it's not actually clever but for a 9 year old I was like wow it's interesting that you have the Bishop in or the. Or even I guess the where with all the know who would be the a character equivalent of who and if you think about story and character and that way and to make connections between things that I think that's pretty great what are some of the movies that were beyond your age as a kid that your parents let you watch because you love movies so much I'll tell you story that I find interesting because. I mean I saw everything I devoured film like I continue to I love it so I had ran through so many films and I would go to the newsstand you know your parents take you to the magazine stand when you're a kid and you flip through magazines or if there's a magazine say on the corner and they're at another place or something and I would look through the film magazines I was just so interested so I would ask them often can I see this film can I see this film and most of time they say Yes So basically it came down to 2 films that I wasn't allowed to see. They said we are so lenient you don't even realize how lucky you are you cannot see kids and you cannot see a clockwork orange Wow kids it's all about kids similar to the kids in your movie and it's a seminal movie in my life kids is a huge influence on me as a filmmaker but this film is in the opposite of kids were kids is so beautiful in its nihilism and it's the world ending tomorrow burn the world down and this film mid ninety's is all about connection and hope even if it's dysfunctional connection in hope and those are the 2 movies I wasn't allowed to see so of course I made it my mission to see both of them right away I think I was 11 or 12 How did you do it . A friend of mine who I skateboarded with who was older had both cassettes at his house and I saw the kids and I was like I love skateboarding I love New York this is about kids skateboarding in New York I completely was too young to understand the aids subplot or main plot I guess and so I completely wasn't affected by that so I was just like this is the greatest movie I've ever seen in my life it was until I was older that I understood the HIV Aids plot part of the film because it went over my head so I just took wow this is subversive in this is dangerous you know and then I saw a clockwork orange and I had to go to my parents like a shell of a child and be like you were right I saw it deeply disturbed and I need to talk to it's like you know like Alas I want to do is tell them that I disobeyed them but I was choose shook up not to speak to them about what I had seen what chick you also asked about the film I think the raping ultraviolence was just too I've course it was too heavy it was so so hard to watch as an adult let alone a kid what did your parents say to reassure you. Well 1st of all they were like You should listen to us because we're telling you this stuff for a reason yeah and then I've course did it for many many years and realize they were trying their best I think ultimately it did make me braver as an artist in life because I do think about that and I think ultimately there's something about me that draws me to things that are difficult and maybe I'm uncomfortable with comfort and I think my acting career says that when I really dissect it as well my guest is Jonah Hill he wrote and directed the new film mid ninety's about a group of skateboarders in the mid 1990 s. We'll talk more after a break a Marine Corps again will review a new book about Emmett Till a 14 year old African-American whose murder in 1955 in Mississippi galvanized the civil rights movement I'm Terry Gross and this is Fresh Air. A new of our Family Foundation supports w.h.y. 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The period when Jonah Hill was skateboarding so we were talking about loving movies wanting to write and to direct how did you start acting and how old were you when you started to realize not only wanted to do it but that you were good at it. Well I think there are 2 very different answers to that question my goal my whole life was to be a writer and director to say this is a dream what's happening now is like an understatement. And when I went to New School in New York I would write these one act plays and we would often put them up bars and. When I would have actors read I had really bad bedside manner because I didn't understand why they wouldn't do it in the way that you wrote it and my friend pulled me aside really generously as a good friend and was like look like you need to learn how to talk to actors they don't like they don't like auditioning you know and they don't like working with you and so I took an acting class to learn how I'd want to be spoken to as an actor so maybe I could speak more eloquently and lovingly towards actors and I was such an insecure person and I got such positive feedback in the acting class that it derailed me for 16 years. And in this amazing derailment and this amazing education in film and film school and also finding a new expression that is another creative expression that I love that's so interesting that you really wanted to direct and you took the acting class just to learn how to speak better to actors that's that's weird that's crazy that's interesting a compliment can reroute you for 16 years. Do you find the right complement for the right and secure person it could change a life did you agree that you were a good yes I I shrug Oh we're taking complements my instinct is to make a joke or say no. But where I'm at in my life is I don't really want to be so negative towards myself in try and be kind to myself and the truth is I I did think I was good at acting. And then is it fair to say that you kind of found a different kind of tribe than the skateboarding tribe that you found like maybe your real tribe with Judd Apatow circle of actors and writers even though you were in Freaks and Geeks you were in so many Judd Apatow directed or produced movies how did you become part of the Judd Apatow tribe Well I met actually the casting director I hired a mid ninety's Allison Jones is Judd casting director and that's why I hired her for my 1st film because she she's the one who introduced me to Judd I after I did I Heart Huckabees I met some casting directors because. You know I got like an agent off of that and then Alice introduced me to judge him brought me into read for that little one line and 4 year old virgin and I don't know then I stuck around so there's one specific line I'm going to ask you about because this line fits so well with what we were talking about before about having to learn a kind of masculinity an attitude that you hadn't learned in skateboard culture and you might be able to guess the line I'm going to ask you about so it's from Superbad which you start in with with Michael Cera and. You're at your high school kid in this and you know you're not part of the cool crowd at all and one of the really popular high school girls played by Emma Stone who you now costar with in the Netflix series maniac I love her yeah from a distance I love her too for the decision of what he has the honor for as a person because she is an actor Good good good that always makes me happy to hear but anyway she's going to be throwing a party while her parents are gone and she needs somebody to buy alcohol and even though you're under age you decide you're going to get the alcohol you. Bring it to the party and be the hero and so you're you're trying to tell the Michael Cera character about this and he's kind of skeptical of this is a very good idea that you'll even be able to do it and then you say and I'm going to say like the really clean version of this because it's much too expletive let least for us to play this on the radio but you basically say you know how girls say I was so drunk last night I shouldn't have had sex with that guy we could be that mistake so that have that sound to you now I mean women are so furious about how teenage boys and adult men try to get girls and women drunk or drugged to get them into bad I mean it's literally horrifying. What a hard thing to hear because the idea behind that is this young man is hoping the young woman is so and he braided that her judgment would be so poor that she would make a mistake by sleeping with him and that is incredibly wrong and I didn't write that film so I think comedy has a really hard time in the aging process because things that are funny at the moment or people might laugh at. Times change that was never right but it for some reason it was Ok to make a joke about it at that point where as of course it's not now hearing it now sounds horrific So how does it sound to you awful but it didn't sound good to me then either I didn't like the idea you know that kind of like disregard for girls or women just like that never sounded subsetting Yeah I was deeply upsetting I know it to be honest to you I was 23 and I Not that that's an excuse but I don't think I had the emotional maturity. To understand that those words or that joke would be so horrible you know because that's the reality I don't think I ever thought of that as a reality because it's not my experience and so now thinking of that as a reality is very hard to hear Yeah well thank you for being reflective about that so so it's been interesting 13 years later after Superbad to see how you and how Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg have evolved you know and that the subjects you've all taken on since then because I think I think things have changed Yeah and I literally can only speak for myself and as an actor in that moment I didn't see how hard that is and how ugly that joke is but I don't want to speak for the filmmakers because this is such a larger hard issue where a 13 year old joke stands now when I hear that it's very disturbing but I also know those people that wrote it and they're really good people so it's just so complicated I never want to be hurtful to anybody either side. Why don't we take a short break here and then we'll talk some more if you're just joining us my guest is Jonah Hill you know him as an actor but he's now a director and screenwriter hears directorial debut is called mid ninety's We'll be right back this is Fresh Air. More and more people are getting their news on mobile devices and through social media and 91.5 k. R.c.c. Doesn't have to be any different this morning's newscast find it on our website getting out of your current want to keep listening to All Things Considered download the mobile app need info on a local story impacting your community follow us on Twitter feel like passing along that n.p.r. Story like us on Facebook the news never stops neither do we 91.5. Support for n.p.r. Comes from this station and from You Tube originals and Roadside Attractions presenting Viper Club starring Susan Sarandon as a mother struggling to free her captured journalist son also starring Matt Bomer and in theaters Friday. And from Home Advisor matching homeowners with home improvement professionals for a variety of home projects from minor repairs to major remodels homeowners can read reviews of local pros and book appointments online at Home Advisor dot com This is Fresh Air and if you're just joining us my guest is Jonah Hill you know him as an actor but now he's a screenwriter and director and his directorial debut was called mid ninety's and it's set among a group of teen skateboarders in the mid ninety's you know it's been interesting to like 1st see you kind of like. Come into manhood on screen because she was started in your teens Superbad you were what in your early twenty's Yeah. And now it's like in the past I don't know bunch of years 567 years you started playing more dramatic roles you know in films like Wolf of Wall Street and Moneyball How did you get the word out to film directors that you were interested in making the transition to more dramatic roles it's just by choices you know I had seen The Puffy Chair which I loved and I reached out to the deploy brothers after Superbad came out and I was like I would love to work with you. And they gave me this part in Cyrus which is a film that I love it. Was a great experience with John c. Reilly Mercito Mae And then Catherine Keener and then Bennett Miller was making money ball and Catherine had talked about me to Bennett and then Bennett saw Cyrus and cast me in Moneyball and then in the interim. I continued to do some comedy films that were funny and fun and then. I had heard about the wolf of Wall Street and I asked to audition and. I knew that was going to fight to get that part but I and I knew I wanted that part really badly and then when I wanted to write and direct I think I had a lot of opportunities to do that if I wanted to make a mainstream comedy. And when I really thought about it I was like wow things in my life are happening that are intense. And am I going to be happy just doing what is expected of me or what my heart really wants so I have to figure out who I am I have to figure out how to love who I am and I have to figure out what my voice is as a filmmaker and when I looked to my heroes like Mike Nichols or Barry Levinson or people that started out in comedy and ended up having great filmmaking careers I looked at their 1st films and a lot of times they came from a really personal place and they weren't just funny they were they felt like life and they felt like all the pain and joy of life. I want to hear a scene from Wolf of Wall Street which was directed by Martin Scorsese and written by Terence Winter who was also the show runner for the h.b.o. Series Boardwalk Empire and so this this is a movie that. Based on the story of Jordan Belfort who was a corrupt stockbroker who made his fortune in penny stock schemes and eventually went to jail for for fraud and in this scene Jordan played by Leonard Leonardo Dicaprio is in a diner and he's approached by Donnie Azoff played by you who eventually becomes a business partner but this is their 1st meeting. So you start the scene. Gives me. Such a car lot you know. It's a nice ride basement companies are making it would go for as you mentioned you know actually I see that crawl around I see around when you think and I think we live in a single. 12 floor jail floor you are floor for the total kids write me what you. Want you to put. On a plane or order for work or You Tube and stock brokers stock will go to the judge front you called it feels so right to make a lot of money. Yeah I do I write for myself I'm trying to put it together in my skull in the same field I just I'm not understand how much how much money. I'm 70000 last month. I'm serious and I'm says to 60 how much money. I'm told you 70000 of technically 72000 still something like that. To me something to kind of. You know. I tell you what. You show me a pistol for $72000.00 I quit my job right now that work for you. In. A poorly What's up now you're not going to find a listen I quit and he quit his job you know which I thought was a little weird I mean I just met this guy have to tell Susan a son of a business know well the things about him too like his phosphorescent white teeth wife I got a deal you know what fact that he was born in rooms with clear lenses just to look more waspy. So that's a scene with Leonardo Dicaprio and I guess Jonah Hill from the wolf of Wall Street what did you learn from working with Martin Scorsese on Wolf of Wall Street. Honestly so many things I guess the main lesson I learned was that it's Ok not to judge your characters to just show their behavior as people and the characters in his films often do really ugly things and you still find humanity in them and I like how unabashedly and unapologetically he shows human behavior for better or worse which is something you've tried to do in your new movie. Which is I think something that really. Speaks to me in art in general and something I'm going to strive to do if I'm lucky enough to get to make another film and something that I tried to do in mid ninety's. If we want to leave it back to The Simpsons I mean homework I viewed as a terrible father really a terrible father he's can be viewed but he also is a really loving big hearted person all right so you know it's like I guess I'm interested in the gray area Ok so this weekend this Saturday you're going to host Saturday Night Live November 3rd so I'm going to play an excerpt of a Saturday Night Live sketch that you when you hosted in 2014 and it's the sketch that most took me by surprise and when I say me I mean me personally so you played a 6 year old who's with his stepmother at a Benihana restaurant seated at a communal table and you're you're acting like this like 6 year old insult comic with all the insults directed at your stepmother Dr Debbie Wasserstein is played by Vanessa Bayer and she's trying to make you stop. Inappropriate you know you know probably as you're listening to n.p.r. On the drive over now my mommy is will take place in Syria and start very gross and all things considered maybe consider she's listening I don't want to train whistle every once in a while not my interest. Ok Needless to say I was so shocked and the light of the name checked I you know. There's so many layers to why that is humorous to hear at this moment it's just so funny. I think the idea of a little kid who behaves like an old in sort of comic the whole thing was like he's like an old man but he's still a little kid so the fact that yes I listen to n.p.r. . Boring to a kid even though he's so aware to talk about the show with such detail and understanding but that actually that character came about years and years ago I did the 1st this is my 5th time and I guess I hosted 1st for Superbad so I was probably like 23 or something. And I was at dinner a few weeks before randomly with with Bill Hader and Eddie Samberg and I think a key Oh set Myers was there and. Bill Hader told a story about going to a Benihana in his home town and there was a kid who he couldn't tell whether the kid was like 6 or like 40. And when the when the chef did his trick the kid leaned back in clapped his one hand against the table almost like Tony Soprano style and I think I just started doing the kid as if he was like an old Catskills comedian and that's where when I got there a few weeks later we were like oh she tried that as a sketch and then we ended up doing it a bunch of times. Well you don't Health think you so much for coming on the show it's just been great to talk with you thank you to you Jonah Hill Road and directed the new film mid ninety's after we take a short break Marine Corrigan will review a new book about Emmett Till a 14 year old African-American who was murdered in Mississippi in 1965 the outrage that followed became a catalyst in the civil rights movement this is Fresh Air. Hosted b.b.c. News as today conservationists say mankind's over use of natural resources has led to a 60 percent decline in wildlife over the past 50 years and we have a special report on the caravan of migrants on the southern border of the u.s. The b.b.c. News Hour today at 1 pm on 91.5 p. Or c c. Many 1.5 Care s.c.c. Has been southern Colorado's n.p.r. Station since 1984 discover more take care c c dot org And follow us on Facebook and Twitter n.p.r. On 91.5 k. Or c. C. Is supported locally by 91.5 k. Or c.c. Underwriters thank you for helping to fund Southern Colorado's n.p.r. Station 91.5 k. Or c c more information on how to underwrite at k. Or c c dot org. This is Fresh Air This past summer the f.b.i. Once again reopened its investigation into the Emmett Till case till is 14 years old when he was murdered in Mississippi in 1955 his death help sparked the civil rights movement there's been many books written about the Emmett Till case especially recently but a new book by historian Elliot j. Gorn reminds us of the effort it took to keep tales case before the public book critic Maureen Corrigan has a review let the people see what they did to my Boy those were the words spoken by Emmett Till's mother Mamie Till Mobley after viewing the brutalized body of her son during his night of torture near the delta town of Money Mississippi 14 year old Emmett Till's right I had been dislodged from its socket his tongue choked out of his mouth the back of his skull crushed and his head penetrated by a bullet at the insistence of his family tills body was shipped back home for burial in Chicago and Mamie Till Mobley specifically called for an open casket day and night over Labor Day weekend in 1955 over 100000 mourners almost all of them African-American filed past that open casket which lay in state in a South Side church before the funeral service a staff photographer from Jet magazine was permitted to photograph Emmett Till's body and those images were disseminated to other African-American magazines and newspapers including The Chicago Defender but as historian Eliot j. Goren tells us in his new book on the Emmett Till case the mainstream press didn't reprint those photographs. And of course they were considered too graphic for television years later Goren says many white Americans remembered falsely remembered the epiphany of Till's ruined face in 1955 but few white people saw the photos until 30 years later when the documentary Eyes on the prize opened with the Emmett Till story only then did his mother's words let the people see what they did to my boy begin to be fully realized Goren's book is called Let the people see like Timothy b. Tyson's 27 team book the blood of Emmett Till it builds on new evidence discovered by the f.b.i. In 2005 to present a detailed reconstruction of Till's kidnapping and killing in Mississippi in retaliation for allegedly having whistled at a white woman named Carolyn Bryant Goren also dives deep into a legal analysis of the transcripts of the trial in the town of Sumner Mississippi in which Bryant's husband and his half brother were tried for Till's murder both men were quickly acquitted by an all white all male jury but what's most interesting about corns book is his final section called memory in which he traces how till story which seems so well known today came very close to passing into oblivion Goren points out that in the 2 years following Till's murder more than 3000 articles about him were published then the whole of the 1960 s. Brought only 300 articles in the 1970 s. Fewer than 50 stories appeared. Just as disturbing is the fact that some of those stories including one written in 1956 by William Faulkner for Harper's Magazine relied on a paid interview with the 2 alleged killers that had been published in Look magazine that looks story characterized Emmett Till as a defiant sexual aggressor going forward Gorn says the 10th and 25th anniversary is of Till's murder mostly passed unobserved even in the black press it was the rise of African-American studies that helped to recover Emmett Till's story along with the widespread popularity of the 1977 t.v. Serial roots which proved there was a mainstream market for black history in 1985 a Chicago reporter named Rich Samuels produced a half hour documentary on the Till case segments of which were later broadcast on N.B.C.'s Today Show for the 1st time in mainstream media Goren says white saw the photograph of Emmett Till in his coffin as the image appeared on the screen viewers heard the voice of writer James Baldwin who said it was myself in that coffin it was my brother's in that coffin I can't describe it so precisely because it had been so mutilated it had been so violated it was him but it was all of us. Let the people see is a timely book about the fragility of collective memory and about the courage and persistence of journalists particularly black journalists some of whom risked their lives in 1955 to get the facts of the tills story before the public most of all though let the people see is a vivid reminder of just how easy it is for people not to see things they'd rather not see. Maureen Corrigan teaches literature at Georgetown University she reviewed let the people see by Elliott j. Gorn tomorrow on fresh air we'll talk about how the Supreme Court became so politicized and have a court looks now with 2 trump appointees and a chief justice who's considered the most likely swing vote my guest will be David Kaplan author of the most dangerous branch he was the legal affairs editor at Newsweek I hope you'll join us. Our interviews and reviews are produced in edited by any salad. Lauren presell to recent mad. I'm Terry Gross. Support for n.p.r. 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World Service in London I'm Tim Franks the 1st funerals for the victims of the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre have taken place amid controversy over President Trump's plan to visit the city this president coming to Pittsburgh at this time is speaking out of both sides of this mouth trying to console us while probably yesterday or tomorrow saying something that will only inflame the situation we'll hear also from another Pittsburgh rabbi who says the president is welcome to number 2 in Brazil's new far right administration tells the b.b.c. The democracy will be preserved we will show them that we are. People we believe in democracy we believe in justice for all we respect the Constitution and German nurse has admitted killing 100 of his patients on the 1st tell you his trial more after the news. Alarm Marion Marshall with the b.b.c. News Denmark has demanded new e.u. Sanctions against Tehran after it said it had foiled an Iranian plot to carry out an assassination on its soil and a weekend citizen of the Iranian background has been arrested Mr Speaker has more details after the Danish intelligence service announced that it had uncovered an attempt to murder an Iranian Arab activist the reaction from Copenhagen has been swift the Iranian ambassador was summoned to the Foreign Ministry to be told in no uncertain terms that Denmark saw its actions as totally unacceptable a message that was further enforced by the prime minister last look at us and who described Iran's behavior as medieval Denmark has also taken the risk step of immediately recalling its ambassador from Tehran and its consulting allies about new sanctions but Iran says the accusations are a conspiracy by its opponents the 1st funerals are under way for the victims of Saturday's shooting at a synagogue in the u.s. City of Pittsburgh 11 worshippers were killed in what's the 2 have been the worst anti-Semitic attack in recent u.s. History security has been increased ahead of a visit in the next hour by President Trump John Sopel is in Pittsburgh in the wake of Saturday's synagogue massacre the president condemned anti semitism unequivocally and appealed for unity but his visit to Pittsburgh later today is not having that effect the mirror of Pittsburgh and several other elected officials are refusing to meet Donald Trump and a section of the Jewish community is also boycotting his trip to the city the leader of a group that speaks for a number of left wing Jews says she won't meet him until he probably didn't out says White Nationalism they see a link between Donald Trump's fiery rhetoric and the increasing incidence of hate crimes United Nations human rights chief. Is pressing Saudi Arabia to let independent foreign experts join investigation into the murder of the dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Urged the Saudi authorities to reveal the whereabouts of his body to enable crucial forensic examinations. The notorious former boss of a Boston based crime gang has been found dead in jail the f.b.i. Has begun an inquiry after the body of James Whitey Bulger was discovered at a maximum security prison in West Virginia u.s. Media reports say he was killed he is Nick Bryant but he told you it was one of America's most notorious criminals he'd been on the run for 16 years he was eventually captured in 2011 in Santa Monica California following a tip off from a neighbor ever since his conviction he was convicted of participating in 11 murders and a mobster activities that included gambling and gaming even Ira gun running at one point he was held in very high security facilities and what is interesting about the timing of his death is that it happened just a day after he was moved to this very high security facility in West Virginia you're listening to the latest world news from the b.b.c. Bangladesh and Myanmar have agreed to begin the repatriation of range of refugees in the middle of December November despite a warning from u.n. Officials that conditions are not right for their return 5000 refugees have been identified as the 1st return ease of 870-0000 range of Muslims fled a military operation which began last August in Myanmar most are in camps in Bangladesh but Dhaka says it doesn't have the resources to support them Nigerian security forces have fired tear gas to break up a demonstration in the capital Abuja by hundreds of Shia Muslims protesting at the detention of their leader Shakib or him he has been in government custody since 2015 after clashes between his supporters and the military he faces charges of inciting violence. A top South African criminal lawyer whose clients included gang leaders has been shot dead in Cape Town Pete me Halleck represented many high profile people including some of Cape Town's most notorious gangsters but he say they're searching for the suspect who drove away from the seeing more details from Andrew Harding in Johannesburg the gunman approached Pete metallics car as he was dropping his 2 children off at school in Cape Town the man fired through the window killing the lawyer and injuring his 8 year old son who's now being treated in hospital Mr Halleck was well known for defending clients allegedly linked to Cape Town's criminal underworld it's widely assumed that his death was linked to that perhaps to a gang turf war in the city and there are now warnings of revenge killings Israeli security forces have clashed with local people opposed to the holding of municipal elections in the town of marginal shams in the occupied Golan Heights it was the 1st time council polls had been organized in the region since Israel captured it from Syria in 1967 many members of the town's Arabic speaking Druze community still regard themselves as Syrians some marched to a polling station waving Syrian flags b.b.c. News. Hello and welcome to News Hour it's coming to you live from the b.b.c. World Service studios in central London I'm Tim Franks the top story this hour President Trump is arriving in Pittsburgh He's due to arrive in the next hour and there we are expecting him to meet the families of those who were killed at the Tree of Life Synagogue on Saturday but opinion is divided on whether the president's visit is appropriate and welcomed will be exploring that in a moment also also on the program a German says confessed to killing 100 of his patients why did he do it he actually said today that he did it because he wanted to be a hero he wanted to be very very good and everybody could see it. Or hear from someone who was in court today in 30 minutes. First though today in Pittsburgh the 1st funerals took place for the victims of Saturday's synagogue massacre one of the deadliest any Semitic attacks in u.s. History among those buried today the brothers sessile and David Rosenthal 11 people were gunned down as the Chabad morning services began at the Tree of Life Synagogue on Monday the alleged gunman Robert Bowers appeared in court and President Trump as I mentioned is due to arrive in the city shortly the B.B.C.'s Jane O'Brien is in the city where the commemorations continue to mount actually outside the synagogue the Tree of Life Synagogue where this terrible shooting happened on Saturday and as you can hear there are prayers underway right now because this is an active crime scene but it's also become a shrine and a place of pilgrimage for everybody in this community and I've seen Muslims Catholics members of other Jewish congregations residents nonbelievers like come here.